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Well now we have the realms of fantasy, we’ve stuck to our guns, we’ve given it ago and we’ve found out we lack the quality, experience and money to compete at the top level. I have enjoyed it, losing will build experience to our players, we’ve built up a financial buffer for the future, we’ve signed some very exciting young players in our youth system, who might have not signed has they not seen our clubs progression with youth players. It was never going to be the Top 4 as so stupidly predicted by those who lived in Yellow n Green dreamland, it was always about giving our best. Farke is a fantastic coach, his system is superb, he attracts and gets the best out of our youngsters and I love watching the way we play football, it’ll be very exciting next year back in the championship. Give the guy the credit he deserves and enjoy him while he’s here, you’ll miss him when he goes.

I’m interested in these games because I’ve not given up on our lads, no way - I couldn’t disrespect them like that. Sure, we have every chance of being relegated, I’m not blind, but supporting Norwich is not a competition to me I.e to see who’s right or wrong on how our season pans out with ‘I told you so’s!’ (Unfortunately, some clearly see it that way). This may come as a surprise to some, but believe it or not, we’re not the only group of supporters that think our team are going to be relegated come May. Bournemouth, Burnley and Villa fans largely see no light at the end of the tunnel especially, and have also downed tools from what I’ve read and heard speaking to a few. And rightly so because they all have serious issues. So at the very least 1 set of us 4 groups of supporters will be jubilant come the end of the season, so someone will be ‘wrong’. It was no surprise to me that we looked a completely different team without our talisman Teemu yesterday. That is no disrespect to Adam as he tried, and credit to him because that was a very tough game for an 18 year old lad to start his league debut. But I’m sure Teemu will be back against Bournemouth next weekend, fresh, fit and raring to go, hopefully with Duda behind him, and we will be much improved on yesterday’s showing. I will watch Bournemouth and Villa’s game today with interest, sorry folks, but I’m not giving up on the lads yet.

Lakey stop being so precious . You lecture folk , starting your own threads where you can easily join in on myriad others . You cannot be surprised when you tell people how to think that you will get a reaction. I suspect you need this board more than it needs you . As a consequence you aren’t going anywhere.

It’s a shame that you feel that way, honestly. Last season was as good as anything I’ve ever enjoyed as a Norwich fan and in many ways better. I was proud that we were bucking the trend and that we had brought through youth players and that we were playing scintillating football and that we were polishing rough diamonds. It’s not been so enjoyable this season. Although the sense of pride I feel when I watch us play remains. In Emi Buendia we have as good a footballer as I have ever seen play for us and even if we fail to win another point all season, I’ll still savour the enjoyment he has given me with his talent. Lots of people bemoan the fact that we “haven’t given it a go” this season. Paraphrased, we didn’t spend much money. We didn’t have the money, of course which is what (yet again) sparks the envious glances to whichever club is flavour of the “nouveau riche League table” at the time. The same people though, would be as equally annoyed if we were bottom of the league having “had a go” and spent £50m. It’s disingenuous of them to suggest, as Richard Balls did on Twitter, that they’d be appeased if we’d “had a go”. That they’d be HAPPIER if we were £50m WORSE OFF because that would show some faux notion of ambition. 😴

Only 5% of the forum have seen this post 😉

That's a bold statement.

I cannot understand that the playoffs are always quoted as worth millions to the winning team who get promoted , we get promoted as champions and have no money . Can someone explain why this is so

How to say the same thing over and over again by LDC: thread 4,287

Teamed up with Teemu already...

Half a season to late

History repeating itself? That's Ncfc in a nutshell. In 48 years since we first got promoted (my first season of regularly watching) we have had 10 promotions and as at this moment, 9 relegations. 5 promotions and 5 relegations took place pre Delia ('71/72 to '94/95). 5 promotions and 4 relegations have taken place under her (with surely one more pending). Our average position over those 48 years has been 22nd (26th since the Premier League began)..or 6th in the Championship (a top 26 club haha). The amount of times we have bounced straight back after relegation has been amazing. Only an extended (boring) spell in the 90s and early 00's plus a less boring spells in the old Division 1 (both 6 games long) punctuated our ups and downs. It's been an exciting period on the whole to be a Norwich fan. Nothing boring in this tiny city in England (let's face it Norwich is). I've enjoyed my support. This current phase is certainly not boring but it is frustrating. You have to look over a long period of time. Football changes just like our hairline and its greying colour if you are lucky enough to keep it. Delia and MWJ are different to modern ownership models. It will change again. Life goes on. History repeats. We have had some good history in my humble view. And I hope we make lots more.

If Villa get relegated after spending almost 100 million then it could cost them their club. I agree that we could have spent more - particularly in defence - but I'm not going to be overly critical of SW's methods because he's done an excellent job so far and I have faith he can continue to develop the club both on and off the pitch. If we had Neil Doncaster at the helm then I wouldn't be quite so confident!

What can you say?

Can't see relegation coming from anyone other than these teams. If we can win against Bnmth, it gives us a bit of hope and drags them further into the bottom three. Villa look fairly off the pace so it could be down to the bottom three as it is now. But.....anyone can beat anyone in this league - including us - so this bottom three isn't set in stone. Lots of these clubs play each other over the next few weeks, so there are going to be twists and turns as the season enters it's tense stage. Our season starts next Saturday, free from expectation, free from pressure. Bring it on. Brighton 24 Burnley 24 West Ham 22 Watford 22 Aston Villa 21 Bournemouth 20 Norwich 14

For the umpteenth time - we made a loss of £38 million last season!! By all means we can have a debate about whether we should have spent more this season in an attempt to stay up, but all this 'cheer the bank balance' stuff is total and utter Bull shine!

Yes we got well beaten yesterday ,it is a learning curve for most of our squad. We will fight until it is impossible to avoid regulation. Then and only then should we think of next season.We as a club should be proud of our squad for giving it their best.

That's depressing as **** and explains why we're in this mess.

Wolves are established because they replaced Stoke who were established...

So long as Leeds still are.

There’s another who should be arrested for high treason. Off to the tower young man.

Try getting hard numbers on the EU which has never had its accounts properly audited. It is such a relief as a UK taxpayer to be out of this corrupt, parasitic pseudo-mafia establishment on 31st Feb 2020.

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/meet-the-men-transforming-norwich-city-s-dressing-rooms-1-6429287 I'm absolutely flabbergasted that the kit men have got away (Keith) Scott free from this shambles of a season. The players turn up at each venue and they've no idea whether they are home or away. They run out and look totally bewildered when they are met with a hostile crowd after believing that they were in the cosy home dressing room. Until we get back to the stark surroundings that the opposition present us with the players will never be able to concentrate. I'd go as far as putting up some alternative motivational posters such as "You're Sh!t", "Your owners a Socialist cook", "Your manager doesn't care about you, no-one crticises him" and "Only one of you is good enough".

I know, to be honest this is a very good Man U side too! Yet some on here expected us to turn them over! The truth is we are stabilising the club this season, it was clear at the start Webber and Farke we’re honest with the fans, the players deserve this year and if we’re not good enough it’s not through effort, it’s through lack of quality in depth and experience at this level. As I said to buy Amadou would have cost us 9 million and just how many of those criticising the lack of investment, would then be saying why didn’t we learn from RVW? 😂 Sometimes the club will never win!

Good on you! This is the first decent post I've read for a while on this forum. As opposed to they dont affect us diddly squat 👀

Farke doesn't have a Saudi prince behind him. Farke performed a miracle last season. He deserves a free hit at the big time.

...even the signings we have made were poor Fahrmann...an expensive sub Roberts ... less said the better Amadou ...unfortunate that he was forced to play centre half at the start...but has now been available to play in his apparant favoured position of holding midfielder for a couple of months....the fact that he's seemingly 3rd choice for that role behind Tettey and Trybull indicates a 'no thanks' and a return to sender in the summer Drmic.... came with a history of injury problems ...and has followed suit Byram...decent back up for both full back positions...will be important next season one way or another ...a hit rate of 1 in 5 when looking to bolster our squad us clearly not good enough

Totally agree with and been saying it all season. No one expected us to do a Villa nd spend £120m, and no-one expected us to repeat investment on the Naysmiths & Klose's of this world around £7-10m. But our scouting has been good and has proven that players like Hernendez, Zimmermann & Buendia are out there. So I can't believe that players couldn't have been bought for around £5m more or less that would have improved the squad. Byram is an excellent addition at £750k, but the summer signings have been extremely poor with his exception and we always needed to improve our defence

You're forgetting. Never in the history of economics or business has a company been sold that didnt want to be sold.

Haha fair enough just thought I'd make a thread other than moaning about the team/contracts/owners/manager/ anything to do with NCFC

You can only measure failure at the end of the project. We are WELL ahead of where we SHOULD be, after JUST 2.5 seasons of the Webberlution, and so, actually, we're over succeeding! No one thought we would be a Premier League team when we kicked off against Birmingham in August 2018 but we won the league - were we at THAT stage suddenly supposed to flush the project down the toilet by copying what we had done in previous promotions and risk relegation and financial jeopardy AGAIN??? The Webberlution deserves patience and can't be judged YET!

If you go back and look most were happy with our business in the summer.

You could do but it would win you the admiration of Piers Morgan. Some might think that too high a price to pay.

When you are promoted you can keep your players, but you have to change your approach OR you maintain your system but upgrade the players expected to perform within it. I think Norwich this season are proving that you cant keep both your existing philosophy and players and expect to survive. The Norwich system might be good enough to stay up with better players making it work. Or the current crop of players might be good enough to keep us up with a less idealstic and more battle-hardened/combative tactical approach. But I think we're proving that doing both (same players, same system) and trying to play like Barcelona with kids, rookies and Championship players ends in only one outcome

There are never any guarantees in football and anybody who thinks that getting out of the Championship is easy needs their head examined. However, if/when we go down what we can say is that we will be in a much better position at the beginning of the season to go up than we were last season. Yes, we may well lose some of our best players, but we will get good money for them. In addition we will have two more seasons of parachute money and presumably we'll still have a number of players in our squad who know all about The Championship and who have proved before that they're good enough to get out of it.

Because you might like him, but not alot....

Simply not the case - there are far more clubs that spend and fail rather than win things, Europe etc

Hope dies last...

Could not see the game anywhere except Bet365 so had a bet to save it. Had to make it a treble to increase the odds so they would accept my stake. Not sure what I will spend the winnings on, no begging letters please

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Eh? It’s obviously the combination of what we do AND what others do. If it wouldn’t matter what others do, we’d still be 7 points away from safety, not 8 or 9 or 10 after today.... btw we are down. We all know it.... just accept it and move on. No point wallowing in misery, we play good football, there are “new hero’s” coming through the ranks - like Idah - the PL may not be our home next season but Norwich always will be. OTBC

Acceptance of your reality was what made you think you'd never see us in the Prem again just 18 months ago...

Just seems strange that losing at Man U seems to have caused the biggest meltdown of the season Indy.

It's never too long until this absolute bollox starts to come out from the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

We failed because we decided not to add quality players to compliment the players we already had. We tried to do it on the cheap and it’s failed spectacularly.

But they do run an EPL club. Which, I guess, means that they’re not too poor to own one because they, erm, do? Well....most of it. I own a little bit of it too. So does Nutty. And Til1010. PinkUn Posters Out. 🤷‍♂️

Agree with all of that. It really is a case of what might of been. I fear the lack of a sensible level of investment will ultimately lead to the break up of this group and our style. If it then means a few seasons in the champs that naivety will really hurt the progress and model.

Can't she sell it then loan it back. That seems to be the standard response on here.

I wondered how long before go and support another club would be trotted out and the suggestion of the Scum.

We just lost 4-0 to Manchester United, not 6 or 8 and not to a small club.

As mentioned on another thread I went to see the film 1917 today and there is a gruesome scene where one of the main protagonists puts his hand in the stomach of a a rotten corpse. I feel the same as he did after clicking on this thread.