Canary Jedi 579 Posted September 21, 2021 To be fair we couldn’t defend well in the Championship we always looked dodgy but didn’t have the quality opposition to punish us. So shouldn’t really be a surprise. The issue is not being able to score more than the opposition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,343 Posted September 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Van wink said: Thats my 180 quid down the Swanee We only need three......where's your faith ? 🙂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,985 Posted September 21, 2021 Consider a substitution or wait until they go 3.0 up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,519 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: In all serious we could try 6 at the back in the next game? Get Kabak on, he could’ve marked Origi for that header while Omobamidele marked 5 yards ahead, Hanley marked 2 yards ahead and Gibson marked 2 yards behind. Try scoring a header us then!! Personally I would have Omobamidele and Kabak as the CB pairing. Hope that is what shakes out. They're younger and look to read the game better. I've never been convinced by Hanley or Gibson. Okay in the Championship but look to be slow in thought in the PL. That said, Omobamidele hasn't had this best evening (nor Mumba yet) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 242 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, canarydan23 said: He hasn't, he was a big part in getting us promoted which more than covered his fee, which I believe we were obliged to pay on going up. But the evidence suggests he's certainly not Premier League standard. That might be so, but as you say he is not up-to the Premier league based on performances to date Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,319 Posted September 21, 2021 Something is fundamentally wrong with how they train/drill the defence. If indeed they do. every time we have any momentum in a game our defence conspires to concede an utterly s**t schoolboy level goal and it undermines everything. It actually looks to me like we are marking zonally at all times, not just set plays.we always have loads of defenders there. it’s pathetic and embarrassing and is ruining our season. If Farke can’t sort it then Webber needs to step in and recruit a defence coach or sack him. There have actually been some signs of promise tonight but now it’s all been undone because international centre backs can’t f**king mark properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertociNCFC 98 Posted September 21, 2021 I honestly don't even blame individuals in our defence, this has been a problem for all of Farkes teams aside from last years, there is something really wrong with how our defence is coached or something because our positioning at times is absolutely laughable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 191 Posted September 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, lake district canary said: No pressure on the man with the ball, Liverpool just given thhe freedom of the park. Poor goal to concede. No, no, no, we just haven’t gelled yet!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoolahoop14 124 Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “Premier League” team look so bad defensively, it’s painful to watch and I don’t think we have the personnel or the know-how to fix it. Edited September 21, 2021 by Hoolahoop14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Midlands Yellow said: Consider a substitution or wait until they go 3.0 up? Why there is another 30 minutes left?😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,767 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, kirku said: This is ****ing depressing Aye, you just hope we'd have a good game, and this was the perfect opportunity, to kick start the season and get confidence up a bit. But here we are again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 513 Posted September 21, 2021 Maybe it's the wine that make me whine but this not good enough. The defending is very very poor and our finishing is unacceptable. A rethink is needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 527 Posted September 21, 2021 2-0 down, no subs. Its a cup game that gives players a chance to get minutes under their belts. C'mon Farke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,343 Posted September 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Anyone want a season ticket for the rest of the season? £300. I get it back next season. You'll need to pay more than that. 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,310 Posted September 21, 2021 The problem in training is..... that they're practicing defending against our toothless forward force 😂😂😂😉😉😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted September 21, 2021 I thought last year we were meant to be bedding in a system that would make us more solid and better prepared for the Prem. Turns out it we just lucked into having Skipp for a year. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, sonyc said: Personally I would have Omobamidele and Kabak as the CB pairing. Hope that is what shakes out. They're younger and look to read the game better. I've never been convinced by Hanley or Gibson. Okay in the Championship but look to be slow in thought in the PL. That said, Omobamidele hasn't had this best evening (nor Mumba yet) I'm not sure it actually matters who plays where at the back. I have this horrible feeling that, as a team, we don't understand how to defend at this level. It's not Harry Potter levels of magic unlocking our defence; it's Paul bloody Daniels. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,400 Posted September 21, 2021 Where do we go from here? Beaten convincingly by Liverpool reserves. Poor finishing, poor defending, zero confidence, no obvious tactic, too many options none much better than the last…I hate to say- cos I really like him- but it’s starting to look like DF is running out of road Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 519 Posted September 21, 2021 Sick of this. Every -- single -- game we look pathetic. He's got Everton and Brighton and that's it from me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWC 240 Posted September 21, 2021 Since when has Dave Stewart from the Eurythmics been on Liverpool’s coaching staff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Declan 24 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Disco Dales Jockstrap said: I'm not sure it actually matters who plays where at the back. I have this horrible feeling that, as a team, we don't understand how to defend at this level. It's not Harry Potter levels of magic unlocking our defence; it's Paul bloody Daniels. OTBC Not a lot? I don't like it... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 191 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, The Bristol Nest said: Maybe it's the wine that make me whine but this not good enough. The defending is very very poor and our finishing is unacceptable. A rethink is needed. You are more than right there. From the very top to the very bottom! Farke and his coaching team are well out of their depth, and it shows! This is Liverpool’s second string ffs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: So who was supposed to be marking the zone right in the centre with the 6ft Liverpool forward in it?! Great question, and who knows. Probably Hanley, he looks the most clueless of the bunch. Edited September 21, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Herman said: Aye, you just hope we'd have a good game, and this was the perfect opportunity, to kick start the season and get confidence up a bit. But here we are again. Exactly. We're playing against a complete second/third string Liverpool, with 16 year old debutants, and *still* aren't competitive. It's shocking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 21, 2021 Commentator says the atmosphere is electric. In our case its static. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, kirku said: I thought last year we were meant to be bedding in a system that would make us more solid and better prepared for the Prem. Turns out it we just lucked into having Skipp for a year. Skipp wouldn't solve not being able to mark strikers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanadyan Kanary 121 Posted September 21, 2021 Need a new defensive coaching set up. We actually needed it 3 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 435 Posted September 21, 2021 If we can keep this down to two goals conceded, I think everyone on here has to agree that ‘three at the back’ can be considered a success…. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 1902 said: Skipp wouldn't solve not being able to mark strikers. That's not the point I was making Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 527 Posted September 21, 2021 Substitution!!!!!!! Oh, its Liverpool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites