littleyellowbirdie 3,140 Posted April 13 (edited) He gets plenty of criticism, so I think Wagner gets credit for today. He set us up to slow the game down and frustrate and the players delivered that very well. In the second half, I'd been thinking to myself that I was almost afraid we might score too early and bring them back to life. When the goal did come, it did feel like Preston started coming back to life; I'm really glad it happened late, although I suspect that may have been by accident rather than design. Hooijdonk's brief cameo, for all the running around, didn't suggest to me he's really ready to do a job yet, so using him as a time-wasting sub seemed pretty good. On the other hand, Rowe's introduction for the last 20 minutes seemed to come just when they were already losing a bit of steam; the moment he was on, Preston seemed to back off immediately. As for Rowe, brilliant work rate and effect from the off. Was hoping for a draw today, so this is epic. Especially with the other results in the league. Well done, Wagner, but especially well done Team for such determined defending in the first half especially. Edited April 13 by littleyellowbirdie 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted April 13 I thought we rode our luck - PNE really ought to have scored from the chances they had.....but we had chances too, but with a lot of poor finishing, many of our shots well off target. Still managed more on target than Preston though and deserved the win in the end - but it could easily have gone the other way. Rowe's introduction made all the difference, he is so lively on the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted April 13 The last half hour we were very comfortable and looked far more likely to win it. Great away support today too, chuffed for the fans. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City Stand Ultra 43 Posted April 13 42 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: He gets plenty of criticism, so I think Wagner gets credit for today. He set us up to slow the game down and frustrate and the players delivered that very well. In the second half, I'd been thinking to myself that I was almost afraid we might score too early and bring them back to life. When the goal did come, it did feel like Preston started coming back to life; I'm really glad it happened late, although I suspect that may have been by accident rather than design. Hooijdonk's brief cameo, for all the running around, didn't suggest to me he's really ready to do a job yet, so using him as a time-wasting sub seemed pretty good. On the other hand, Rowe's introduction for the last 20 minutes seemed to come just when they were already losing a bit of steam; the moment he was on, Preston seemed to back off immediately. As for Rowe, brilliant work rate and effect from the off. Was hoping for a draw today, so this is epic. Especially with the other results in the league. Well done, Wagner, but especially well done Team for such determined defending in the first half especially. It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 295 Posted April 13 How we gonna fit Sainz, Rowe, Sara and Nunez in the same team ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,140 Posted April 13 (edited) 4 minutes ago, City Stand Ultra said: It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away I think that's excessively harsh about the other night given that the players must have been completely knackered from the derby effort only a few days before. Edited April 13 by littleyellowbirdie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,212 Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, City Stand Ultra said: It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away 🤡 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BSEYELLOW 42 Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I think that's excessively harsh about the other night given that the players must have been completely knackered from the derby effort only a few days before. By dropping Barnes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 754 Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, City Stand Ultra said: It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away Talk about faint praise! Great win, tactics spot on. Rowe back and Sargent played nearly 90 mins and you have to come out will this negativity. What is it? You need to be proven right that when Sargent went off against Wednesday Wagner lied to cover up his bad call rather than Sargent feeling his ankle? Sad. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted April 13 9 minutes ago, Deptford Yellow said: How we gonna fit Sainz, Rowe, Sara and Nunez in the same team ? A nice problem to have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 57 Posted April 13 53 minutes ago, lake district canary said: I thought we rode our luck - PNE really ought to have scored from the chances they had.....but we had chances too, but with a lot of poor finishing, many of our shots well off target. Still managed more on target than Preston though and deserved the win in the end - but it could easily have gone the other way. Rowe's introduction made all the difference, he is so lively on the ball. Most games can so easily go the other way though with chances and it all about tucking them away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 914 Posted April 13 19 minutes ago, City Stand Ultra said: It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away Probably because he had half an hours rest on Tuesday. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 708 Posted April 13 18 minutes ago, Deptford Yellow said: How we gonna fit Sainz, Rowe, Sara and Nunez in the same team ? Drop Barnes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,791 Posted April 13 19 minutes ago, Deptford Yellow said: How we gonna fit Sainz, Rowe, Sara and Nunez in the same team ? Good problem to have! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,736 Posted April 13 26 minutes ago, Deptford Yellow said: How we gonna fit Sainz, Rowe, Sara and Nunez in the same team ? That’s a problem Wagner is dying to have. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 3,219 Posted April 13 42 minutes ago, BSEYELLOW said: By dropping Barnes. Or, heaven forbid, having a genuine threat from the bench. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BSEYELLOW 42 Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, Petriix said: Or, heaven forbid, having a genuine threat from the bench. I'm not saying we should, but that's the only way to play all of those mentioned. Sara in the hole, Sainz left, Rowe right, Nunez in CM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,765 Posted April 13 Yes, well managed, dominated possession. Their only real chances from set pieces. Frustrated them. Classic away performance. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrD66M 149 Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Deptford Yellow said: How we gonna fit Sainz, Rowe, Sara and Nunez in the same team ? Rowe instead of Barnes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035 Posted April 13 Hernandez may well be back fot the playoffs too. We 'might' actually have a bit of depth on the bench when (if) the playoffs come round... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 802 Posted April 13 1 hour ago, City Stand Ultra said: It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away In defence of Tuesday, remember that Sarge was touch and go for today-he is absolutely vital at the moment. Also yes he did 90 minutes, but we don’t have a midweek fixture this week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 4,272 Posted April 13 As much as I've been critical of Wagners approach away from home, I totally agree he got it right today 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 754 Posted April 13 24 minutes ago, Commonsense said: In defence of Tuesday, remember that Sarge was touch and go for today-he is absolutely vital at the moment. Also yes he did 90 minutes, but we don’t have a midweek fixture this week. Absolutely! Seems obvious we are trying to manage his workload and recovery time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,273 Posted April 13 36 minutes ago, mrD66M said: Rowe instead of Barnes Rowe will probably need to be eased in from the bench, even though he looked fully up for it today Let Barnes do the dirty work first to pave the way for the greater degree of pace and skill that Rowe offers. Also, starting with the Barnes/Sarge partnership is effective for now. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,273 Posted April 13 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said: Absolutely! Seems obvious we are trying to manage his workload and recovery time. Do these players require extensive painkillers just to perform? I should know. If so, I would expect them to be less detrimental to the body than when Ted MacDougall sensibly refused to be shielded by them. If you disguise pain with injections of these drugs, then more harm than good can be done. That's in intensive physical activity as far as I know. The painkiller regime in sport will have improved beyond recognition since Ted's days, it doesn't mean that masking pain to play can be quite dangerous even though they can be more accurate and targetted. Edited April 13 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,377 Posted April 13 Rowe should be the impact sub and Sara's better coming off the flank in that Buendia-esque position. That said, where's Kamara going to fit next season? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted April 13 I would say this has been a well managed season. Injuries put paid to any auto challenge. But the way those injuries have been managed has brought about a play off challenge. I’ve praised the fitness of this squad for months but we should also praise the fitness team who have consistently got players back from injury early. Helped by the much derided ‘swimming pool’. And Wagner who has clearly stuck to the fitness plans which have given us every chance of some success at the end of this 46 game slog. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted April 13 Agree I thought we managed that second half today as well as we have managed any game away from home this season. Nice also to be able to bring some pace and attacking threat off the bench rather than the substitutions making us less threatening. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nik Vawn 344 Posted April 13 We always looked the better footballing side and deservedly won the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,140 Posted April 13 43 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: I would say this has been a well managed season. Injuries put paid to any auto challenge. But the way those injuries have been managed has brought about a play off challenge. I’ve praised the fitness of this squad for months but we should also praise the fitness team who have consistently got players back from injury early. Helped by the much derided ‘swimming pool’. And Wagner who has clearly stuck to the fitness plans which have given us every chance of some success at the end of this 46 game slog. Yup. Listening to the CG on Radio Norfolk in the run up to the game, when he laid out just how bad we've had it on injuries, I thought that it's really quite remarkable we're in the fight at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites