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Can you guys just grind your axes via DM or something? It is tiresome watching the same lot of you derail thread after thread with personal arguments.

I love the concept of a Mathias Normann thread becoming "Too Real". We know how to live on the edge in this forum, no wonder the rest of the internet keep away. 🙂

In many ways, he was ahead of his time. He was rubbish, got injured and hardly played. Set the template for loan signings for years to come.

After much consideration I have my selections.... BTTS £2 treble Peterborough v Derby Charlton v Wycombe Portsmouth v Port Vale BTTS £2 treble Stenhousemuir v Forfar Torquay v Dagenham Dresden v Bayreuth BTTS £2 Scotland v Cyprus BTTS £1 7 fold Charlton v Wycombe Portsmouth v Port Vale Stenhousemuir v Forfar derby v Peterborough Torquay v Dagenham Scotland Cyprus Dresden v Bayreuth BTTS £3 double Charlton v Wycombe Peterborough v Derby All the best to everybody this week and I wish you all a pleasant weekend.

Wish we were Wigan. Or I used to. I wish we were Brentford now. One day beggars will ride...

The bit where you said BILLY GILMOUR would walk into the England squad would be a pretty good place to start.

He was back this morning. Some of those ruffled feathers of his youth now look neater. He took off at such great speed. No wonder prey stands little chance. Photo from bedroom window so not too sharp but you can see some yellow feet this time.

Think you could be on to something here. All that praise from well know English media figures David Alaba and Pep Guardiola. Or that well known machine of pro English bias Whoscored whose numbers have him ranked as their best player in the Bundesliga thus far this season. Or...maybe...and I'm sure it won't be this but...could it be that your very well hidden and not at all obvious biases against English players could be showing. Surely not.

The trouble with these parody accounts is that they always go too far in the end and break their cover.

That aged well

**** me. You couldn't make it up.

That's the way I see it too. We are not going to suddenly rejoin. Could be at least 5 years if we do. A huge amount of diplomacy and bridge building would be required - bridges been blown up by Johnson. Sunak has to be praised for attempting to build some trust since. And a soft Brexit would have been so much more welcomed. The vote was what it was. Of course we want closer alignment and to cooperate with our nearest European partners. We want to collaborate on Horizon, on security and so on. We want to go abroad and not be feel embarrassed. We want good relationships. The Brexit situation has been a national political and economic disaster. That's how history will be written. We don't even need hindsight.

Because none of them have anything to do with the EU and are internal problems of individual sovereign states.

No ban here!

It was so funny watching it. Then the audience were asked who thinks after this Boris could make a comeback. 1 person put their hand up, but when asked his reasons, he basically said because he’s a worm and gets around everything. The guy also who told the Tory MP, if you can’t answer the question, just keep your gob shut. You must also remember this audience were made up of a sizeable number, that voted Tory for the first time in the last election. Several who spoke said they didn’t vote Tory to get the Tories in but voted that way to keep Corbin out.

Thanks mum

I believe it suits governments to have their voters reliant on them. Maggie twigged this and millions became Tories overnight when she sold off the council houses and put people on benefits. Some food, like alcohol, would be banned or restricted if it was invented or created nowadays. The refusal to try or even comply is just nonsense. We overcame CFCs, for instance. Perhaps we should start burning down Town Halls like the French to get a response.

It's lovely when stupid people get told they are stupid. Today, John Redwood.

Henry Dimbleby has had his say on the matter. Very interesting. I heard a fascinating interview with him on Radio 5 in the week. The nation has been concentrating on other matters recently and what he's had to say has been largely overlooked. https://news.sky.com/story/government-food-tsar-quits-blaming-insane-inaction-to-tackle-obesity-12838255

Gilmour cost us one of two Premier League loan spots...which was completely wasted and could have been used elsewhere

Johnny Winter live in 1984: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGEUFq7jYGI&ab_channel=kajiyahn

Peter Green - "Oh Well" Mark Knopfler - "Sultans of Swing" Keith Richard - 'Gimme Shelter' Listening to "Gimme Shelter" again last night, I was amazed at how relevant the lyrics are to 2023, perhaps even more than when they wrote it in 1969 in response to hell on earth in Vietnam - "War, children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away". It also contains references to climate change, eg. "Ooh, a storm is threatening/My very life today". Richard's guitar work is as dark as it gets. An anthem for now. Superb. And btw it's on the Stones' "Let It Bleed" album with Delia's cake on the cover!

Don’t necessarily need to travel far for a good old-school day out and the lower down the pyramid you go is often the better. As long as there’s the basics – food, drink a clubhouse with a tv in case the weather or football outside is truly awful – all’s good. A few quid extra revenue makes a massive difference to the clubs too. And afterwards you can often mix with players and officials of both sides. Sometimes the referees are good too 🙂 I'm off to a Level 10 relegation clash and it could get tasty.

If this was France there'd be bonfires on Carrow Road at the very least...

The point is that the two 'extremist 'positions don't equate. We have yes a few Remain extremists - not in power - and generally arguing for democratic re-run against a skip load of Brexit extremists - willing to rip up international treaties but in power and until Sunak unable to 'compromise'. Even he still has no extant solution to the DUP and NI but then none of Brexiteers ever did. How many rejected Sunak's bill just this week ? Most of the Remain persuasion simply wanted a softer, workable form of Brexit. Anyway - sooner broken sooner fixed.

Mike Graham, a man so ugly that the midwife is still slapping his mother.

Whereas idiots like Mike Graham tell us Sunak is closing the gap. I suppose from 30% under Boris and Truss, to get it to 15 % is losing a tenner but finding a euro.

Wheels back on?!!😂😉

Wroxham reserves v Aylsham in the combination for me tomorrow

I remember when it was Charlton.

I made a full-length in-universe parody episode of the The Scrimmage, or “The Scrummage” with Daniel Farke aka Danny Farkey participating in a LIVE Canary Call Q and A.

Funny thing is - at least personally, I don't think Italy's anthem is as good as some others. But the British one has to be one of the very worst in Europe, having listened to most of them. Heck, I even prefer Liechtenstein's anthem, and that's the same bloody tune! Poland and Romania, ideally at a bit of pace, before anyone asks.

This is what people fail to understand. In 1997, all the pundits and polls said hung Parliament. And it was a landslide Labour victory. Just like the first post WWII election. The last election was not Johnson's charisma. It was Brexit and Corbyn. Now they are saying that in their words ConLab inak s narrowing the gap and will win the next election. The people have had enough of lies, fraud, corruption, favours, manslaughter and greed.

He isn't. One has had three Premier League team moves by the age of 21 and the other has never had a Premier League move at the age of 30. He also starts for Scotland over McLean. Ask any manager in the top flight if they had to take one which would it be, and I'm certain 100% of them would take wee Billy.

And just a reminder that this was the person who ran the country for that short turbulent period. Here he is about to run to his car (20m away).

Yes I remember reading something somewhere that 'stop the boats' is popular but also fairly low down the list of priorities when you can't afford your energy bills or weekly shop.

Is this thread for Fag Packet Accountants only and shareholders with 1000 shares ?

Not sure football is your bag fella 🤣🤣

Tzolis? There's something there, but he's no George Best or even the superstar in the making that we were led to believe he would be. I have remained on his side throughout and made all the usual excuses for his lack of impact at Carrow Road, but I am beginning to feel that if he doesn't show more in the opportunities that Webber seems prepared to give him in the next eight games, then we have a massive disappointment on our hands. That Sargent is a different player altogether goes without say. Instantly likeable, his energy and work rate are immense, and predictably, he has become a fan's favourite at the Championship level. He seems a million miles away from being Premier League level though, and that was the intent when he was brought in. Even though age is on his (Sargent's) side, perhaps Tzolis is the most likely of the two to eventually succeed at the top level. The jury needs to be out for a very long time, though. Their combined cost and wages might have been better spent on a more established striker with some reputation. If we do sneak a promotion this season, then Webber will need to fork out appropriate funds at last, whether or not Pukki departs. There's not much chance of that as things stand at the moment. Hernandez will be a big miss if he is out of the run-in, and for all the obvious reasons. I was actually surprised that he was loaned out when he was, and seem to recall that he stood out a bit during the tail end of Daniel Farke's first season in the Prem.

I have to congratulate you on your rhetorical skills. You've got everyone on here comparing Tzolis - a young people who was given almost no playing time under Smith - with Emi - a player who almost everyone would agree is one of the best to ever wear the yellow and green. The players Tzolis should be compared with are Sargent, Dowell, Hernandez, Marquinhos, and the question should be, 'Does he have more or less to offer than them?' Obviously your answer would be 'less'. Fair enough. We all have our opinions about players. But when you state - as you have - that Tzolis has no technical ability, it sounds like bias to me. Someone without technical ability would not have worked his way between the two defenders as he did for his goal a few games ago, would not have been capable of making that inch-perfect, supremely weighted pass to Sargent, nor he would have been able to escape from the attention of two defenders in a corner near our own goal line with a couple of flicks (as he did at one point in the Stoke game). As you know, I do not have a high opinion of Sargent, but if I stated that he doesn't have stamina, it would be so ridiculous that it could be nothing but bias on my part, and it would detract from, rather than further, my argument. Question Tzolis's mental fortitude or point out his lack of speed and lack of physical condition - these are good points, so there is no need to make statements that are palpably untrue.

As a fan of just the one club, I’ve nothing to compare with. Suffice to say that Norwich City are bottom of my Fan Engagement League Table. By some way. I remember how seeing the great old gaff used to make me smile as I came back to the Fine City by train; pride, that’s what it was. Now I just tut and harrumph. Even the Andrews has gone to the dogs. And then there’s the **** ****ing drum! 🥁

He was otherwise engaged ..... BREAKING: Longlevens Development 3 Fekenham 3 (Gilmour 2, Rice og).

I know we're beating Italy 2-0 on Italian soil and our midfield has been pretty good, but just imagine how many we would be winning by if Gilmour was playing for us... 🤓

He wouldn't. But that's mainly because he wouldn't have been overhyped as the second coming by the media and Chelsea fans. If he was a Norwich youth player he'd have gone out on loan a bit, played a few games for us and most of us would probably still think he had potential. As it was he came here and we were all told he was amazing and when it turned out he wasnt really up to the premier league it was Norwich's fault

My grandad (who was more of a father to me - long story) passed during lock-down from cancer and there were only a handful of us allowed at the funeral and no get together after wards. Was so difficult trying to choose which family members should/could go etc. Then the other side of it all was: because of certain guidelines in place in the hospitals, I was sat in a room on my own for hours waiting to find out if I had cancer or not - was then told that yes at 28 years old, I had cancer and I had then sit there on my own (my missus in the car and my mum and Nan at their homes waiting for news) as none were aloud in with me... I was then left alone with this information for however long because of these guidelines - where all I needed/wanted was for someone to be there with me. 2 years on and I remember the feeling like it was yesterday and it's something I will never ever forget and will never forgive.

I wonder if the US will do a prisoner swap ?

Yeah I totally agree. I've been really pleased to see the recent willingness of young English players to go abroad rather than sit in the reserve teams of big clubs in the Premier League. It has worked wonders for Sancho and Bellingham and we're seeing more doing the same thing.

This notion of a punishment is a fallacy. They still had to work with us, trade with us, have holidays with us, be in NATO with us. Of course they would miss our contribution. Of course they would miss our involvement. But they certainly weren't going to cut off their nez to spite their face. Punishing has been bandied about to convince those that voted Leave because they believed the EU was the bogeyman that the only thing that mattered was to be free of the EU no matter the cost. And that hid the real truth that Brexit was the idea of a few interested parties who were part the UK's failure to grasp the fact that the world was changing and that it was becoming benevolent to others because it mattered.

You are missing the point DK. This thread isn’t about Wee Billy , it’s about the stick we as a club and set of fans got for ruining the career of the next Iniesta . We were told by the Sports Media that he was too good for us. We should be grateful to have such a gifted player . Frankly I’m indifferent to Gilmour . It was the narrative we all had to put up with that grated with me.

And can we also agree that no one can be bothered to argue the to55 with Mr . Arenticlever?