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Can't see the obligatory youtube video, so here's one (from 2014 unfortunately):

https://labourheartlands.com/labour-constituencies-voted-to-leave-the-eu/

I said The problem is there's a feminist ideology that says women's abilities are no different to men'. A feminist ideology I said. There are others which do not. Read some Camille Paglia for example. You're incapable of reasoned debate. I'm done with you.

If you think women's football is of a higher standard than 99% of men's football that never gets televised then you are seriously deluded. You wouldn't have to watch me for more than 5 minutes (probably a lot less) to realise I'm not very good. Same applies to women's football (amongst a host of other things). I have no prejudices about male & female abilities. I never thought women could play drums well, simply because I'd never seen one - until I saw Lenny Kravitz's drummer. And now there's Yoyoko, who at 9 years old can play drums at a top professional level; she's equivalent to a Premiership footballer. Please let me know if you think there are any women capable of playing in a Premiership football team. In fact let me know when a professional men's football team considers a woman as team member. And feminism does impact on my life, as it does on everyone's. What does "women’s football should be enjoyed in its own right" mean exactly? You can apply that to anything. I think you're the one who's pushing reality to fit an agenda.

Perhaps because it's on telly a lot lately & I pay a licence fee. I'd be equally annoyed if they devoted as much time to tiddlywinks.

Smack the Pony got there first

From wiki: Cultural feminism is the ideology of a "female nature" or "female essence" that attempts to revalidate what they consider undervalued female attributes.[18] It emphasizes the difference between women and men but considers that difference to be psychological, and to be culturally constructed rather than biologically innate

I think your assertions are frankly ludicrous. The only knowledge I have of women's football is what I've seen of it. I desired to be the best that I could at football. Does that mean I should appear on tv? Having pride in your performances, your desire to win, does not entitle you to special treatment. If those were the yardsticks, why not televise every sporting event in the country? How do you decide which deserves to be shown? Why would you choose to watch games where all the measurable performance levels are on a par with a decent schoolboy's team? The rising popularity of women's football is questionable, as Molly pointed out above & as did. the Guardian article I quoted. It's being pushed by a feminist ideology of women being as good as men (if not better) at anything & everything. There are plenty of people willing to go along with this despite all objective evidence because, one way or another, there's profit in it for them (for the time being).

I think the drive for women's football has everything to do with ideology.

That's the most sensible thing I've read on here. The problem is there's a feminist ideology that says women's abilities are no different to men. No amount of evidence to the contrary will persuade them otherwise. So it's adherents are stuck with the ridiculous hype & propaganda instead of accepting that women's football will be played in a different way to the men's game (as are any other games). I still won't watch it though.

Further to what I said previously about the presentation of the women's game, I feel much the same about the men's game, & many other sports as well. It's the ridiculous hype, the cartoonisation & infantilisation involved that drives me bonkers. I avoid it as much as possible but it's difficult to get away from. The days of understatement & rationality are long gone.

Hundreds. But they're usually on because a lot of other people watch them. I don't think that's true of Conference South football.

But I wouldn't watch a Conference South game even if it was on the telly, even though I would probably find it more watchable than the women's cup final.

No problem with women playing football, or anything else for that matter. And if one of my little granddaughters ever got good enough to play seriously I'd be supporting them all the way - but I wouldn't expect anyone else to be at all interested. What annoys me is the fact is the way it's presented, & the fact it's being subsidised by those of us who have no interest in it whatsoever.