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  2. Herman

    The Brexit Thread

    You still haven't figured out the difference between someone's opinion and fact. That is where Brexiters have always headed in the wrong direction.
  3. Why is Webber now the scapegoat? Are people just using this terrible situation to settle the score?
  4. Making Plans

    I Was There.

    Very strange indeed because the fog bound Chelsea game that I went to (20th Dec 1972) didn't get abandoned until the 85th minute. More info here -
  5. Today
  6. Taiwan Canary

    Corona Virus main thread

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/04/why-wear-a-mask-may-be-our-best-weapon-to-stop-coronavirus?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2KOMK9B4HHkXzME-CfRilwllyrTE1JA-rGT7kBcuatR2VTk4YjZjDoXi4#Echobox=1585992709
  7. Webber has asked a lot from fans since coming, wanted us to up the atmosphere and the fans responded with the Barclay End Project, raising thousands to self fund the incredible displays we now see in the Barclay. We got promoted and they screwed over season ticket holders and arguably casuals too by extorting them for Premier memberships. Had to have several meetings with fans to understand how they'd upset us. We forgive. They spend next to nothing in the summer and ok there have been some moans and groans but we've largely been accepting and willing to see what that translates to in the league below in terms of potentially coming back up stronger. It is a big thing to accept, continue throwing money at a club which is willing to take the money and go down. We accepted it nonetheless, despite two awful transfer windows (with the worst signing saved until the second one, hi Duda). Still we accept it and try and look at the bigger picture. But I'm not sure how with all the above considered the club, which is so obviously currently cash rich relative to previous years due to recent spending decisions, has decided to palm off 80 percent of the non-playing wage bill on.... Who? Yes, us, normal hardworking taxpayers. We'll pay it through austerity measures, we'll pay it through tax increases. How about the club pays it with the money it chose not to spend in the transfer window? How about the club pays it using proceeds from the premium membership scam? How about Stuart Webber contributing with a salary deduction? I'm annoyed at the players too, don't get me wrong, anybody want to calculate the percentage of £200k against our wage bill for playing staff? What is it, 0.5 percent perhaps? I'm not a red flag waving lefty, which incidently is exactly why I don't want this dumped on the national debt. It truly is a disgrace that a scheme intended to retain jobs that would otherwise be at genuine risk of redundancy is being used to furlough almost all non playing staff. Are the club trying to argue that if the scheme didn't exist they would operate a big football club with half a dozen people? Delia would be cutting the grass at Colney would she? It's just sunk in for me how morally unethical it is to go against the spirit of that scheme at a time of national crisis. The only acceptable argument from the club could be that they don't know how long this will last, but they couldn't cover one month? Two months? To see how this plays out? The players have raised a little bit of money among themselves but what has the club done beyond this? Have we offered Carrow Road to the NHS? What sacrifice is Stuart Webber personally making? It's got to the point where I'm not sure I'm all that interested in Webber and Kendall anymore. Couldn't give a frig about Webber's ability to spot a player or two (been a while anyway). Right now I'd take Tony Pulis hoofball if it came with an executive who didn't constantly take some of the most committed and fiercely loyal fans for granted. For all the cute social media videos when it really comes down to it we aren't a community club or a family club at all are we. We're just a captive audience of consumers ripe for looting, take away Farke and our club is another which has gone down the road of being another generic corporate entity emotionally detached from its customer base. It's a one way street now. Completing a signing just days after taking a taxpayer handout rubs salt in the wounds. Yes a football club needs to recruit for the future, but highly questionable timing. I'm now wondering whether Delia needs to intervene we actually need an experienced Chief Executive or Chairman sitting in the boardroom with Webber reverting to Technical Director, because the PR is terrible and the sense of corporate responsibility non-existant. Somebody who has been the CEO of a FTSE 250 company and fancies a retirement job, because we've come out of this looking very had. Morally and ethically wrong and damaging to our reputation. Demote Webber to head of football, get rid of his mate Ben. Experience lacking in the executive team.
  8. Surfer

    The Brexit Thread

    Fair enough.
  9. Fen Canary

    The Brexit Thread

    Apologies, I should have said an outlier to the EU rather than Europe as a whole. You’re correct that our history is intertwined with most countries on the continent, with constantly shifting enemies and alliances, but that has very little to do with wanting to Leave the latest political union. As you’ve pointed out it’s happened numerous times in the past and will likely happen numerous times in the future as countries adapt to their changing situations
  10. Fen Canary

    The Brexit Thread

    How is that fixed? Please tell me why it’s acceptable to want to Remain in the EU as it they believe it makes Britain a powerful world leader, but wrong if Leave voters wanted to be a strong voice independently? Ignoring of course I’ve never met a single Leave voter who wants to resurrect the Empire, or attempt to be a superpower again, many Remainers however seem overly worried about Britain being less able to influence others if we’re not part of the EU. Which one is dreaming of Empire?
  11. Rock The Boat

    Guess the movie

    Dirty harry
  12. Rock The Boat

    Guess the movie

    Cherry orchard
  13. Rock The Boat

    Guess the movie

    Jaws and bridge on the river kwai
  14. Yesterday
  15. Surfer

    The Brexit Thread

    No, it hasn't. For hundreds of years England was part of a continental Roman, Scandanavian, Norman French or Catholic "empire", and in the centuries since then, we've had to go back in and rebuild alliances every time we drifted too far away from it and a superpower was forming - Spain, France or Germany. I agree we have a tendency to want to ignore Europe, and we don't like large scale political integration, but this phase - Brexit - looks like yet another chapter of "in again, out again". p.s Waterloo. One of our most celebrate military victories, on the outskirts of Brussels, fought with our allies The Netherlands and Germany (Prussia) against the superstate France.
  16. Surfer

    The Brexit Thread

    Leave Voters : Empire. Remainers: world leadership. There, fixed it for you.
  17. Surfer

    The Brexit Thread

    Ah yes, there is that history thing. Russia was an absolute monarchy, then a Communist state and now a Fascist dictatorship in all but name. So no, it wouldn't have tried to help Labour, just like it didn't try and help H. Clinton At this time it's all about money laundering and they know which of the parties will help them do just that. So as I said, where is the Russia report?
  18. I'm a bit confused about all this though. If the players took a pay cut how exactly would that benefit the NHS or the taxpayer? So you mean the players, chief execs and managers at all clubs should take a pay cut to pay non-playing staff without taxpayer assistance? I agree with that, but got to be Webber/Delia who puts that proposal forward? We seemed to grab the taxpayer dosh very quickly, I doubt that suggestion was even put to the players. Footballers just taking a pay cut doesn't benefit the NHS or the taxpayer? No doubt the club wanted the players to take a pay cut AND to take the furlough money, but why should the players agree to this when club is still getting TV money, sponsorship, prize money probably, not refunding season tickets as far as we are aware. Only losing match day revenues which is chicken feed for us as we don't have many casual seats. Webber has brought the shame here. Footballers should have been pressured to contribute to salaries of non-playing staff, not to merely bolster summer transfer budgets.
  19. Fen Canary

    The Brexit Thread

    I’m not sure the Italians or the Greeks would agree with you there. Also what is it with Remain voters constantly going on about Britain’s influence and leadership? I thought it was Leave voters who harked back to the days of the Empire and the UK being a world leader?
  20. Surfer

    President Trump

    I was asked a while back where I though this was heading , and I said "voter suppression" And while there is a very strong thread of incompetence, and corruption with this administration the ultimate goal is re-election by any means. Today Wisconsin in being forced to vote in person despite the viral infection in that State and the Governor's "stay at home" order. As usual his projection is complete BS, his own "electoral fraud" commission disbanded last year as it could provide no concrete evidence of this. Vote suppression has been a central Republican "strategy" for years.
  21. Yellow Fever

    The Brexit Thread

    No again. Before the so called single currency (which for the record is not the EU) Europe was even more fragmented and weaker. Brexit has simply robbed the UK of influence and leadership.
  22. SwindonCanary

    The Brexit Thread

    I don't keep his company, it's just a clip from you-tube that tells the truth, it would be better if you concentrated on what was being said rather than who it was coming from.
  23. Bill

    MOT

    They always seem to be speaking into their radios when I leave the house....and for some reason the seem to think I am called Roger loads out and about today, Aldi having no baskets so you use your bag instead - good idea, they have screens .....which are great until you have to pack your stuff then it is back to face to face can see Easter being a proble with people out, but with a bit of common sense it can be the first letting out of steam ps from a certain angle that photo........
  24. Fen Canary

    The Brexit Thread

    I think the single currency and the economic argument it’s causing is doing more to divide the EU than Brexit ever will. The UK has always been an outlier in Europe, to most Brits the EU is seen in a simple transactional manner rather than the large scale integration project it’s looked at on the continent
  25. Bill

    MOT

    a little known facts now is that if the car fails the MOT then you are not supposed/allowed to drive it home and if you do, then continue you could and should be done for driving an unsafe vehicle moot point about how unsafe it is and whether a mile or less back home is a danger - but dodgy bodywork/brakes etc is irresponsible if you continue later
  26. Yellow Fever

    The Brexit Thread

    Of course not. Putin (and Trump) don't want a strong Europe. A weakened fragmented Europe is what Russia in particular has been working for for years. Brexit is a gift ! Pretty sure it was congrats and party time all round on the Brexit result in the Kremlin. UK kicked into the very long grass. Lost in time, lost in space..... and meaning.
  27. Fen Canary

    The Brexit Thread

    Historically Labour and the left has looked up to Russia more than the right, and Corbyn would be much more sympathetic to them over the US. Wouldn’t Russia have tried to help Labour win the election rather than the Tories?
  28. Pockthorpe

    MOT

    Yes 6 months extension on MOT’s . Also folks be aware that a lot of the parts companies are shut down . So if you put your car through the MOT and it fails , and you can’t get the bits to fix it , it’s a car with no legal MOT etc . So best just leave it for the time being .
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