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  2. Canary Wundaboy

    I actually want us to sell a player

    Don’t look at me, this one’s an imposter.
  3. Well b back

    Forget how good some of our players are....

    What is it you have against Drmic. I speak to a number of players where I work and they are all very complimentary about him. You also seem to have something against Farke. I appreciate you wanted him out last year and stated we would be in league 1 if he wasn’t sacked, but most with that opinion last year have now swallowed their pride and held their hands up. Look at what he has done with his coaching to what is basically a squad of average players and kids. Please don’t start negativity against Farke as there are plenty of suitors that would happily take advantage.
  4. TCCANARY

    Son’s broken arm

    It's an elbow injury, probably piles.
  5. ......and Smith must score.

    Son’s broken arm

    Yes, I think we’re fatally holed below the water line regarding our League survival
  6. king canary

    New Labour Leader

    Interesting read KG. For me the Labour party's issue is in some ways mainly one of optics. Too many 'ordinary' people think Labour is obsessed with niche issues that make no difference to their lives rather than the core bread and butter issues. Labour is now seen as the party of upper-middle-class types, obsessed with who has the most privilege. From a foreign policy perspective, they are seen as the classic 'guilt-ridden liberals' who refuse to say anything good about the UK, not to mention the bizarre obsession with Israel/Palestine. These have always been issues but a combination of Corbyn and the membership he enabled have made those viewpoints much more valid. Someone like Starmer or Nandy can hopefully give at least the impression of a party with its finger on the pulse of issues people care about.
  7. BobLoz3

    Son’s broken arm

    He's talking about the cup...
  8. Feedthewolf

    Home grown players

    No, you don't, but it's a workable number to be going on with. It's unlikely to be more than one or two in either direction, so I just used it as an approximation.
  9. Kathy

    Son’s broken arm

    I read that as your son had broken his arm. I thought you were hankering after getting the plaster cast signed
  10. king canary

    Home grown players

    Think I'm right in saying you don't need to name a 25 man squad in the Championship?
  11. Well b back

    Son’s broken arm

    And Erikson gone, he always came in and changed the game against us. Don’t broken arms get sorted though in days this day and age to at least be able to play ? On a secondary note do the Koreans still turn up when he is not playing ? That may knock about 20000 off the gate lol.
  12. I don’t remember there being terrace season tickets but I think segregation of sorts happened in the late 60’s. There was a thin set in of railings in the Barclay and one where the Barclay joined the South Stand. Some really hairy moments before the infamous Man Utd game in ‘77 including West Ham in ‘75 and those League Cup games in the early ‘70s against Chelsea. Seems like another world now.
  13. Feedthewolf

    Home grown players

    That was actually happening towards the end of last season IIRC, and we need to avoid it happening again. The goalkeeping situation will be interesting - Krul is homegrown as he spent three years at Newcastle before the age of 21, but McGovern (formative years in Scotland) and Mair (signed from Aberdeen last summer) do not qualify as homegrown. Oxborough is out of contract in the summer and is playing in the sixth tier, so he can probably be counted out. Our homegrown players next season would be, as things stand: Krul, Aarons, Hanley, Raggett, McCallum, Godfrey, Lewis, Byram, Thompson, Cantwell, Idah, Morris - plus any youth teamers who make the step up (Famewo, Thomas, Martin, Adshead). That's 12 senior pros, and I'd expect at least two of Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey and Cantwell to be sold. As we have to name at least seven home-grown players in our squad, it increases the likelihood of the likes of Raggett, Thompson and Idah being part of the squad (although I doubt Morris will make the cut). A potential 25-man squad could look something like this, although obviously there will be ins and outs over the summer (homegrown players in bold): GK: Krul, McGovern, Mair [Oxborough gone] DF: Aarons, Lewis, Byram, Hanley, Godfrey, McCallum, Raggett, Klose, Zimmermann [Heise gone] MF: Thompson, Cantwell, Tettey, Trybull, Vrancic, McLean, Buendía, Stiepermann, Hernandez, Rupp [Leitner gone] FW: Pukki, Drmic, Idah [Morris gone] So there are 11 homegrown players there, but any of Aarons, Lewis, Godfrey, Cantwell or Krul that are sold will need to be replaced with other homegrown players - remember the rules state that we need to have seven homegrown players in every matchday squad of 18, not in our squad of 25, so if we were to replace any top homegrown players that we sell with youth team players, we would likely be significantly weakening the squad.
  14. keelansgrandad

    New Labour Leader

    The conundrum Labour faces is enormous. The party grew out of the Trade Union movement and without disparaging other Unions, it was the trades Unions that had the ability to read and write that provided many of the early thinkers. And as education enabled so many more, the powerful industrial Unions such as the Miners also gathered thinkers and messengers. And thus the Labour Party could unshackle itself from the Right Wing press and use its own intelligence to press for greater conditions and social preferences. It wasn't total all about money with many. It was the uplifting of the working classes in education, housing, travel etc. But of course they couldn't achieve power. And when they did even their first government was shrouded in controversy. It wasn't really until Blair that the Labour Party achieved the most decisive majority to govern for more than one parliament. And that after the Thatcher years had decimated the institutions that had formed the Party. My own Union, the NGA was initially called the Kamikaze Union. Not because it had the strength of Miners Union but it controlled membership of the newspapers. And nobody wants yesterday's papers so real power was in the hands of a few. But Wapping, and the apparent betrayal from within the Union movement, and technology has caged the tiger. And even Scargill betrayed his members and us following that life changing strike After Blair, who knows what John Smith could have achieved, the Party was in turmoil because of its apparent move to beyond the centre of politics and first up protection of the markets and Banks during the collapse. And the capture of the same ground that Blair had occupied by Cameron meant that there had to be an alternative or else he wouldn't be ousted. And by know, it was quite "fashionable" to pretend to be poor by much of the middle class and people sat round tables, drinking their Claret and not Brown Ale, decided that their consciences were pricking them as the world moved away from racism, homophobia and the Church. And we ended up with Momentum and Corbyn. But also the re-emergence of people like McCluskey whose agenda was not really industrial. After all, what industry did we have? And with December's mauling, obviously including Brexit, the party has been decimated and many life long members who I know have left the party, for instance locally in my area but activists like Michael Cashman. So who do we choose? Who is that spark, that realist who knows we have to work on the effects of Brexit, the realisation by many who turned on the Party at the election that they may have made a grave mistake and the need to bring every side of the debate together. Realistically, it isn't any of the three candidates that we have to choose from right now. But we have to make a start. We have to oppose stoutly and cleverly, the mistakes that this government has already, and will continue to make. Who has called out Boris for not visiting the floods yet? No-one. And he thinks he is fir proof. This was the opportunity to make a start. Missed already.
  15. BaltimoreBird

    Son’s broken arm

    Unfortunately it's also good news for West Ham, Bournemouth and others in the relegation fight.
  16. Are you calling him thick? Out of order.
  17. Alex Moss

    Son’s broken arm

    We’ll never have a better chance to knock them out - he’s their best player by miles, good news for us
  18. Well b back

    Home grown players

    Who knows. Did anyone say any of our recent crop of youngsters would get to where they are ?. When Aaron’s was thrown in against Ipswich people wondered, but he produced. Were the last 2 years one offs or will the next group be as good ?. Of course when they are introduced ala Cantwell we will be hearing how light weight they are not as good as x was. But of course we are lucky in having a head coach that does not listen to the fans he does what’s best to develop the players.
  19. Midlands Yellow

    I actually want us to sell a player

    So how many players do you think will leave if we are relegated ? A riddle and number in it is fine .
  20. Simply a lack of quality. That’s nothing to do with Farke. If you want a competitive team you need ownership with the financial capability of matching that ambition.
  21. ......and Smith must score.

    Son’s broken arm

    Much as I like Tottenham’s Son his broken arm has come at the right time for us. With both him and Kane sidelined for our 5th Round tie it can’t do our chances any harm Maybe this is our year...
  22. Well b back

    I actually want us to sell a player

    I really cannot hazard a guess. He is clearly sort after property. With the rest you see papers linking for instance Aaron’s to Spurs for x. With Cantwell it is the top 6 teams, and it’s not just papers, it’s the managers complimenting him, it’s pundits building him up every week and clearly he is devoted to becoming a top player. Every time you see him play there is something else about him. Does he have weaknesses still, yep, but he clearly works on things. I always thought defensively he was a bit of a luxury until BBC started throwing those stats in Saturday night and he made more tackles than anyone else. Maddison was good but a gamble, he hadn’t done it in the EPL, Cantwell not only has but like I mentioned you can actually see him getting better by the month. Add to that one huge thing. With no injuries he is likely to score 10 EPL goals this year in a team that is likely to be relegated and playing as a midfielder expected to drop into a defensive position as soon as we lose the ball. On the epl site you can do comparisons, have compared him to Maddison, you can change to the likes of Grealish https://www.premierleague.com/stats/player-comparison ( hope that link works ). Put that into context of where Cantwell was 12 months ago and that will tell you why he is such hot property. It also shows how Farke ball is all central and does not use wingers ( but attacking full backs ) and why using the likes of Hernandez in the EPL ( except for short bursts ) does not suit our game. Reckon those who think he is a liability and can’t defend will be astonished when you see the actual stats. I think as fans we tend to remember the worse ( Krul is still remembered for his start with us ) but Cantwell is clearly becoming stronger and stronger. Anyone who thinks he is not capable in the top clubs I would suggest you rewatch the game on Saturday. That turn in the first half if done by Messi would have been talked about for years. When he started running at players you could see the concern on their faces, even Van Dyck backed off. Of course this is a commentators curse and he will be rubbish on Sunday and everybody will be telling me I don’t know what I am talking about, but all his suitors will know exactly where he is, but more importantly where he is going. One last point that sort of shows where he is. When you see the MOD interviews they get the biggest stars in front of the cameras, your Vardys, Sterling’s etc. Anyone noticed how Cantwell is suddenly our regular interviewee. So back to the question, how much is he worth in the current market, probably £30million, but there is a factor that if you add in a bidding war that goes up. We don’t have to sell so that takes out the drop from the relegation, but it is no secret our players will always be sold if a bid that the club see is at its peak we sell. Grealish and Maddison are being talked about at £80 million and they have already arrived at the level of superstars, whereas Todd still has a little way to go so is worth far less than that. But of course what this really all proves is how good our coaches ( Farke included ) and our scouting system is. Only 2 seasons ago as fans we were saying ‘ when was the last time we produced a young player ‘ To produce a Maddison, followed by a Cantwell, plus all the others we also know about is some achievement. Is this just a one off couple of seasons where we got lucky or is this something that continues for years to come ? Is it even possibly something that falls apart when Webber leaves or have we even got that sorted ?. Who knows, but over the next few seasons I reckon FCR will remain packed to the rafters.
  23. I remember being in the barclay in the late 60s and a thin blue line segregated the fans. Not so thin when Tilly was there....
  24. kick it off

    Home grown players

    Another point to note here - I don't believe we'd lose all 4 of those mentioned above - Probably 2, maybe 3. So we're probably a bit better off than forecast above.
  25. nutty nigel

    I actually want us to sell a player

    Yes we're going to hell in a handcart. Just like when Lewis was the last one worth selling and we couldn't compete with the binners...
  26. kick it off

    Home grown players

    Sorry, missed that you'd mentioned Gilmour in your post - remembered you'd said the first 3 - apologies
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