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Brings Idah on away at Huddersfield - Idah scores the winner! Brings Placheta on at home to Preston - Placheta scores the equaliser! Brings Vrancic on at home to Birmingham - Vrancic scores the winner! Brings Vrancic on at home to Wycombe - Vrancic scores the winner! Brings McLean on away to Brentford - McLeans scores the equaliser!

For a team not setting the world a light and some dodgy individual performances we are 5th in the league with only Reading setting the pace. If we can compete and get points from our close rivals away from home whilst playing badly and our two best players having a stinker i'll take that for now. Much better than playing well and losing. It is starting to feel as though the only way is up

Aren't you two more suited for a league one forum?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-hid-in-bedroom-to-avoid-brexit-questions-days-before-becoming-prime-minister/ar-BB1asyqC?ocid=msedgntp "Boris ‘hid in bedroom to avoid Brexit questions' days before becoming Prime Minister" Clearly there wasn't a sand-pit available for our "Churchillian" leader to bury his head in.

Here are a few of your posts about Rupp you posted in the summer: "Rupp, Drmic, Duda, all sh*t. That's the latest three." "I feel so blessed that our excellent scouting department found Lukas Rupp, what an absolute steal he was. We never properly replaced Shaun Carey and I never thought that day would come. Give them all a bonus!" "Think you are missing the point in the thread if you say Rupp to be honest, which is listing players others teams are likely to actually want to buy. It would cost us money to get rid of him." Really sounds like someone "suggesting he'd be a good player" and definitely not someone "who wanted to add him to the bomb squad".

This may also answer some points, and shows despite how many times you say it, it was Ifollow issue tonight, and not peoples hardware / internet.

For a manager who gets stick re. his substitutions, he's certainly had a pretty good old record this season.

⬆️ xP (expected post) 😉

That'll be another club established in the PL. Must be nearly 50 of them now....

Sweden is a fascinating example and I've read a huge amount on what they have done. As I think is acknowledged above, they have a population a fraction the size of ours in a country many times the size of ours. Their social demographic is massively different. They have a lot of single occupancy housing. Finally, unlike here, they have a population who has voluntarily adhered to advice, rather than rebelled against instruction. Look behind the stats and you see a high death rate, much higher than those of their neighbours who have taken a more stringent approach. They have often been accused of sacrificing their elderly. Japan are another interesting example. They conducted a campaign similar to Sweden in so far as they asked rather than mandated a response. They are now suffering a resurgence of the virus much like everyone else. But their society wore masks for fashion even prior to the virus are believed to have greatly benefitted from it. Hence why their death rate is not that bad, despite their population being rather critical of their government for not taking a firmer view. I suspect only when a vaccine has been created and distributed, will we have the chance to look back on this and decide X was effective, Y was not.

Old-fashioned No 9 who was a great header of a football - not so mobile but I always thought that he had exceptionally thick,strong thighs and when he did shoot it went like a rocket 😃

Any death is a bad death. And yes if it is a child that’s more heartbreaking, but back then if they would have caught Covid that would have been serious to, they didn’t know how to protect you then and we were all to scared. They have learnt as have the care homes. We had 2 family members die from Covid who went into a hospital without Covid and came out with it. That is highly unlikely to happen now and I think far more of us would not be as scared off from keeping to an appointment as we were in March. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and the most we can ask for is lessons are learnt. I really believe the NHS should be congratulated for solving these problems and this time keeping our hospitals open for all serious disease they can’t change their past and I am sure they were heartbroken at every death wether that was from Covid or anything else.

It may not be at the top of the list but I can assure you more and more pressure is building up on local T and T. I would advise people in Norfolk not to be complacent and take all the precautions they can.

Yeah but he'd probably be thinking of them having literal forked tongues in the David Icke sense....😂

He proved how good a manager he is in our title winning season - that wasn't done with a bankroll or a team of established performers and you don't win the league via luck... We're lucky to have him and I suspect some will only realise that once he's moved onto bigger and better things. The crown jewels were 6 not 5 strong.

Why don't you do everyone a favour and block yourself by deleting your horrible troll account?

Spot on👍

I can't help but feeling that the many on here who were extremely disappointed/irritated on deadline day about no left back coming in and McCallum being sent out on loan are being proved right. Surely McCallum, 'not ready yet' or not, would be first in line to replace Quintilla? Instead he's currently playing out of position himself at right wing-back for Coventry.

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Moving Rupp out of midfield would be a big mistake - it's him making us tick. Two wrongs don't make a right, so for me it has to be Mumba at RB and Max LB. A Skipp/McLean combo does not work for me.

"It is a fallacy to see protecting the NHS and protecting the economy as two separate things" - 100% correct, common sense tells you that, the economists are telling us that. They are two intertwined problems, and in the UK the major thing holding the the economic recovery back is not the current restrictions, though they clearly don't help, but the devasting impact on consumer confidence caused by the government's complete bungling of virtually all aspects of the crisis allied to its confusing, and often contradictory, messaging. As for £12billion on a dysfunctional track and trace - we definitely need a good track and trace system and we could have had one at a fraction of that cost but for the government's incompetence and their insistence on following their ideological obsessions rather use the professional expertise already in place.

Our team does it , its game management. Oppo team does it, its time wasting. Unwritten rule of footy 36b clause ii.

Blimey! I think we agree almost entirely. Happy days!

I just find it staggering the number of our fans who seem determined to find any opportunity to label us a "mid table side at best" or praise Brentford and slag us off despite the fact it was a pretty even game which i felt we shaded if anything. Away from home at a promotion rival and we had 56% possession to their 44% and 14 shots at goal to their 13. The big problem (as it has been all season) is that only 3 of those 14 were on target (and I would say with the positions we get into we could easily have had 20+ shots if we were more willing to pull the trigger). However, there won;t be many teams that go to Brentford and dominate the ball in the way we did at times. We are really not that far off and we have the quality of player in our squad to go on a serious run if we can just find our mojo up front in the weeks to come.

3 sublime free kicks into the box that we should have scored from. 1 chance at the end of a great move that would have been a fantastic goal. as assist for Mclean. yep. He’s rubbish and he throws his hands in the air too much 🙄 I think we need to address the complete lack of movement ahead of him when he gets the ball. I hate to say it but Pukkis ship has sailed.

Nah, it's much funnier watching people make these preconceptions and then looking like idiots within a few months. See Vrancic. See Rupp for a more recent one.

And we have Drmic waiting in the wings, he's getting better as each game goes past.......

Please don't be positive. This is the pinkun forum. If you're going to start a thread please do so to attack one of the players.

What has gotten in to everyone with Buendia seriously? On his day he is head and shoulders our best player - no doubt about it. In the first half tonight he was the focal point of our good attacking play, he won possession back really well a couple of times, his freekick deliveries were generally good too (apart from that terrible short kick attempt). There were also were some really frustrating elements too where he tried to overplay the ball or made the wrong decision. It was very much a mixed bag but overall was anyone in our team a more prominent attacking threat? No.. Unfortunately when you're a risk taking player you increase the chances of something going wrong and looking a bit stupid... and if we just saw non-stop brilliance we would've lost him in August. I'd be more worried about Cantwell's performance to be honest??

I think my last bottle was from Vietnam 🙃

Agree - it seemed very out of place. Assume she was talking generally, as Norwich doesn't exactly have a huge problem with street crime, nor the knife crime she referenced.

Hi Aggy You are giving out to many of those little hearts you will be running out soon lol ( don’t stop though the discussions are good and I think we are all understanding more of the different views ). Yes I didn’t know that about the Nightingales. Did you know also they are already staffed ? Although I think it is really great, this is exactly the sort of place the government are letting us down, by not explaining properly what’s happened. Just on here think how many disagreements this would have stopped, as our hospitals ( as we know them ) would be overrun or empty or not looking after cancer patients. This simple bit of information coupled with how the mainstream hospitals have adapted surely would have given people much more confidence there was a plan. Why do we have to find ou from small print hidden away. Here is the relevant paragraph for NHS Nightingale North West The hospital has up to 750 beds for patients. It will provide care for those who no longer need to be in a critical care environment. It will also link closely to community health and social care services, as well as the hospitals across the North West region. And the link for the actual job description that also tells us they are already staffed if they needed. https://www.nhsprofessionals.nhs.uk/en/Nightingale/Nightingale/NHS-Nightingale-Hospital--North-West Like I say I was shocked as well as I thought the Nightingales were as discussed, but clearly they are also for normal procedures as well as Covid.

Have you seen him chew gum though? Don't think I ever want to see a NCFC manager showing such manners. Stinks of an attitude problem IMO.

It seems that there are two broad perspectives. Firstly that we are not going to improve greatly and that that we are an example of the King's (Canary!) New Clothes. Secondly that it is all going to gel and promotion beckons. Both look valid at this stage although we are 5th.

Why are we worried? We bought Ben Gibson in as he can also play LB, so we’ll just move him to LB and use one of our other CBs....oh wait.

That seems a fair deal.

Surely they haven’t counted McLeans as on target 😂

Some really interesting comments on this thread. Perception is a funny thing. I thought we got a lucky point in the end and that Brentford were much more fluent than us - they then conceded the initiative by taking off Da Silva who was bossing the midfield and bringing on Canos, who was awful, so we were suddenly 10 yards further up the field when we went to 3 at the back and ultimately that brought the space and pressure for the equaliser. Fact is though that Raya didn't make a save - his effort at trying to reach Maclean's shot was like going down in instalments, he was so wrong footed. But of course Emi created and missed the best chance we had (again). These will eventually start to go in surely? We didn't compete in the middle (again) where Rupp was frequently on his own. Skipp may have started the season well but he's lost his way since and is now being almost completely bypassed. Maclean for him on Satrurday I suspect. And whilst we kept three of our "crown jewels" I'm not sure any of them actually qualify for that sobriquet anymore. Aarons is producing regular 6 out of 10 scores, which is all right; Buendia an occasional 7 and Cantwell hasn't got above a 5 yet. All three of them should by now be producing regular 8s in this league. The tactic of Krul kicking wide to the full backs to bypass the press isn't working so I hope that changes. The criticism by some of Sorensen is just ignorance. I thought he did OK. We missed Idah last night - his pace and directness would have been very useful; and I think we all saw that Vrancic isn't the answer when starting. Clearly we are still very much a work in progress, and Brentford on that showing are probably further along than we are. But I still think we are on the right track and the number of options available in the squad and the depth of the squad despite the numerous injuries will be telling. Other teams will get multiple injuries too because this season is relentless. Picking up points away from home will be the difference between top 2 and top 6.

My apologies!

If we started winning games before the 85th minute we might have a chance to try it ourselves 😉

Also agree with the hospital situation. Here in Leeds & Bradford Covid numbers are greater (at LGI and BRI) than last Spring but neither have stated they are overwhelmed. However they are very nervous (Both cities may be going into Tier 3 Friday). I was reading the following article and I've shared it because I've read little about this angle (particular nutrients) but have read about vitamin D. As ever, I retain an open (or sceptical) view (naturopathy source). https://www.primarydoctor.org/covid-19-is-a-lack-of-nutrients She also has articles on masks and how they can be unhelpful / ill-advised (must be carefully looked after, washed every day). The link is in the article if interested.

Funny how quiet this thread is when you think back to all the geniuses who were brilliant at making exactly the *right* substitutions - albeit once the game had finished of course 👏😂

I had the same 'plain black screen' issue for the Bournemouth game. After speaking to their customer support via live chat, they told me to try the app, and it worked fine on my phone, but by then I'd already missed 35 minutes of the game. They refused to give me a refund or credit me another game, and this wasn't the first I've had with them, so that's me done with iFollow.

Did you not see their tweet? Some customers affected. I discovered a couple of weeks ago that ifollow wasn't liking Chrome on my desktop for whatever reason, watched via Firefox since with no issues. Ps. I had to technical problems first game of the season which I'm still awaiting a customer services response regarding. It showed me 4 minutes of the game then a black screen.... ... Your hypothesis that this must be the internet download speed does not ring true, as the illegal stream I found of equal quality worked just fine, as have subsequent ifollow streams of other matches.

Which ever way you look at it, he was a bit of a bargain. The fact that it hasn't worked out is plausibly a separate issue. At the time we had a limited budget and were looking for a striker who had performed regularly in one of the top divisions in Europe. That's what we came up with. On paper, more pedigree than Pukki, in terms of playing at a higher level for longer. Not the be all and end all I admit but still. When you look at the comparisons, even now. £10million for Ivan Toney. Now he's looking good at this moment for this level. But that's the reality now. £10million for a League One player. So my comment back then, is still worthy given the circumstances. That is very different to suggesting a player we paid millions for is crap. Especially a young player only a handful of games into his Norwich career. And when the manager himself has said that he was brought in for his pace and goal threat but that whilst he was a real talent he still needs refining before he is the end product. Considering that, his start to his NCFC career has been good. The issue we have is the same as when we have Hernandez playing which is that we seem to be more used to Buendia and Cantwell who like to drift inside. Placheta is more of a natural bomb down the flank style winger and I think we struggle to find those passes to him at the moment. Plenty there though, he's put in a couple of good performances already. At 22, in his first season in the English league and only a handful of performances in, anything as harsh as what you are saying is just pure daft.

A quick look at the Brentford forum and the majority seem to think a draw was fair. Goes to show how OTT some of our fans are on our performances this season. I think it's because people aren't used to the whole watching-on-ifollow-with-no-fans thing - must be getting a completely different feel or something.

He is an excellent player who makes us look a much better side when he plays. If he scored goals he wouldn’t be with us. I genuinely don’t think this side is miles away from clicking.

Now there's a reference I wasn't expecting to see on the forum today. Bloody love that band.

I know you're right Lakey. But it's a tough watch. Super Mario's free kick and I'm like "yay we win" no real emotional investment. Just detached. Totally. If I'm in the stadium I've given 90 mins total support by the time that happens. Then it's special. We're all as one. Farke would have given it the biggun and supporters would have loved it. No way would Idah have got a red card with 27,000 in the stadium. They miss us too. Many more weeks of this and I'll be turning into a miserable critic on the match thread..... There's just no joy.