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If true, good luck to him. Didn't work out for him at Norwich but he was always professional and a top lad.

What are you on about? More league goals than RvW. Only two less than Naismith. All while behind one of the best goalscorers this club has ever seen. And a fraction of the price of the aforementioned players too. As bad signings go, he isn't even in the top (bottom) dozen.

Really? I'm not so sure. At the time people were complaining that Farke had no plan B (some even mentioned an old-fashioned centre forward type). Hugill actually scored some vital goals in the small amount of time he had on the pitch, and it's arguable that the money gained from promotion more than covered his transfer fee. His ratio of goals per minute on the pitch was actually very good in the promotion season.

Headline of the Day goes to the Mirror: "The Only Way Is Ethics".

Do you really think that is true? I would say most messages say the same, they wish him well but are glad it is over. Some people are angry that he has not kept performing in a similiar way to a number of the other out of contract players. No real disgusting hate, in Glasgow 50% of the population will try to intimidate him, by all accounts it makes our relationship with Ipswich look it best buddies.

For me it’s the keepy-ups penalty. It sort of encapsulates so much of Todd. Clearly talented, smattering of cocky arrogance, one eye on the highlights reel but when applied, the ability to carry it all off. I really wish he’d kicked on here, we were desperate for that post-Emi and it seems a lifetime ago he was being spoken about in sentences that contained the words Grealish and Mount. The major disappointment is that the wheels came off for whatever reason and an outstanding academy talent has departed for 2’6, an easy peel satsuma and a lump of coal. Hopefully he regains the spark and goes on to great success. Maybe one day we’ll find out if he was badly handled, a bit of a threepenny bit or whatever. Still a bit of a shame. The loocul boy done good story is encouraging for youngsters but if (I have no idea) the local goldfish bowl was a bit much, Glasgow will be an eye opener. Wish him all the luck in the world though. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I just wanted to thank everyone for their contributions regarding the cash out dilemma. We somehow got it right and I can only put that down to the 'Power of the PUPs'. 💪

Hopefully the start....

Well, according to the Derby Telegraph, Cashin is currently injured. So it sounds like a Webber signing.

Congratulations to the team, they are a great asset to our club.

This one for me. Peak Farkeball (falling behind against a bottom 3 team and struggling to break them down before a bit of Pukki, Emi and Cantwell magic). Took us 10 points clear with 10 games to go.

After the last 18 months of nonsense....probably today. relieved this circus is finally over

I don’t see why this was a particularly bizarre signing - he was brought in for specific role and played ok when called upon. We do seem to be shedding a few players this window, either on loan or permanently, what with Ramsey also returning to Villa.

Cheap forward to be the backups backup with championship experience. Also offering something different for Farke to use. Scoring record was rubbish before us, but we generally seemed ok with it at the time

No-one will forget his skills and goals and you can't take away his contribution to our promotions and that few weeks when he was hot in the PL - but he has all along been talking about getting to the top and what riles people is that he has allowed that ambition to ruin the last two years of his career and contributing very little on the field. I don't suppose the club are blameless and I don't doubt his agent has been part of the problem too, but ultimately it is down to the player to get himself right to play.....to work hard, take advice, be humble and buckle down and take the opportunities when they arise. He's done none of that although I accept he's probably been trying hard to keep fit, but how can he be match fit for Rangers after appearing so little for us? Wish him luck, but this thread is long for a reason - a big talent and a local one at that has been too long off the field of play and there's been precious little actual information to let us understand why, hence all the justified speculation and suggestions as to why he hasn't played, even if the abusiveness of some of it has been out of order.

No worries. It looks to be a story far worse than Zahawi's tax dodging but highly likely to not get talked about or fully looked into. There seems to be a lot of these stories about. The children disappearing in Brighton, the ONS completely ballsing up their figures (not just a small error), Johnson going to Ukraine etc etc. Like the sewage still being pumped into our rivers it's a never ending with this lot. (Now it's Philp's turn today to pretend everything is fine.)

The 'City View' of that game, with Ben and Jamal celebrating Adam and Todd's penalties in the shoot out, and then the shot of Delia hugging Adam afterwards, encapsulates everything that was good about that Delia-Webber-Farke era. Exciting young players, many of whom had come through our academy, going toe-to-toe with the best, often falling short but occasionally doing something really special. We were doing it differently, and I was really proud of that. @Captain Holtis obviously right that the Man City goal is surely Todd's NCFC highlight. But this game will always have a special place in my heart. Lots of people complain that Todd is a bit c0cky. But you don't stick a penalty in the top corner in a shootout, with tens of thousands of opposition fans trying to put you off, at whatever age he was, without being a bit c0cky. I'm really sad about how it has worked out, and without background knowledge, try not to speculate on the reasons why. But like @Petriix, I wish him well and hope he regains his best form. He had something.

Get Jimmy Ocean in there, he can sell some Ice Creams on the side too! 🙂

It may well cement a positive vote for remain/rejoin in the future.

My wife asked me to cook tonight. I didn't think I was that bad.

Hugill's biggest problem was his surname isn't Rhodes.

Its very difficult to say what intelligence means or equates to. Obviously it means the ability to understand and store knowledge. But also it is the means to analyse information and interpret whether the information is important or useful. So when Mum and Dad sent me to Sunday School, my lack of intelligence and belief that what I was told was gospel, encouraged me to believe in God and all things biblical. When accrued some intelligence, I analysed what I had been told and became agnostic before eventually atheist. Mum and Dad no more believed in God but wanted a kiss and cuddle on Sunday morning. But of course, I know there are people I would consider intelligent who believe vehemently in God's existence. And science tells me there are black holes but I have never seen one either. But I believe those that tell me are intelligent. However, when it came to Brexit, I don't honestly believe it had anything to do with intelligence. It was a belief. As much as I dare say French or German people say the British are just out for themselves, we did have an argument based not on intelligence but dislike of all things foreign. With no proof of course. Personally I had no clue whether Brexit would be good for the country but reasoned that if I didn't know what the future held, why change it. But as we know, and we have seen countless examples of people rambling on about things they have no intelligence about but what they hear suits their belief. Cornwall voted overwhelmingly to leave yet the intelligence says Cornwall gained dramatically thanks to our membership. So where did intelligence reason differently? I recently saw a chap rabbiting on about WTO rules but couldn't say what those rules were. And you only have to look at MAGA and Qanon in the US to see that intelligence is second to belief.

Not really it made sense. Pukki was dippng in form and needed someone to challenge him nevermind our lack of strikers. At the time there were lots of complains that Pukki was being out outmuscled and was a little liteweight as was the rest of the team. We needed someone we could bring on with a strong physical presence. (Idah is more of a beanpole let's be honest) Hugill was also someone who knew the Championsip inside and out having made almost 200 appearances in said divison. He was also well known for being an all around nice top bloke who was always happy to play, always happy to get involved and was great for the dressing room. And if you don't believe me just listen to what Farke had to say about Hugill "He is a key player for me... I don't just rate a player because of his minutes and his impact on the pitch. You don’t win a title or promotion just as 11 players. He' a leader in our dressing room and one of the main topics why we were promoted".

Yep although that did prove to be pretty accurate in the end. Remember when the bad form started and Smith said ‘we’ve been playing just as well as we did during the unbeaten run’, as if that proved the performances had still been good enough to win? Unfortunately all it ultimately showed was that performances had never been good enough to sustain an auto-promotion challenge for a season. And although there was some decline during the bad run, performances still remained fairly reminiscent of that early season form under Smith - with the hallmark 20 minutes of excellence still evident all the way up to the Stoke, QPR and Boro games at home - yet throughout this period we never even got close to those results we found during the unbeaten run. It was only after the World Cup where performances really and truly fell off a cliff for Smith, I don’t think we managed a meaningful spell of attack for longer than 5 minutes a game and that’s generous! Overall in terms of results perhaps we were lucky during some games of the good run and unlucky during some games of the bad run, but regardless the end point is still the same - nowhere near good enough to challenge the top 2, and in the end barely good enough for the play offs (I would argue not at all based on form at that time).

It does, but that's partly because a significant number of under-35s with more formal education didn't bother to vote, thereby flushing their future down the toilet. They weren't as clever as they imagined.

Ask and ye shall receive! 😉 You would be correct in your assumptions. In this scenario note that our first goal carries an xG of 0, because we didn't actually take the shot, so there's no recording of the quality of chance. The second half was pretty much total dominance with very little created by Coventry. As you can see, our 2nd and 3rd goals were relatively low scoring chances, as were Dowells. The one that surprises me a bit is Sargents but it's worth noting at the time of him shooting there are at least 2, maybe 3 defender between him and the goal and the goalkeeper is in position. All of those will be factors. Same with Hernandez, where the goalkeeper probably should have saved. Second half we should have scored a couple more times than we did probably - as the graph indicates. Pukki is again in the top xG players.

Some time ago we had some discussions on here about corruption here and elsewhere. I was of the (informed) opinion that corruption here was also common but just less seen or different (I could say accepted) than what may be more visible elsewhere. I see nothing within the present government to change my mind. It's only when they get caught hand in the cookie jar it becomes plain. Money talks (and walks).

Evan Davies asked yesterday on his evening programme whether the UK was facing more sleaze...being uncovered or whether journalism was better. No answers given or conclusions anyway. Our appetite for more trust damaging stories has been reset I think. Like your sewage point it is a metaphor. So much of it that stuff just merges and submerges. In the end one is exhausted by sleaze and corruption. Like ever though, us working folk have our football and our betting to keep us occupied. We have no need to worry. Just take our medicine, our self medication.

Quality player on his day. For whatever reason for the past 24 months he might of well not been here. A shame really as could of been a stand out player for us. Sometimes things dont work out, good luck to him.

Meanwhile. Russia once again proves it is much less expensive to bribe Americans (especially Republicans) than to build a first-class army. Just bribe American political and law enforcement institutions and Americans will then turn on themselves ... & credible rumor the same NY FBI office leaked H.Clinton e-mail server story.

Todd's got a good heart. I wish him every success at Rangers and thank him for the good times here. There's plenty of time for him to turn his career around.

Him leaving.

False information? You mean like the remainer one, where the world was going to end if we even THOUGHT about having a referendum? And if we did, we had no choice but to vote Remain or face annihilation, starving gangs of children roaming the streets, immediate reduction to sub-Saharan levels of poverty & destitution? Yeah right. I have this suspicion that one of the main drivers for me applied to most other people as well, i.e. a complete disillusion with governments of all stripes, a sense that government was simply getting bigger & bigger, trying to control all aspects of our lives, & becoming more & more remote from the electorate. And yet we're we were expected to tolerate an even MORE remote layer of government, one with even greater powers, even more corrupt & venal & undemocratic, & pay through the nose for the privilege. Yeah right. Thanks but no thanks.

*cough* Kenny *cough*

Thank goodness. I haven't been able to use my Hadron Collider for an hour.

I still think becchio holds that title, not the fact we signed him, more the fact of what happened after he'd signed.

Wasn’t he the highest scorer in our last pre-season games? He’s definitely got the ability to score if in the right environment, just as you wouldn’t put Pukki in a team with a load of hoofballers.

Bratwurst and beer at a Dortmund game isn’t it ? 😁

Indeed, he’s certainly not at fault, his lack of talent was there to see, but his application and attitude was always to be commended, maybe had Cantwell had the same attitude things would have been different for him. Unfortunately it rarely appears to work out for Hugill as I believe this will be his 17th move (permanent & loan).

Probably because players are humans, not robots. People with different personalities react to things differently. Different agents encourage different behaviours, different people listen to different people within their lives.

Similar stats were also used to explain away why a good result was actually not a good result as well, or even why a good 9-game unbeaten run was not a good thing either.

He’s used to a hateful environment now with all the disgusting hate he’s been given on this message board 😡

You missed a trick here Cambridge - you could have started a thread entitled "Forest sign Omotoye" 😉

No! The Leave campaign employed Cummings and Cambridge Analytica to identify more than 4m people on twitter and Facebook who had never voted before to vote for the first (and probably last) time. They achieved that by bombarding those people with false information such as 70m Turks would soon be arriving in the UK. Donald Trump went on to use CA in a similar way and with similar success. It's how he came to know Farage. I've no doubt there was some sneering from some above the IQ line but it was nothing compared to the likes of Gove and Rees-Mogg who shamefully convinced those beneath the IQ line that experts didn't know what they were talking about. Seek out 'Brexit, the Uncivil War on C4' . Hugely entertaining and sadly true. Also have a read of the survey carried out by Kent University on the reasons people voted Leave. Unfortunately, IQ appears to have played a huge part. https://kar.kent.ac.uk/60902/

Apart from Israel!