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I like this board, you have interesting stuff to say and often mention Brentford. I live in Leeds so am interested in them too.

Seriously though, it's impossible to squeeze the best into six picks. Found myself agreeing with several of the posters here and can't come up with a list of my own better than any of them. We really have been privileged to see some fine footballers down the years and recent lists are at least the equal of those of old stagers'. It's pretty grim right now but looking back reminds that we always have another cycle of talent to look forward to. I just love our club no matter what. OTBC

Yet not one of their players would be a certain starter for us. Honestly, our (underperforming) team would walk League One. Ipswich aren't even up yet and have spent most of the season in third. They certainly have a good chance of going up but it's not a done deal, and if they do go up, expect them to struggle next year as most promoted teams do. If they weren't our local rivals and we were talking about Plymouth (who have spent most of the season above them and taken four points from them) would you be concerned? No chance. There wouldn't be a single thread about the threat of Plymouth next year, like there wasn't about Rotherham last year. Not one.

What with Leeds coming down and the binners coming up that looks like the automatic promotion places are already taken then...😁 Apples

Yes, if so Zoe agreed with Delia that it was not necessary to fill the role that would have been the key check and balance on both her and her husband!? They have done a real number on our owners in my view. Raking it in with little supervision whilst not doing a great job.

You're calling other people 'attention seekers'. How lovely.

X6 OTBC

Saw tigers yesterday. Their stomachs can hold 50kg of meat at at time! That sounds like the best barbeque ever!

Goss spent most of his time in the Reserves as it was then as a headless chicken. Scored those volleys I know but lived off them ever since.

Do you think they would notice if we sent them Marquinhos instead?

He's taken 3 points off the Binners with his two goals against them. Legend already.

I'd just ban them from ever using oil or an oil based product for the rest of their lives and see how they get on.

And that way lies authoritarianism or terrorism if you can get your way or persuade people peacefully.

Turns out getting a fit, reliable DM like Olly Skipp works, who’d have thought it?!

I always think the suffragettes Herman is a bad example. They had no democratic other way (no vote) in order to make changes. And that is the cusp of the protest argument for me. By all means have marches, meetings and demonstrate but you need to change peoples minds democratically. The actions of the protestor at the snooker did none of that neither do those that glue themselves to roads. In reality they are acting above and outside the democratic model - it's our way or no way at all it seems.

From what I can gather from mates that support them is that they’re generally not happy that their God worshipped manager got sacked with a c rap replacement and their sporting director’s buys have been terrible. Sound familiar?

God, imagine having to hear Keith Stroud kiss the ball as well as see it.

It’s pretty simple . DO NOT play Lungi at CB DO NOT play Pukki and Sergeant. DO play Lungi as DM along Sara DO push Gibbs further forward. Put Byram or Warner at CB. We will win if we do this but I suspect we will keep the same line up which would be a disaster !

Gibbs scores a goal when he breaks from midfield. Now he's a No. 10?

Well if the decision to ditch Ramsey was influenced by the availability of Marquinhos then it really was a poor one.

This has been an issue for a while, certainly since Ed Balls left, and, subsequently, Ben Kensell. The whole point of non-executive directors is to ensure that the executive directors aren’t, effectively, “marking their own homework!”

That was wholeheartedly the view on Bailey's podcast as well! 🙂

We are where we are at the moment because MF actually wanted to do so, rather than as a result of D&M seeking external investment, and one of his primary objectives was to make sure that his sale came with a commitment to additional investment in the club. I have no reason to believe that MF’s motivation was anything but genuine and, if anything, perhaps also driven by the overall state of the club’s finances, despite record revenues following the most recent season in the Premier League. The words Deja Vu, Webber, wall, and urinating, spring to mind..

I don't think you get what protesting is about. We still live in a free country, just.

Before half time

Kevin Keelan. Barry Butler. Grant Holt. Dave Watson. Darren Huckerby. Emi Buendia.

Hopefully Luton as other have said. None of the established elite or Sky will want them there because of thei size, reputation and playing style plus it would be funny to see a manager that Watford sacked earlier on in the season get promoted with a smaller club. Their rise from non league to the PL without a rich owner would be an actual fairytale story unlike the Bournemouth myth and it'll be interesting to watch a different team compete, especially one who's playing style is likely to unsettle a few up there. Don't think they'd stay up but I think they'd beat our last points total. They can defend and get the ball forward quickly and they're good in the air so I don't think they'd be embarrassed.

Obviously in the role that Kenny was playing there will always be a trade off between what he can do on and off the ball. Just looking at the tackles + interception numbers for the players in that DM position. Sorensen: 4.18 p90 Hayden: 3.97 p90 Gibbs: 2.75 p90 McLean: 2.65 p90 Obviously it's not a perfect comparison as Kenny has the largest sample size, Sorensen and Hayden both have very small ones while Gibbs has a larger one but still half the 90s played by Kenny. Also of course Sorensen and Gibbs have spent time playing in other positions this year too. Kenny might be more disciplined than under Wagner, and he may be more so than Gibbs, but I do think he has that tendency to jump out of the midfield line often too. He's certainly not a screening player that's for sure. As I mentioned though, there's always a trade off in that role and when you look at the progressive passes stat it reads in near enough reverse order. McLean: 6.56 p90 Gibbs: 5.29 p90 Sorensen: 2.97 p90 Hayden: 2.31 p90 The big positive out of these numbers is Gibbs imo. For a guy in his first season, he's probably the last player you'd expect to be the jack of all trades. The fact he can do both sides decently well is a bonus early on, and if he grows both tactically and physically at a steady rate over the next few years you could have an excellent player there. The key now is getting him plenty of minutes on the pitch, due to the injuries we suffered early on in the year he skipped the loan move like most of our academy players get. He more than met the challenges he faced this year so sending him out to a weaker side in an attempt to guarantee minutes seems counterproductive to me. Ultimately though, between now and the end of the year if we want to do well this is the best solution.

Jools. Hook's Walk Canary. As you will notice, they are two completely different people.

Nice one Hoggy. 👍 now thats what I call positivity. Imagine imagine if that's the way it is after the games. 💯 % positive threads surely , or is that asking for too much.

This couple are neither, innovative or forward-thinking, in my opinion. For me bonnie and clyde need to move on, so the club can genuinely go forward with a positive outlook. I have no idea what these people bring to the party. I feel very strongly about the negative feelings that appear in my opinion around the club. It's time for new blood with non egotistical motives. This is Norwich City, not Webbers United.

This is Non-Football

Return to sender .

I think Liam Gibbs might be in with a shout... Oh...

Brilliant stuff YF. My post was sincere and genuine in the first part then had some daft sarcasm in the middle part but I had also thought about the mercury and it was a small joke (to myself). I'm impressed I have to say 🙂 Edit. The final bit about good in having J back was also genuine too. The "terribly" was a sardonic afterthought.

I wonder what the correlation is between mercury (found in fish (our fishermen) and yes the 'mad' hatters ) and Brexit? Sounds plausible to me.

Come on Howard Webb, this would be a game changer.

Irrespective of the comfortable City victory there would no doubt be many threads started on why it was completely unacceptable on a multitude of levels. 😅 Apples

The results are now becoming transparent in that throwing away a strategic advantage leads to being below Luton, Millwall, Preston and Coventry amongst others in the League Table. According to Tom Smith 'It's Not Unusual' or was that Tom Jones?

Yes, Byram is an option. Hayden is even an option. Don't know how close they are to 90 minutes but with both out of contract we might as well play them till the end of the season - if they get injured again, in a very ruthless world, it's not really our problem.

Scoring that hatrick, did him no favours at all for his long term development. It stopped a potential loan where he could bed in properly at a level that he could grow in and set expectations a bit too high. He still needs a loan away but again due to circumstances I can see him being one of the three here again next season and not really progressing.

You OK hun ?

I'm of a late eighties supporting vintage so the likes of Peters, Keelan, Gavin, Forbes & Stringer (as a player) are beyond my ken. So I'll go for, in no particular order: B. Gunn, Crook, Wes, Grant Holt, Huckerby, Tettey I'd like to squeeze Jeremy Goss in there too somehow for those magic memories - supporters of all clubs from that era remember his goals. Can we have 7 banners please?

Forbes, Stringer, Watson, Drury, Sutton, Holt

The commentator said "I don't know what he's protesting about". You'd think the slogan on the T shirt ought to have been a clue.

Understood and agreed @Graham Paddons Beard…forgive my lack of clarity. The purchase of shares is an essentially private transaction between Delia-Michael and Attanasio. The ‘distressed asset’ I refer to is Delia’s ability to suitably fund and bankroll a top level football club. Delia and Michael oversee the ‘self-sustaining’ model that de-facto decrees that no directorial or shareholder funds are required to be invested. This is unusual in top level football. I don’t think it is unreasonable to categorise it as a necessity rather than (or as much as) a choice. There is now sporting distress in that - under current financial parameters - the business is demonstrably uncompetitive at the top level. In terms of negotiations between the parties over the purchase of shares, there will be little doubt that sporting competitiveness (ergo Finance) will be a major draw. Attanasio was not a Norwich fan after all. I do not believe that Delia and Michael would be handing over effective control of Norwich City Football Club - via eventual sale and-or dilution of their majority shareholding - to Mark Attanasio, were it not for this ‘financial (and sporting) distress’. Parma

Its no good asking the faithful to say well done to them.

Close enough. Though of course we are in any case sportingly inferior to Middlesbrough by some distance - certainly to the neutral. To be quite as weak as we are now - sportingly, mentally, tactically - is quite an ‘achievement’ from the peak of promotion in ‘21 with Buendia-Skipp, plus £60m laid out. Forget about Boro, Brentford, Brighton or Blackburn comparisons, positive or negative outlooks, play-off chances or no play off chances, style of play to no style of play, winning mentality to a weaker fragile one, to have as ineffectual a set of players as we have now - from such a high point and so much money gained, with many of our contextually major investments far distant from use or capital return- is horrible mis-management. The right question is not ‘why aren’t we someone else?’ .. …The right questions to ask, that every employee of Norwich City should - and must - be asking themselves, is ‘why aren’t we what we were in ‘21?…how have we been so active, received so much, spent so much, traded so much, to get so much worse in every sense than what we ourselves had already built? Comparing ourselves to ourselves is not only valid, it is necessary, essential and demands an empirical self-reflective answer in order for the club to progress from here. Parma