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1st Goal at 1:50 Assist/Free kick at 3:03 2nd Goal at 4:20

2 goals and an assist in a 3 - 0 win last night (ok it was against cuba and their best player onel 😜)

My favourite comment on that thread:

Thats a bit strange because I thought Herman made it pretty clear that he 'hated' Odey because he is British and quite deliberately damaged his own country in pursuit of making huge amounts of cash for himself. Soros, on the other hand, is not British and whilst you can argue that what he did wasn't so much different to Odey, he didn't stab his own country in the back and a fair bit of the money he made has gone to philantropic causes unlike the odious Odey which was just about personal enrichment.

So many versions of this album. Just listened to the deluxe one. (Well one of them...). With Tommy. Utter genius. But if we're going to the original album then live at hull which they did the night before or after I forget is maybe better. Both showcase a band at the absolute peek. The Ramones for straightforwardness. Stop making sense for the performance. Oasis love at knebworth because even tho they weren't at their best I'm 'singing' on there. Nirvana MTV unplugged. A sign of what they could've become?

I think Worthy’s achievement is somewhat underrated, perhaps clouded by his eventual sacking which went on too long. Farke took over a side that whilst underperforming and in need of upheaval, had been in the prem two years previous and finished just outside the playoffs the year before. Worthington took over a side that had been languishing in the bottom half of the champs since the mid 90’s and was even poorer than we are now. Thus isn’t to belittle Farkes achievements, the man did a great job in the second tier but with the players Worthy had at his disposal I think his achievements are equal to them

Some very helpful information you're providing us, thank you. In your opinion, what is the best age to start with the 15 year baby process? I guess 23 would be good, as she wouldn't have tasted too much independence or built up a career so you can pull her out of work a lot easier. That would make her 38 when the final baby pops out - And, if that last one stays at home until they're 18 or so, that keeps her busy until her mid-50s... All being well, of course. Takes up less jobs too, which is handy for unemployment levels, house will be well kept and gives us more time to go down the pub and start to become real men again. You've really got this idea nailed, how do we sign up?

As it's sunny...

The idea of seeing Farke in the Leeds dugout makes me feel physically sick. I could handle him going to almost any other English club. But not Leeds. Not ****ing Leeds! If it was almost any other club I'd wish him nothing but success. But not Leeds. Hope he sends them to league one. **** Leeds. This will be ten times worse than seeing Lambert at Villa. All the best. Big Keith Scott.

Nope nothing 😁

Richie Havens is the correct answer. At the start of his set he keeps saying "Guitar Mike". For a long time I thought he was introducing someone rather than talking to the Sound Engineer.

Colin's angry.

With Labour there is always a clash between ideological purism and realpolitik. It is occasionally possible to combine the two but equally sometimes - and this is such a time - circumstances absolutely demand just the latter. At least to win power; Starmer took over a party that suffered such a catastrophic defeat that psephologists were united in saying it would be damned near impossible to win the next election. You now have the sight of supposedly rising stars in the Tory party stepping down as MPs because they have decided not only will Labour win the next election but the one after that as well. They don't fancy wasting a whole decade - or longer, if the more-radical-than-he-is-painted Starmer is serious about electoral reform - in fruitless opposition.

I disagree here. There will always be a rump 20 to 30% of the electorate that will blindly vote Tory (or Reform or worse) come what may (rather like the Corbynite left). That's actually about where we are down to already and we still see the usual miscreants still supporting Johnson. It's straight from the Trump playbook despite Johnson as the figurehead of Brexit proving to everybody he was/is a person of poor character and no morals totally out for himself. The man who sold out the UK. Then you have the LD and Greens - LD will certainly take a fair chunk of the accessible Tory votes in the south - the Greens will of course act as the party of protest and split off a few percentage points mostly from Labour (I've never fully grasped how a Tory voter could jump to Green - far to the left of Labour apart from as protest vote). All in all SKS has positioned Labour about right - you win general elections from the centre in the UK (and then we have the SNP issues!). We don't need another clown or comedy act.

Good shout, I was struggling to think of anything. However, I would argue it’s trumped by this, just superb (although I do think despite being filmed by Spike Lee he actually failed to capture what it was like to watch from the audience, from about 1:50 you get a small flavour of how well choreographed the band was).

Starmer is fine and his team will be a fresh face in goverment.

Incidentally (and I'm far from his biggest fan) but this does show how tough a job Webber has to balance here. If we turn down £20m odd for Nunez and he doesn't kick on and we end up with nobody interested in him for more than we paid then he'll get pelters. Equally if we sell him now for £20m and he looks incredible for Brighton he'll be questioned. We've seen similar with Cantwell. In general he's done a very good job at getting value for players and selling at the right time and I'm sure he'll have an idea of what price is too good to turn down.

I think this is the key point with Farke. I think Amadou is a key case in point. When we went up we clearly needed a DM. Amadou came in with a fair bit of pedigree- over 100 top flight games, captain of a Bielsa team etc etc. Watching him he clearly had the athletic profile/physicality we'd lacked but he also was clearly not as comfortable on the ball as players like Trybull. However Farke wasn't willing to compromise on ability on the ball and thus he barely ever played as a DM and our midfield got cut through with ease week after week. I'm not saying Amadou would have saved our season- but at some point you have to accept that you're not going to get a Premier League level DM who is also comfortable on the ball without either digging out an incredible diamond like Leicester did with Kante or you have to accept a bit of compromise. To get the kind of players to play Farkeball at the top level you need a huge budget or an awful lot of luck in your recruitment.

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This too... well it is a concert movie...Stop Making Sense - Talking Heads

Personally I’d put Brown, Stringer, Walker and (as much as I hate to say it) Lambert above Farke as they all achieved much more and at a higher level, even if Farkes football was easier on the eye. I’d have him level with Worthington, as Farkes record in the second tier is better but Worthy made a better stab at the top flight. Unfortunately we simply capitulated at Fulham to undo a seasons hard work.

Congratulations, Kalvin Phillips. You've played five minutes all season and have somehow won the treble.

Tbh we need more posters like you that have a balanced opinion but errs towards positive and doesn’t give a **** about going in where necessary. I’m too diplomatic to do that. You’ll either be loved or hated but I don’t think you give a fk either way. In other news, I’ve just been shot in the groin by Tzol Machine says the notification so I’m off to put that fire out. Brb

I don’t watch women’s football. But equally I don’t understand your point of view that’s it’s an embarrassment. You remind me of someone who goes to watch a band and heckles or criticises some kind of artist’s painting when you’ve never done it yourself. It all equates to lack of empathy or understanding. Then you post on a forum knowing you can get away with saying “controversial” statements and not bear the consequences. I feel you’re a wind up merchant and we’ve given you too much air time already.

Do you enjoy thinking about my ar5ehole? Oooh I bet you do

He’s had his first shandy and finally plucked up the courage to give an answer back after 3 weeks….I remember my first beer too

I know you do, you’ve got the muscle for it. I actually think you have some good stuff to say but I’m also not going to pander to your ego if you say something I don’t agree with - I’ve seen you like an argument so long as the argument is intelligent. I don’t see the point of getting personal though, jibes are a waste of mind space and time it takes to type. Though I can’t deny it doesn’t give me a bit of dopamine hit when you get shirty, I’m only human *shrugs

**** me, and here I was thinking I was the biggest **** on this forum.

Why? Do we need one ( preferably two) ?

Patti Smith? Does she count as "punk"?

Michael Moorcock was into music.

Of course stats don’t give the full picture, but the facts remain we were far worse side in terms of results without him than with him. The idea we were the same brilliant footballing side without him doesn’t stack up to reality, and that’s how I remember it personally too. Yea we had some results still but in general we looked worse, played worse and achieved less without him.

That's me

Am I wrong in thinking there were no black acts at Woodstock? But now you've reminded me I think I'll listen to 3+3. Perfect weather for doing nothing and listening to the Isleys with a glass of white. My not guilty pleasure

Fair enough. Although she had no relevance to the running of my life, I quite liked her, thought she was an honest politician and a decent leader.

Yeah you do have to consider the whole pie. It is tough to criticise someone for getting a reported £40m+ for Josh Murphy, Ben Godfrey and Jamal Lewis for instance.

lubbly jubbly....

With both Nunez and, to a much lesser extent, Sara the egg is just showing signs of cracking, and it's not certain what will appear. Maybe it will be an ugly duckling (an inconsistent and lightweight bits and pieces player) or perhaps we have a swan on our hands. It is frustrating for us City supporters that (reported) interest in both is surfacing so soon as we don't quite know what we have on our hands and these ridiculous and premature amounts quoted add to the conundrum. It is quite clear that Sara could be a big influence next season and probably much more so than Nunez, but both could be instrumental in a successful campaign. If we were to be offered around about what was paid for them, even bits and pieces more, then I would guess that none of us would want the players gone. They were both good acquisitions. But such big money changes the equation.

Yeah I agree with this. It is easy to forget how unexpected the playoff final in 01/02 was, coming off the back of several seasons where we never looked like troubling the top 6. To build us back up and have us one game away from staying up was very impressive, it was just marred by what came next. I'd probably rate Farke above him in that he did it twice, while Worthy struggled badly after relegation but I agree Worthington does get a bit underrated/forgotten in what he did.

This is the Nicola Sturgeon who has been released without any charges so far being brought? Just checking in case there is some other Nicola Sturgeon who has been tried and found guilty...🤩

One player isn't responsible for a whole team's performance, so that's an over exaggeration, but I do think he's probably one of those players who is too good for Champ but not good enough for the Prem. Still, there's always that move to DM in his future, isn't there? 🤣

It's this one... it's Alive - The Ramones

About as much good as a nine bob watch Boris Johnson promise.

I can't disagree with much of that actually. I never voted for Labour under Blair btw. I wanted more radical change. I voted LD at that time - I recall because of their aim to raise income tax as one means of redistribution. I thought it was the right thing to do (I'm in favour of higher taxes - like some of the Scandinavian countries) where you can build your public / social services. It's a balance. I don't like parties who try and eke out / focus only on the profit motive / the free market is everything/ cascade economies ...and so on. You get my point. I felt Blair's policies were just a version of Thatcher's. And yet, his administration did much for education and things later like Surestart. The welfare state became bloated under Brown with so many policies and changes. It became a bureaucratic nightmare and I even had some support for Duncan Smith's plans to unify the whole thing and prioritise work as the main principle rather than trying to fill every single hole in the safety net. Yet, I hated what was brought in (UC) because of the values underneath it (deserving and undeserving). I do believe Labour and the Tories are versions of each other. I liked some of Corbyn's policies but thought as a leader he was a disaster, had very little respect either for many of his shadow cabinet. I felt they were a weak opposition. It's a question of where the focus is, the balance. I'm clearly not on the Tory side and never will be. I'm far more to the left of all that and possibly the Greens would be more of a natural home for me. I have remained an idealist, despite knowing (a) I'm slightly foolish and (b) you have to make hard decisions in politics - you cannot please everyone. Politics is, after all, about mediating between things. And I'm someone who wants the best for everyone. It's why I ended up in two careers. The secondary one meant I could work with people on an individual level. Like the Beatles once said (was it George Harrison) you CAN have a revolution in your head. I know too that people can change their lives by thinking differently. I know because I've witnessed it and have been part of the change. I decided that career was the best match for my idealism, such as it was. I couldn't change society - apart from helping some. few people. In that respect, change is possible. At a very local level. Politicians of all stripes do help countless people at a local level. It's where change, improvement, betterment , whatever you want to call it, can happen. It's just that the state should enable that to happen and NOT simply take services away leaving charities and the third sector to try and fill the holes. That is what the last 20 years at least have been like. It angers me even. In many sectors - the NHS, in local public services, you name it. So many people I know / knew worked in the third sector (community/ voluntary / charitable). They were / are motivated simply at helping people navigate the best they can through life. They are of the left and right wing (but probably more of the former). Politics ought to matter yes. At the end of the day the most you can do is try and enjoy life in the moment, treat 'death as an advisor' (Don Juan ...Castaneda reference here) and be your best for others and yourself, knowing that the things you do for others does matter. That includes being kind to all (despite often disagreeing with someone or not especially thinking you like their values). People will only change themselves when they are ready to. Politicians need to offer people a greater chance to do that. There are literally hundreds of things that can and ought to be done in that respect. We need a welfare safety net but more opportunities for people to change their outlooks. It ought not to be that where you are born (and live) impacts on your life chances quite so much. Maintaining that imbalance isn't good for society. Social mobility is vital. I understand that some will say folk need to get on their bikes. It's more complex than that because not everyone knows how to. If they did, then their lives would be better. Apologies, I'm unloading lots of thoughts and have gone on far too much. Will ensure that this is my single post for the day. (Once I start to write my mind goes off at tangents. I'm a terrible poster really being honest because posts are meant to be short on such a forum as this and I struggle with that. Odd that in real life I'm sort of quiet!).

I've nothing against a multipolar world (and the intrinsic reduction that implies in US hegemony) - would be a good idea - but the other 'poles' must respect human rights and the right to dissent as a bare minimum. Then the 'poles' would be friends with which we can happily compete and on occasion disagree. That excludes both Russia and China as currently governed. Antipathy or outright hostility to the US or western governments by some is clearly misplaced if you could not make the same public statements criticising their governments in Russia, China, Iran etc. Be thankful you live in an enlightened society despite all its imperfections and still striving to do better.

'my club' Come on Dan. What on earth does that mean? Is your club better than my club of Delia and Michael's club? I don't dislike Webber. Some of the stuff he says I wouldn't say myself. But some of the stuff you say I wouldn't say myself. If he's the board's choice to carry on you're stuck with him. If they decide to sack him then we will have to hope the new person is as good or better. It's going to be a long summer if they don't sack him. If they do we have to hope it's Adams because there's no time to tear it up and start again for this summer. What do you hope for?

I once worked for a rather bullying female boss called Evelyn. Most people referred to her as Mrs. Tent but I preferred to call her Mrs. Carnate.

Sooo much hate. One of you will go off pop before long...