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  1. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    The Torygraph has gone full bore propaganda is the only fact anyone can point regarding Brexit.
  2. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    Very, very silly. And absolutely typical of the way the current US and UK "leadership" approaches "precedent" and the "rule of law" over the past 3 years. I do hope that they drag Boris into court on Monday, as this act is in direct contravention to what the government lawyers represented to the Supreme Court. That is REALLY bad news for those government lawyers, as they either deliberately misrepresented the government's intentions to the Court, for which they can lose their law licenses, or their client deliberately misrepresented their intention to those lawyers. In which case someone, or more than one, should be held in contempt of court and go to jail. This is not an Old Eatonian prank, this is the administration of the country at stake and unlike in the US, there is no Republican Party or republican appointee dominated Supreme Court here to sweep all this under the carpet. It's time to put an end to the constant lying, and fortunately the Courts have the power to do that, there is no Parliamentary privilege when you testify in court under oath; maybe the newspapers can be next for self-discipline or face the consequences. Free speech is one thing, but spewing propaganda and defying laws and the courts is another. --- Thankfully the EU are being grown ups and have accepted the photocopied letter as a formal request for an extension. I'm sure they will sit on that to see what happens in the UK next. ---- For the historical "law and order party" this is shameful behavior. I want to hear no more about honour, dignity, personal responsibility from them. Let Boris become the martyr that he seems to want to be. I'm sure that it will be fun being the PM from jail - Dominic will run things for him while he is away - though he'll probably ask to be held in the Tower of London for the publicity....
  3. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    Bluster meets reality; maybe jail was not an appetizing thought; or his personal interests are all that matters. " Boris Johnson has confirmed in a phone call with the European council president Donald Tusk that he is sending a letter requesting a further Brexit delay beyond 31 October. " I wonder if Cummings has another "cunning plan", like to send the above letter on November 1st?
  4. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    He may find himself in jail if he doesn't too... will be tough to have any political future after that
  5. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    “...I will not negotiate a delay to Brexit. And nor does the law force me to do so” He's right in one regard, the law says he needs to ask the EU for an extension. So once he gets past his hissy fit, what does he propose to do instead? So Downing Street (Cummings?) are apparently floating the trial ballon the PM will send the mandated extension letter but somehow say this is from Parliament and not the Government so please ignore it... back to the Courts for another smackdown?
  6. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    Fair point, and that's why we have a bulletin board to express our opinions, long may that option continue .....
  7. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    The EU will extend. Brexit is heading towards a confirming referendum as its the only way to get a binary in/out decision. Nobody trusts the Tories to create a deal that helps anyone but themselves. You may say that is politics, and I would not disagree, but there it is, when you can;t trust the word of Ministers then you make sure every "I" it dotted, and every "t" is crossed via legislation.... " Letwin wins, Johnson loses, by 322 to 306. Johnson must now request three month Brexit delay"
  8. Surfer

    President Trump

    It may turn out that he does, and it may be the root problem of why he's doing a lot of what he is doing. It's why Congress wants to see his tax returns, but he continues to fight that in the courts.
  9. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    Here fixed it for you.... "should be" is not that same as "will be" and "future" does not mean "now"
  10. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    What's this? from the Telegraph: " ... it has emerged two ministers are on "resignation watch" over Boris Johnson's EU agreement. "
  11. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    If so If 21 Ex Tories and 9 Labour and 2 ex Labour who voted for May's agreement vote for him that is 32.  So he still needs 2, or 1 plus an abstention. .... it will be close but then so was the referendum result.
  12. Surfer

    President Trump

    Meanwhile: the political cancer is metastasizing; We have the impeachment inquiry based the Ukraine "withhold military aid for political dirt" scandal. We have new scandal brewing that affects money laundering of Iranian funds through a Turkish bank where the allegation is the President leaned on the Department of Justice to drop the US case into that bank. That may tie into the capitulation to Turkish demands in northern Syria that is causing Kurdish deaths Plus we have the selection of the President's own Doral Resort as the location for the next G7 meeting. The economy is doing O.K, but it was also doing O.K before DT became President.
  13. Surfer

    President Trump

    I'll give you credit for being consistent on that position across US and UK politics. As for the "facts" quoted, I'll not bother to correct it as like many a Trump supporter I don't think you actually care what is true ...
  14. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    Conservative 288 w/o any DUP = 288 Total 650, less 7 Sin Fien and 1 Speaker = 642 642 - 288 = 354 288 - 354 = Government "majority" of negative 66 Where does he get 34 more votes, or 33 plus an abstention from, there are only 21 ex-Tories ... If 21 Ex Tories and the 5 Labour and 2 ex Labour who voted for May's agreement vote for him that is 28. So he still needs 6, or 5 plus an abstention. .... maybe he will need the DUP after all... what will he offer?
  15. Surfer

    The Brexit Party

    What Bill said was " he needs about 30 " looks like for all your nitpicking he was right about that.
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