Jump to content

king canary

Members
  • Content Count

    12,945
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    21

Everything posted by king canary

  1. king canary

    Players - Take A Pay Cut

    That is definitely true. I'm working from home and my only expense right now is my food shop and maybe the occasional treat like a video game or movie rental to keep myself entertained. No petrol, no drinks out, no coffees, no lunch at work all adds up.
  2. king canary

    Players - Take A Pay Cut

    I think that is fair. The PR of furloughing employees so swiftly before the player wage issue was properly addressed isn't great. I'm skeptical about how much money we're actually saving through using this scheme and thus te necessity of it.
  3. king canary

    Players - Take A Pay Cut

    Clubs have sacked footballers in the past but it is very rare as you essentially lose out on a huge amount of potential revenue from selling them. Even then it is usually for gross misconduct.
  4. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    The argument isn't the players should pay the staff. The argument is how can a multimillion £ football club both afford to pay a number of people north of £20k a week and need the government to help them pay staff on £20k a year.
  5. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. You're right the government could have put in greater criteria/restrictions. However I'm reasonably sympathetic to them having to draw up a huge piece of legislation somewhat on the fly and they may not have considered every angle. I believe in situations like this it isn't too much to ask for organisations to make a moral decision on something like this. This crisis has highlighted a number of cases of shoddy corporate behaviour. While we're far from the most egregious, I am disappointed we're in the same boat.
  6. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    Well I've clearly made an impression on you to use one of your 6 posts on this I guess...
  7. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    In the Webber article on the homepage, he suggests some of the players have already come forward about doing something which is good. It seems it is mostly going through the PFA though. I had a look earlier and the combined wage bill of Man U, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal is over £1,000,000,000. Just 10% of that would more than cover both the furloughed non-player salaries and help out lower league clubs in serious financial peril.
  8. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    I can only assume this Webber quote on a podcast came before the decision to furlough staff otherwise it looks terrible. “It is too early to ask a player to give up some of his salary when at the moment I couldn’t look him in the eye and say the reason we are doing this is because we will lose X,” said Webber, speaking on the latest edition of Guillem Balague’s Pure Football podcast. “Once we get to the point of understanding what the losses would be then it is for everyone to get together.
  9. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    You're of course correct about the criteria/rules, and from a purely selfish financial perspective for the club it saves money. For me it is much more of a moral question- in my view the scheme is there to help businesses who cannot afford to pay staff and will either be forced to lay people off or go bust. We don't fall under that as far as I'm aware. We're certainly not as egregious an example as Spurs (pre tax profit of over £80m yet getting Government money to pay staff) and I believe there is now some pressure on the PFA/LMA for players to take a voluntary pay cut which is where this money should be coming from IMO. We'll see what happens but fundamentally the optics of a business paying players north of £20k a week asking for a Government handout to pay their lower paid non football staff isn't great.
  10. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    I dont pay taxes for business who can afford to pay their staff to pass that onto the government.
  11. king canary

    NCFC to furlough staff

    The extra 20% is good but I'm extremely uncomfortable with any Premier League football clubs using this scheme.
  12. king canary

    Corbyn Speaks

    I lived in London under both of them- generally, I think most people were pretty happy with Khan. Johnson seemed to be largely associated with expensive vanity projects. Think Khan did the wrong thing with the tube services though.
  13. king canary

    President Trump

    Incredible
  14. king canary

    Corbyn Speaks

    I don't think there is much comparison between the Labour Party under Blair/Brown and this current incarnation.
  15. king canary

    Best performance by a visiting player

    The Henry one for me- just amazing. I remember a slight twinge of embarrassment hearing our fans chant 'who are ya?' at Dennis Bergkamp when he came to take a corner.
  16. king canary

    Health + Fitness

    Good thread. I'm on the 'husky' side and definitely need to kick a few pounds but I've struggled to find something that works for me exercise wise. I find running puts too much strain on my knees and I end up stopping for fear of doing myself some serious harm and the gym selection near me is limited to say the least. Interested to hear of others experiences with yoga as that always sounds like an appealing option.
  17. king canary

    Corbyn Speaks

    I know he isn't going to be leader soon but he must be aware the optics of him saying 'I've been proven right' are just ****ing awful.
  18. king canary

    Jamal to Spurs

    These sorts of bonuses are extremely commonplace- I'm surprised you're surprised, to be honest. Bonuses for goals, assists, wins, draws, clean sheets (for keepers and defenders), hitting a set number of goals in a season, even just for appearing are all built into player contracts. More can be found here- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/11/revealed-staggering-amounts-money-premier-league-stars-earn/
  19. king canary

    Jamal to Spurs

    Don't think this is true- from the Secret Footballer... "Bonuses have become stupidly intricate, and today bonuses break into two parts. Club bonuses and individual bonuses. When a player signs for a club he will become part of the club bonus pool. That is to say that whatever the team achieves he will share in the profits on a pro-rata basis. This includes win bonuses and bonuses for drawing a match. There is nothing for a loss. However, clubs skin that bonus differently. Sometimes they will pay a standard win and draw bonus regardless of the opposition, but sometimes they will pay the bonus based on how the team is functioning in the league. If it is in the Champions League places then the bonuses are increased for a win, and if it is in the relegation places then the bonuses are considerably less for a win. That never made any sense to me as a player, but that’s how it works at some clubs. Then we have individual bonuses. And it is these bonuses where your agent earns his money. If you’re a striker then you want a goal bonus and a win bonus and draw bonus on top of your squad bonus. But if you are the number one striker then you want a goal bonus that is bigger than your team-mates’. For example, it is obvious whose job it is to score goals, at Tottenham it will be Harry Kane, and therefore Kane would expect his goal bonus to be that much bigger than anyone else’s. And this is why there is no silver bullet when it comes to bonuses. There is no one size fits all approach. There is a pot of money available for a player’s contract and the club wants to split it in their favour."
  20. king canary

    Jamal to Spurs

    I think it is a bit early to know what the financial effects will be. We're going to lose gate receipts and match day revenue from catering etc. We may also save some money as we won't be paying out things like goal or assist bonuses for players. There are also some huge unknowns. Say the season is declared null and void- would players who have bonuses in their contracts for avoiding relegation be due them? I'd suggest not but I'm sure agents would suggest otherwise. Also some outside factors- I'd expect the Killers gig will be cancelled, will we miss out on money from that?
  21. king canary

    Caring Club

    Got an image of Cantwell ringing Til and being told to cut his hair and stop wearing gloves...
  22. king canary

    Steven Naismith

    Imagine having your income chopped in half unexpectedly- sure it isn't poverty wages but if you've got a mortgage, outgoing etc etc it makes a huge difference.
  23. king canary

    Steven Naismith

    He does seem like a good guy in general but as the OP says, easy for him to take the cut when he's been earning about £2m a year from us. Less easy for a younger player on £1k p/w.
  24. Finally ploughing through the Dragon Tattoo series of books, nothing special but generally a good distraction. For films, I really enjoyed Booksmart on Amazon Prime. Described as a female Superbad but I dont think that does it justice.
  25. king canary

    Sky Sports Is Now Free !

    Did mine today, thanks for the tip Til
×