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BigFish last won the day on December 10 2018

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  1. BigFish

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    Sounds like the retreat of the ERG is turning into a full scale rout. Possible MV3 on Friday. Unless the DUP hold out it could be done and dusted before Parliament finishes with the Indicative Votes. Interesting few days coming up
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    Yes, he will allow it. Opinion now seems that he was heading off the possibility of MV4, MV5, MV6 etc rather than MV3. Last night probably means she has one more chance before it is lost completely to the indicative votes process, particularly if the ERG haul up the white flag. Bercow wouldn't want to be responsible for us crashing out on April 12 and it being seen to be his fault.
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    Seems like the idea of Indicative votes has finally broken the will of both May & the ERG. JRM hinting that he will support May's deal (although after all the Brexiteers have said it is difficult to see what credibility they maintain if they suddently pivot now) & May down to speak at 1922 committee tomorrow (with the expectation that she will name her departure date - wouldn't be a surprise if it was May 22 on the condition her deal will pass. Question is though, have they left it too late?
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    European Elections will be fun
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    Are you sure they weren't really Russian bots?
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    So the government has tabled the SI that kills off the 29th March as Brexit Day. But strangely say at the same time that this is only to clarify legal confusion as the date was already obsolete under international Law. So at least we no longer have to listen to all that nonsense about "the default position is we leave on the 29th"
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    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/21/honda-european-chief-outlined-no-deal-brexit-concerns-in-2018
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    Getting some @paul moy treats today. It appears that the EU were corrupt in agreeing a FTA with Japan. In addition it seems that FTAs that Paul Moy and the Brexiteers are so deparate for actually sucks manufacturing jobs out of the UK/EU. So much idiocy in just three lines, genius.
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    As your local paper reported @SwindonCanary the tooling to enable the build of electric cars was on the ship heading towards Swindon when Honda called it back. Hardly suggests, as @PurpleCanary suggests that the decision was driven by a long heralded FTA.
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    It is almost boring to keep quoting David Davis but I will: "If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy". So yes we can disagree, but also we can stop the decision being implemented if we follow democratic means, the law and respect for alternative positions. Now that is how democracy works. It is not a winner takes all, forever situation - democracy needs to reflect not only the view of 50% + 1 of the electorate but also the views of the minority. Democracy can also change its mind, and if a decision takes time to enact it can change its mind before that decision is implemented. There is a clear and visible groundswell of opinion against "No Deal", in favour of a second referendum and even against leaving at all. In comparison Farage's embarassing Leave Means Leave hike seems underwhelmingly attended, even by the public educated pompous fool himself. Demographics alone mean that even if no one changes their mind the majority for Leave has melted away. The Leavers have had their chance to build a compelling case for Leave and have failed. To point this out is not "undemocratic", but it fact the opposite. If Brexiteers cannot make their argument and persuade the electorate anymore they have only themselves to blame if the referendum decision is overturned.
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    From the expert who said Honda would stay in Swindon
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    That is the joy of a democracy @ricardo my friend, more mistakes get made but it is far, far easier/faster to fix them
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    Yes @paul moy - how you going to the Muslims out?
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    Thing is @Rock the Boat us Remainers haven't been defeated. Sure you Brexiteers won the referendum, but that was a battle, it wasn't the war. As there was no Brexit strategy, no Brexit plan and no idea what do next it has been one failure, one defeat after another for Brexit. UKIP imploded, Farage went off to be radio show host & the Tory Brexiteers failed to win the leadership. This drip drip drip of Brexiteer failure has brought us to where we are today. Face it mate, you failed.
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