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  1. king canary

    The worlds going mad ...........

    I notice they didn't interview her in a bikini. Maybe that is a factor?
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    SWiss Ramble on NCFC

    Dumb on our side when we signed him.
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    SWiss Ramble on NCFC

    We did. Lovely little player but one of the dumbest transfers I can remember.
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    The worlds going mad ...........

    I see you've discovered brackets to go with exclamation marks. Soon you'll get on to full stops...
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    SWiss Ramble on NCFC

    Interesting read but I struggle on some of it- I'm assuming the Maddison fee was accounted for in the previous years financial reports which explains him talking about us not selling our young players this year but this does present a slightly warped view of the season.
  6. I know this topic has been done to death and many people are bored of it, but I found myself having several different trains of thought/questions looking through multiple threads and thought I'd put them in one place. This season and especially our summer window has thrown into sharp relief the limitations a club of our size with our ownership model faces in trying to compete at the very top level. So what do we already know... 1- We're debt free and in a very solid financial position 2- We have been burned by past experiences and thus have made the decision to exist as a self funding club 3- We spent less than any promoted team in the last 5 years (and possibly further back) on our return to the top division and significantly less than most of those teams. 4- Any wage budget we run in the Premier League really needs to be cut-able down to about £20-25m within two seasons in the Championship or we're in trouble. This leads me to a few key questions (which I know can't actually be answered but still...) 1- If we stay up is this the sort of budget we can expect to see spent next season too (without player sales)? 2- If we go down we'll theoretically be one of the richest teams in the Championship- will we be able to flex our financial muscles? 3- If we spent an extended spell in the Championship, does our model rely on yearly player sales to balance the books? Which brings me to my final point/question- what does this mean for our expectation/ambitions? Do our finance dictate that all we can really expect is the odd season in the Premier League where we try and perform miracles by staying up on a shoestring? I know the idea of an established Premier League club is something of a myth outside of 6 or 7 teams but what else is there to aim for? As fans do we just have to accept that if we're in this division we'll likely be running a significantly lower budget than the other 19 teams? Is there an argument that as a Premier League we should devote more of our efforts to cup competitions? After all if our budget makes survival an extremely tough task, why not have some fun in the cups and create the kind of memories other fans dream of? Is our long term financial future open for negotiation with our owners? I find it difficult to understand their longer term view as they make statements that can appear contradictory. We're told the club is open for investment/owners would sell under the right circumstances but they've also told us they've decided to pass the club on to their nephew and talked about not wanting to sell to foreigners at previous AGM's. So what is the case? And finally as fans what is our role in all of this? Is it to accept that fact our owners don't have the cash and be grateful for the money/time/memories they have given us? Do we have the right to question their succession plan? I know many will argue it is their business, they can do what they want and if we don't like it we don't have to go- but to argue that to me misses the fundamental difference between being a fan of a football club and the customer of another type of business. Or is there the possibility that Tom Smith brings much more to the table than we know and his ascension doesn't just mean 30 more years of our current budgetary issues. I know this is long, rambley and doesn't contain any actual answers but it can be useful to put thoughts down in one place. I'm really not sure where I sit as too much of what I need to know to make up my mind sits in the future. We shall see I guess...
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    Ownership/Money/The Long Term

    From a pure revenue standpoint we would likely be- parachute payments, sizeable gates and likely money from player sales.
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    The whole money thing I find irksome

    You can lay the notion to rest because nobody has said it.
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    Is 'The Model' flawed?

    All you're arguing is that we previously gave bad managers and scouting teams the chance to spend a bunch of money. Plus the failure with RVW and Hooper in one window was offset by the profit made on Fer and Redmond, both who cost more than we spent on anyone this summer.
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    Is 'The Model' flawed?

    Yeah, I hate the 'but Naismith!' argument for not spending money. He was a bad signing for a whole host of reasons, none of which were really related to his fee.
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    Sellable Assets

    Lewis still counts as home grown so holds the same value.
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    Is 'The Model' flawed?

    Yes quite a few owners charge interest but looking at the Guardian's breakdown of various Premier League club finances the interest is generally pretty minimal compared to the amounts loaned/invested (however you want to describe it). For example Palace paid a net interest of £1m against £21m in loans from company directors, Brighton paid £0.8m against loans of over £200m and Bournemouth paid £2m against loans of nearly £70m Also, fundamentally, the best way for an owner to keep getting paid interest/get their loan money back comes from keeping the club successful. How do you define someone like Denim at Bournemouth for instance- is he an investor (£2m a year in interest on loans put in) or is he a benefactor (£69m loaned to the club with presumably minimal chance of getting it back if they got relegated?
  13. All of our defence on one side of the pitch. No semblance of cover from our midfielders. Is anyone talking to each other? This stood out to me in real time last night and it looks even worse on second viewing.
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    Wtf is going on here?

    Yes, I mentioned earlier that Godfrey shares some of the blame for that first goal. There is also an element that Buendia has to realise Godfrey is further forward- if we knows the defence is a man or two light behind him then it is doubly stupid to do what he did.
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    Sheffield United

    Without meaning to sound all 'Big Sam' I think if Wilder were French or German he'd be considered one of the best managerial prospects in the country.
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    Is 'The Model' flawed?

    Fundamentally in my opinion we need owners who can afford to take a 'calculate risk' at this level- that doesn't mean going Villa or Fulham level spending but right now the opinion seems to be spending £20-30m in a summer is a gamble we can't afford which is going to render us likely uncompetitive at this level. This also isn't a dig but I hate this 'There is no reason to suppose that spending money on "extra bodies" would have been any more successful' sort of argument. There is no guarantee of anything in football, it doesn't mean you should try. Our budget means we've added two loanees who seem to have pedigree (that we haven't seen that yet isn't anyone's fault) a striker with a horrific injury record, a right back who was never going to be more than a back up and whatever the hell Roberts is. It also means we've filled gaps in the squad but we haven't really improved much- players like Stiepermann and McLean for me are decent Championship level but shouldn't be more than squad players at this level yet we've not tried to upgrade them.
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    Is 'The Model' flawed?

    I think the main question is how is a debt free club with Premier League money and guaranteed parachute payments if we go back down only able to afford to spend what we did.
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    Paddy D and Daniel Farke

    Totally agree.
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    Paddy D and Daniel Farke

    The mistake we made with Hughton was sacking him too late.
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    Sheffield United

    Successfully rode their momentum, added quality to the team without upsetting the squads harmony and avoided being decimated by injuries.
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    Is 'The Model' flawed?

    I don't think it would be about bringing in who he likes but he might relish working at a club that isn't afraid to upgrade their squad after promotion.
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    Wtf is going on here?

    I don't think it's an individual error or a tactical error by Farke- I agree more with Teemu about a lack of organisation and discipline. Looking at that picture we've just got collectively sucked in and followed the ball. Watford have 3 attackers on that side of the pitch in our half yet our entire back 4 and central midfield are all in that zone. I know Tettey isn't a central defender but he's the captain and should be organising. Equally Godfrey is supposed to be something of a leader (captained England u21's) so should be letting Lewis know he isn't needed over there.
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    Wtf is going on here?

    How has a thread about our defensive positioning become about booing already??
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    Moritz Leitner

    I'd seen the Leitner rumour on Twitter and dismissed it as BS but Adam Brandon who is a football writer and Norwich fan has said he's heard similar from two sources which makes me wonder. He's never been a **** stirrer.
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    Some hope in the aftermath

    A fully fit Amadou may also make a big difference.
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