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Not sure without going back and looking but Boro's second would be a good contender off memory!

Sorry, didn't create a good chance. Or as the stats classify it, big chance

Yeah most of our goals conceded has been from poor midfield structure with over-committing OR from the LB inverting into midfield and the opposition exploiting that with quick switches. We've conceded 8 goals from set-pieces which don't get me wrong, is also terrible. But that's 8 out of 30.

We're the team that didn't create a chance (so on the right hand side) The home team is on the left!

Unfortunately with the opposition having created one big chance and us created none, and having a pretty legitimate goal ruled out, I'd say the strategy didn't really work and shouldn't be used longer term. No issue with being a more direct team, although the entire summer transfer and strategy was to do the opposite so no surprise we'd look pretty bad at it.

The flack is probably why managers don't tend to do it. Something about the Norwich way idfk.

Ultimately the next job is to make us look vaguely competent in midfield without Kenny because we lost the midfield battle from the first minute yesterday.

It's a concern if we can only do that by leaving ourselves catastrophically open at the back to the point we've conceded more than 2 of the bottom 3. After being soundly beaten by bl**dy QPR, it doesn't surprise me that we went this way. It surprises me by how much, especially in the first half when we looked like a League One side going to a Prem team away, despite having the likes of Sainz on the pitch. We deviated completely away from the "style" that, Thorup himself said, we would never deviate from and you'd know it was a Norwich side every time we played. Perhaps a bit of realism about this division which I said so at the time, but it was a nice soundbite that people lapped up at the time. I suppose I'd have been more understanding if it was against a Southampton as @TheGunnShow just pointed out, or even a Sundrland or Boro away. But it was a bottom 3 side that had scored 20 goals all season.

Yeah, with the caveat that if you go into a game with no intention to create anything then keeping a clean sheet is so much easier to the point that all the bottom 3 clubs have managed it at least once.

Agreed, this happens multiple times in a game although admittedly not every opposition player flops to the floor like the QPR kid. I think the fact every ex-pro who's commented so far doesn't think it's a sending off tends to give you an idea; if there's a debate it's normally split between the ex-pro lot. As I said before, Sainz has been caught in the face 3 or 4 times this season and no foul has been given. A couple of those you could certainly argue had more intent or certainly a more clumsy approach to.

As I said before, we had to stop leaking the goals. But note that we done the same thing under Wagner, and fans weren't happy about it - but it did materialise into a play-off position once confidence was rebuilt and injuries lessened. The completely fair argument is defending and not creating anything of note is easy, the bottom teams can do it. The next job is being able to be a creative influence too. A final note; Sainz clearly frustrated for a 3rd or 4th game in a row. I suspect signing a new contract is looking further away than it did a month ago.

It was a little tongue in cheek but I've never seen Nunez have a good game without Mclean, partially because Sorensen can't cover the ground

Kenny is what allows a Nunez to play, and Thorup has pseudo suggested the same thing.

Awful performance but on the flip side we couldn't keep conceding 2 goals a game so something had to change.

Literally no such thing at this level anymore.