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Not really I’ve got better things to do than get in a debate with a sexist dinosaur who is getting all upset because they mistook a headline about women’s football to be about men’s football…how awful. But I would add that I coached my daughter’s football team for a number of years and it was great to see how much joy they got out of playing a sport that historically had been closed off to them. I saw the game and skill level improve dramatically in that time. So the more exposure the women’s game gets and the more it annoys people like you the better as far as I’m concerned!

Can you guys just grind your axes via DM or something? It is tiresome watching the same lot of you derail thread after thread with personal arguments.

I wouldn't object, I wouldn't give a flying ****. When the Six Nations are on, there's a solid group of people who love it and want to watch it, and good on em, I don't expect everyone to like all the stuff I like and dislike all the stuff I dislike. If it pops up on my social media, I can, wait for it.......scroll past. And to be fair, it is rammed down your throat during the Six Nations with TV adverts and regular slots on 5 Live when the tournament is on. So what? And remember, the Lionesses Euros Final attracted a UK audience of 17.4 million. The Rugby World Cup Final that England reached managed a peak of 12.8 million, so don't give me anything about how Rugby has more appeal. The Emirates has hosted 40,000 plus fans several times this season for women's games, as has Stamford Bridge. 5,000 and counting and going to turn out at Carrow Road for a pretty meaningless league fixture in the 4th tier of women's football. The record ever attendance at Coventry City FC's football stadium is currently held by a Lionesses fixture in a friendly tournament. In less than a couple of weeks, Wembley will be sold out for a women's international friendly. I'm a grassroots football coach and whilst I coach my son's U10s team, the last two Saturdays I have had to fill in for another coach to take a Wildcats sessions (girls aged 5-10). A couple of years ago, if you asked these girls who their favourite player is most would have said Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe, etc. Now it's Hemp, Russo, Williamson. And that's brilliant. But lets forget about kids getting new role models (generally much better role models than male footballers) that they feel a closer affinity to because a few blokes don't like the headline on BBC Sport being about a women's match when it could be reporting on men. Classic what about men. This really belongs on a creepy, incely reddit thread rather than the PinkUn.

Just seen my first local Bullfinches (6) and heard the first Chiffchaff of the spring. Apples

I never suggested that you did. It was used in the MFW article, subsequently amended to reflect what actually happened. As I’ve mentioned before, the Club will have to declare the issue of the shares, via Companies House, once it’s happened. That will include details of the allotment price. No doubt that will be the cue for much gnashing of teeth and another lengthy thread, doubtless with endless digs at the Club. Looking forward to it already!

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"They're not a charity" was a reference to the fact that the decisions Sky make are primarily to make money for Sky, either in the short term or the long term. Ultimately they're not supporting women's football out of the goodness of their hearts; they're trying to get more viewers. Women's football is clearly growing in popularity. It would be strange, frankly, if companies like Sky weren't pushing it and trying to get more eyeballs on their services. I'm guessing they have a lot of analytics and data which feeds into their decisions. The fact that they're showing it on their main prime-time football channels suggests that they think that strategy will be optimal for them financially.

The women game is rammed down everyone throat by the media not because it’s the same level as the men’s. It’s because it’s the right thing to do to promote the sport. Women’s or Girls football has a massive future as a mass participation sport. All the pitches and infrastructure is already in place you just need promote it and that’s what the media job is essentially.

Women's football soared in popularity after England won the euros. The fact that Sky are covering suggests people want to watch. They're not a charity.

Can't argue with the last sentence.

What makes me smile is the women's football wants to be recognized in it's own right, which is fair enough, but the media and all puts them on the mens games' coat tails. Can't have both.

As a modern male I'm usually too busy doing housework, laundry, ironing, shopping, cooking or hoovering when Women's football is on.....

If you don't like it don't watch it. If you don't like it and rant about it on an Internet message board, get a life. I can't stand Rugby Union, but I don't **** my pants and weep over my computer's keyboard when I see a Six Nations result on the BBC.

You've gone on a multiparagraph rant because the sky sports app showed you the result of a women's game. I bet you also call people snowflakes.

Just opened the Sky Sports app to see the top headline: "Liverpool held by Everton after confusion over disallowed goal". "International break isn't it?" I thought to myself before reading a couple more lines and realising it wasn't men's football but the NEW men's football - WOMEN's football. It's everywhere. Sky and BBC have clearly made policy decisions to report on games just like men's results, mentioning player's names like they're household names - "Yeah, you know Lisa McFootballer and Jess Van Soccer, they're lionesses, of course they are". Well, if I want to watch a women's match or find out a score (I don't want to do either) I can look it up thanks very much. Unfortunately, as is the way with modern media, it's front-loaded on every possible platform so there's no bleeding escape from it. How about WE (the media) tell YOU (the public) what you're supposed to like? We've gotten pretty good at it over the years. The current thing to push will be, erm, I know - women in football! Let's report on it, and get female commentators in and then make them celebrity's so they can go on to host games shows. Great idea! Aren't we so inclusive - high five! My problem is not actually with women playing football - fine! Enjoy, be an inspiration for youngsters, make a career of it, a legend in women's football, whatever. My problem is that the standard is utter dross. I've tried watching a few games and have had to turn it off after a few minutes. The goalkeeping is comical, watching them dive over the top of a shot from 20 yards dribbling over the line at 3mph. "But women are not as physically strong and fast as men!" I hear you cry. Correct. Which is why their game is so poor in comparison. Point in case was the Australian Women's national team beaten 7:0 by a club team's 15 year olds in 2016. Highlights the HUGE difference in quality and the reason I just can't bare to watch it. Touchy subject I know. I'll await the deluge of accusatory replies from those who manage girl's teams and who actually champion women's football for their own reasons. Not for me though. COYY

When you say do the job properly, what does that look like? Actually getting their finger out of their **** and assessing asylum claims? We have a hotel near us that’s being used to house asylum seekers. Far right groups arranged a protest demonstration and ended up being hugely outnumbered by a counter-demonstration. 😂

They use the word "woke" as when you call it what it really is, namely "basic empathy", it shows instantly where the problem is.

Ha! I tend to mirror your thoughts here Herman. I asked Horsefly, politely, and his reaction was that I was merely mistaken, no outrage or overt indignation or over the top defensive reply either, so yeah, unless an extremely clever individual, not one and the same.

My mum organised a coach from Attleborough. On the Monday she also organised a reception for the team as they returned to Norwich outside the High School, getting the kids to line the street as she knew when it was due to pass by (this was before the bypass). Ken Brown was so impressed as they passed he got the driver to stop and they all got off the coach and posed with the cup with everyone for photographs. An example of a great connection with the fans.

My personal gripe is that the media is now covering women's football at the expense of lower level football, offering them yet another excuse not to cover the likes of Port Vale or Rochdale, clubs which are being left to rot by the press, both offline and online, and also by the football authorities who are supposed to be their representatives. Even 'leftist' papers such as The Guardian which would once have supported a working-class sport are now abandoning it outside of the PL (and believe me clubs like Norwich will be next). It's no surprise nor coincidence that most of the women's teams are big clubs - Man U or Arsenal and the like. OK, I know at the grass roots this is not always the case - for example, Hastings United gives equal space to its women's team on their website - but it's a general trend towards the big name clubs and away from local sides based in a smallish community. This is all part of the discarding of the history of the game in this country for the big international clubs. I guess this is historical change and I'm probably pis*sing in the wind, but the game which many of us on here grew up with is close to collapse, and the powers that be - both in football and in the media - are helping to stab it in the heart in their relentless greed for money and power.

A company promotion meant I moved from Norwich to Manchester in 1983. Hence I went to Wembley, with a Norwich supporting colleague also from Norwich who was promoted to Kendal, with tickets obtained from the match referee, who was based in Manchester & couldn't give his ticket allocation away! Due to this, our tickets were in the Sunderland end. I have several particular memories of that day. My friend & I had made our support for City clear throughout the match & at the final whistle suddenly feared for our safety. We needn't have worried. Several Sunderland fans came up to us, congratulated us & gave us their scarfs! On leaving the ground I bumped into the person who had taken over my job in Norwich two years earlier. What are the chances of that happening in a 100,000 crowd? On the M1 going home to Manchester the motorway was choked with traffic, cars & coach after coach of Sunderland supporters, to the extent that we travelled all the way to Birmingham in one continuous traffic jam. Didn't go above 25 mph or get out of 2nd & 3rd gear. The look of complete misery on the Sunderland faces made us extremely grateful that we had won & did not have to make the excruciatingly slow journey home knowing we had lost. A never to be forgotten day. Would have been nice to have won an FA cup or two since then but I console myself with the knowledge that, for arguably, our biggest ever win, I was there!

Just for some context on how much these woke snowflakes are ramming their agenda of WOMEN PLAYING FOOTBALL HOW DARE THEY down your throats. In Sky next weekend you can ONLY watch a PITIFUL 12 games of mens football from a MEASLY 3 different countries. In comparison it is wall to wall NON STOP WOMAN BALL as Sky show a positively decadent 2 WHOLE GAMES of women's football from one league. Honestly it is a wonder a good honest man can avoid this constant coverage of ladies kicking balls around.

The annoying thing is that you get women's football scores/results often now without saying its women's football. This is clearly misleading. No objections to women's football at all, or the reporting of it, but if its going to be alongside the men's game, like tennis, they will have to call it mens football and ladies football from now on, not just football.

The more things change the more they stay the same - people convinced modern life is conspiring against them. Fk it, I say pour women’s football all over my eyeballs, I want to see more to fk the old guard off. Makes me laugh how y’all get so annoyed at change. : D

The question I would pose is - how is women's football likely to thrive without some kind of media broadcasting behind it? Especially when considering that the reason it's such a change to us in the UK was because the FA back in the 1920s were basically jealous of the success of some women's teams (D/ick, Kerr Ladies in particular) in pulling big crowds. Is the standard going to be as good? Nope. Is it entertaining? Sure is. Hardly any simulation, players genuinely competing for every ball without trying to basically cheat and not much sign of any prima-donna antics. I quite enjoy watching it, but I do have to bear in mind that it's not possible for women to physically be on the same level as equivalent pro men, and also that professional football for women is very much in its infancy. And when I bear those in mind, I find it a very enjoyable watch and hope more will see it for what it is. Not the same standard as men's football, but proof that women can play the game, and indeed play it quite well.

Lol. Morty still living rent free in some posters heads. He 100% doesn’t have any accounts on here anymore

Kladno won 11-1. Emphatic start

The level of support/interest in relation to how and where it is covered on TV for example. Soccer AM is being cancelled due to the perceived level of interest. I wonder how women's football would compare? I think that's the nub of the OPs argument.

The problem is I can't see these nuances you keep talking about. The argument seems to be, I don't think women's football is very good and it pisses me off that it gets coverage. What subtleties are we all missing?

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I quite like it

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Absolutely brilliant day out on my 21st birthday with my then girlfriend who went on to be my first wife. Would have made her pay for her own ticket had o been able to see into the future 😀😀

The one and only.

Get back to the 1970s.

Maybe its revenge, we ' ruined ' wee Billy and theyre gonna ruin Alex Matos.... because they can.

Didn't see Cambridgeshire post this, so here it is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65050364

Our local only gets Roger Dee and his Karaoke. Roger Clemo used to play but he got done for drink driving. Neither aretight with BB King and will never have heard of Joe.

It is worth noting that fans habitually remember the good things a player does and - particularly if that player is a wide player - do not factor in sufficiently the weaknesses of said player in a defensive, structural or strategic sense. Plusvalenza is an Italian term meaning ‘the net result of the good things, subtracted from the bad things’. Frankly there are players that fans love who would record a negative score. Onel - sadly - would too often be one of them. On the other hand a player who can be absolutely relied upon to do what he does, who will do it every week, who perhaps also adds other unseen psychological or team elements - let’s say MacLean - may well get picked consistently by successive managers of different approaches…precisely because he is at least a zero score as a plusvalenza. I do not wish to criticise anyone or spoil their love for players, though coaches must see far beyond the occasional spurt of something good that leads to a goal (or not). They must weigh this against all the wayward passes that cause turnovers that lead to chances and goals, the difficulty in keeping the player in suitable defensive positions at certain ‘fixed points’ in the game (a vital coaching instruction), the lack of awareness - that fans don’t see, but a MacLean has to cover for (perhaps to the detriment of his own job) - …that is what coaches are constantly calculating… …they simply do not have the luxury of remembering …’that goal he set up alway at Luton last October…that’s what he can do!….’… Parma

Don’t particularly love or hate rock music but rock guitar solos don’t do anything for me. Punk rock is another matter though-the guitar solos in No More Heroes and Something Better Change for example are great, without seeming self-indulgent.

Only about the brand of mustard, I hope you mean.

Some people ARE snowflakes. Anyone ever discussed the Body density of black people with someone under 30...and the effect that has on their prospects of being top class swimmers? ...i did, and was met with " you cant say that"... despite it being a fact. I had to resort to finding a Guardian( see what i did there) article called something like " tbe uncomfortable truth"to calm said offended youngster down... they still werent happy though.....didnt fit their view of the world. Now there are other factors such as lack of acces to training facilities etc but a fact remains a fact.

Not quite as black and white as that KC. Multi-paragraph rant, I grant you. It's as much about being force-fed someone else's agenda as it is the poor quality of women's football (in my opinion of course). Sky Sports app this morning just a trigger, not my sole reason for ranting.