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  2. Creative Midfielder

    The Brexit Thread

    I think there is probably something in that but unlike @VW I still see it as a major problem that for the last century we really only have two parties taking Buggins turn at government and an electoral system which pretty effectively locks any other political parties out of gaining any real purchase in Parliament. IMO this has always been a problem, but perhaps it was less of a problem 50 years ago when there was at least some elements of consensus between the parties and the general population. However since then the parties have become more polarised, and also we have been faced with several serious issues which cut across the traditional left\right divide - and this is where the two party system and FPTP elections have completely failed us. So now we have an very right wing authoritarian party facing off against a pretty old fashioned left wing party, fighting propaganda campaigns through the media and internet, scarely ever directly interacting with voters, or indeed serious journalists. I don't believe that either the Tory manifesto or the Labour represent what anything other than a pretty small minority of people actually want or believe in but we can be pretty sure that 70%-80% of voters will vote for one or other anyway and between them they'll win 95% of the seats. It is a total disgrace and quite shameful that we have allowed our democracy to descend to such a farce and the result will be another exceptionally low calibre Parliament. If we had a PR based system then between these two polarised and extreme standpoints there would a spectrum of smaller parties who would more closely represent what most voters actually believe in. No single party would gain a working majority and there would be a coalition which would much more closely represent what people had actually voted for than any of our previous governments (no government since the war has won more than 50% of the popular vote, maybe it was different in the 18th century when only the right people were allowed to vote!). The extremists on either side may win a few seats (and why not if people voted in sufficient numbers for them) but it's highly unlikely they would get anywhere near government - not perfect but a hell of a lot better than what we have now!
  3. Herman

    President Trump

    It already is.
  4. SwindonCanary

    The Brexit Thread

    Creative Midfielder Report post Posted 3 hours ago No to both - incompetent, lying, corrupt politicians have already ruined this country but that doesn't mean it can't get worse still as Boris is already demonstrating. I'm afraid you will be disappointed, as it's going to be one or the other.
  5. Rock The Boat

    The Brexit Thread

    On the contrary, the system is working very well indeed, although a bit slower than we would like. Most government's since the war, with a few notable exceptions, have been centrist governments and they've been put there by FPTP. Extreme parties are kept out of the system. FPTP encourages centrism and a Cameron government is very similar to a Blair government. Clegg could slide into power without too much upheaval. That's Centrism at work. But right now the country is going through a non-nomal period where the centre is unable to deliver what people want and it is - if not collapsing - then at least sagging. And it is voters who are driving the move away from the centre - not the politicians. If anything we have seen politicians trying to hang on to the centre with their party-hopping antics, but the voters aren't having any of it and are looking away from the centre for a solution to our current problems. This probably explains why the polls have voters drifting from LD to Labour. Voters realise a radical solution is necessary and that's what they look to be delivering. So the system isn't broken but like a big ship it takes time to change course. And voters are far more savvy than commentators give them credit for.
  6. Nuff Said

    What is it about horses?

    It's the completely straight face all the way through that I love. He's made a slightly odd analogy, but he's committed to it, he's going to give his horse a bit of a back story and an accent, even though he's doesn't actually like horses. Anyone else would have bailed out, but no, he's going to take it to the end. Class.
  7. keelansgrandad

    The Brexit Thread

    It seems to me that when times are tough then the divide between the parties widens but as things become easier then even the main two parties become more centrist. There is nothing for the extremes to pin their mantras on.
  8. keelansgrandad

    President Trump

    This is getting silly. After two weeks of testimony and clear evidence, it is significant that RTB is the only one left defending Trump. Don't tell him about Father Christmas, Tooth Fairy or Harvey.
  9. keelansgrandad

    What is it about horses?

    I'll tell you what it is about horses. It is about £50 a week. Mrs KG doesn't ride hers anymore but it doesn't stop new shoes (£70) evry 8 weeks. Vets insurance. Dentist. Hay and feed and £15 a week stable, which is cheap believe me.
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  11. lappinitup

    Binners

    They are the the biggest tw@ts though.
  12. Yellow Fever

    The Brexit Thread

    Boris is flexible on most things - much the same as with Trump. The truth, his politics, marriages, morals - are all subservient and dispensable to his ego and what's best for Boris. Always ends badly.
  13. Rock The Boat

    President Trump

    Make UK Great Again.!
  14. ricardo

    Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest

    I know BV is a troll but there is a certain amount of truth in his post. Yes, we can claim bad luck on the injury front but there can be no denying that central defence has been a constant weakness during our recent tenures in the Premier League.
  15. Hoola Han Solo

    President Trump

    It’s no surprise that a morally bankrupt p rick like Dock the Boat would get behind a morally bankrupt p rick like Trump.
  16. Rock The Boat

    President Trump

    Look at the video Herman. There was no QPQ. The whistleblower is in hiding. The testimony is based on hearsay. The process is a busted flush and has been from the beginning. Hunter Biden is a cocaine-snorting, philandering, crook who has gained his position through nepotism when his Dad was the crooked, child-molesting VP of the United States It's over for Hunter the Munter.
  17. Herman

    The Brexit Thread

    Just remember this time, right wingers vote on odd numbered days.
  18. king canary

    Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest

    Simon Charlton wasn't the problem by himself- but him and Fleming must have been one of the shortest central defensive pairings ever.
  19. Feedthewolf

    What is it about horses?

    I'm a Quins fan, and I love Joe Marler. He's certifiably insane.
  20. Van wink

    The Brexit Thread

    If it was scripted from CCHQ it would be even less coherent than it usually is.
  21. It's Character Forming

    Binners

    They're not even the biggest club in League 1 this season
  22. Feedthewolf

    Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest

    It's like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it? How surprising that he didn't deign to reply...
  23. Nuff Said

    Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest

    I know, I realise the irony... just done it again
  24. Nuff Said

    What is it about horses?

    I know, made me snort with laughter. And (spoiler alert) "I don't like horses" at the end.
  25. Ciao Parma! One of my very favourite posters in charge this week. I'd like to put forward the following offering, although proceed with caution as my recent form has been questionable to say the least. In the Austrian top flight, I'd like to back ASK Linz to win away to Swarovski Wattens. Swarovski are in the bottom half, with a very poor home record of 1-1-4-5-14. Linz's away form is perfect so far, with a record of 7-0-0-14-2, and they're hanging on the coattails of leaders RB Salzburg. Odds of 4/11 look enticing. For the match bet, I've found a tasty little number in the #YourOdds section of the Bill Hill website: Pukki to score, Alex Tettey and Lucas Digne to be carded: 45/1. Pukki's bound to break his duck sooner or later, and if Tettey plays he's the man most likely to get booked! In bocca al lupo a tutti... e forza canarini!
  26. hogesar

    The Brexit Thread

    I've probably said this before but South Park got it right when they said pretty much every election ends up being a vote for a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich.
  27. ricardo

    The Brexit Thread

    As long as I'm not clinically insane or a peer of the realm I am allowed to exercise my franchise
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