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  1. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    Pretty ****ty.
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    Players - Take A Pay Cut

    That is definitely true. I'm working from home and my only expense right now is my food shop and maybe the occasional treat like a video game or movie rental to keep myself entertained. No petrol, no drinks out, no coffees, no lunch at work all adds up.
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    Players - Take A Pay Cut

    I think that is fair. The PR of furloughing employees so swiftly before the player wage issue was properly addressed isn't great. I'm skeptical about how much money we're actually saving through using this scheme and thus te necessity of it.
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    Players - Take A Pay Cut

    Clubs have sacked footballers in the past but it is very rare as you essentially lose out on a huge amount of potential revenue from selling them. Even then it is usually for gross misconduct.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    The argument isn't the players should pay the staff. The argument is how can a multimillion £ football club both afford to pay a number of people north of £20k a week and need the government to help them pay staff on £20k a year.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. You're right the government could have put in greater criteria/restrictions. However I'm reasonably sympathetic to them having to draw up a huge piece of legislation somewhat on the fly and they may not have considered every angle. I believe in situations like this it isn't too much to ask for organisations to make a moral decision on something like this. This crisis has highlighted a number of cases of shoddy corporate behaviour. While we're far from the most egregious, I am disappointed we're in the same boat.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    Well I've clearly made an impression on you to use one of your 6 posts on this I guess...
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    In the Webber article on the homepage, he suggests some of the players have already come forward about doing something which is good. It seems it is mostly going through the PFA though. I had a look earlier and the combined wage bill of Man U, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal is over £1,000,000,000. Just 10% of that would more than cover both the furloughed non-player salaries and help out lower league clubs in serious financial peril.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    I can only assume this Webber quote on a podcast came before the decision to furlough staff otherwise it looks terrible. “It is too early to ask a player to give up some of his salary when at the moment I couldn’t look him in the eye and say the reason we are doing this is because we will lose X,” said Webber, speaking on the latest edition of Guillem Balague’s Pure Football podcast. “Once we get to the point of understanding what the losses would be then it is for everyone to get together.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    You're of course correct about the criteria/rules, and from a purely selfish financial perspective for the club it saves money. For me it is much more of a moral question- in my view the scheme is there to help businesses who cannot afford to pay staff and will either be forced to lay people off or go bust. We don't fall under that as far as I'm aware. We're certainly not as egregious an example as Spurs (pre tax profit of over £80m yet getting Government money to pay staff) and I believe there is now some pressure on the PFA/LMA for players to take a voluntary pay cut which is where this money should be coming from IMO. We'll see what happens but fundamentally the optics of a business paying players north of £20k a week asking for a Government handout to pay their lower paid non football staff isn't great.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    I dont pay taxes for business who can afford to pay their staff to pass that onto the government.
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    NCFC to furlough staff

    The extra 20% is good but I'm extremely uncomfortable with any Premier League football clubs using this scheme.
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    Corbyn Speaks

    I lived in London under both of them- generally, I think most people were pretty happy with Khan. Johnson seemed to be largely associated with expensive vanity projects. Think Khan did the wrong thing with the tube services though.
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    President Trump

    Incredible
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    Corbyn Speaks

    I don't think there is much comparison between the Labour Party under Blair/Brown and this current incarnation.
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