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It was well managed in that despite his previous tendencies he decided to actually keep our best player on the pitch (funny how Sarge was able to do 90 mins today) football is indeed a simple game. Me thinks Wagner finally realised the total disaster he created on Tuesday and even he knew not to do it again. So from that aspect well managed - pity about the other numerous matches we have thrown away

you are missing the point. Everybody wants him to play. Twice, he has been so injured (according to Wagner) that he needed to come off early in the game. The decision appeared tactical/game management/player protection in both cases and when it blew up in his face Wagner stated that Sargent couldnt continue in both cases yet both following Saturdays he started which seems a little fortuitous. Its the glass half full / half empty scenario. If you think Wagner is great then its a situation he couldnt control and hes lucky Sargent has been fit, if you think Wagner's game management is terrible you believe he has screwed up numerous games with poor subs and decisions and Tuesday was just another example. My own view - it blew up in his face on Tuesday and he used the Sarge inury to claim his hand was forced

what injury? the one Wagner used as his reason for not keeping sarge on the field Tuesday I think many people suspect he was thinking we are 2-0 up got another game lets give him a rest but that it backfired spectacularly and then he used the same injury excuse hes used before instead of simply saying "i wanted to protect him but it didnt work out and i hold my hands up"

Do you think tactically it was a success to have our best striker chasing down Leicester centre backs 30 yards from our own goal or persisting with immobile old man Barnes in a similar even deeper role or would we have been better off keeping Sargent much further forward and relieving the pressure on our defence ?? Also with Moore unlikely to play against us next week I would much rather have McLean at centre back than Duffy who is a complete and utter liability at the back. I am also fearful for mcallum if we play the narrow back 4 we did today. Will invite their overlapping fullbacks and expose him again

what is your issue with "low post counts". it's about quality not quantity You have racked up 5.5k and I'm still waiting for the first one to provide any insight (albeit I freely admit i havent bothered to go back and read the first 5k). That's a hell of a lot of your and (others) time wasted....

A broken clock is right twice a day je ne regrette rien

Failing to win 4 of the last 6 Championship games whilst scoring less than a goal a game is another way to look at it. With an added aggravating factor that the the last match provided season lows for shots and shots on target. Id class that as worrying as we have a virtually injury free and fresh squad to pick from. Depends if your glass is half full or half empty. I guess in happy clapper class it's half full

Depends if losing and having only 5 shots (only 3 teams have had less at Leeds this season) and 1 shot on target (only 1 team has had less) is a reason for celebration or despair. I'm old school - losing and offering little up front is v worrying. I saw defensive improvements but nothing at the top end of the pitch to spark optimism

Oh the irony 😂 "I'm doing something because someone suggested it was a waste of mine" What a tool !

Exactly - self serving rubbish Maybe they all meet up and someone shouts "who is Pateman?" and 1 by 1 they shout back "I am Pateman!" in some kind of Spartacus parody

For anyone thinking of wasting 2 mins of your life by reading the Joe Pateman column on Pink Un - don't bother Not sure why Archant published this tripe - I'll précis the main thrust of the piece "I'm a great fan cos I've been to plenty of away games and that trumps anyone else's opinion". What a load of ****e Joe - don't ever try for a career in journalism you have no talent for it

Our lineup v Rovers should include no starters expected to play v Leeds and WBA In the the bigger picture a 3rd round replay and taking hiding at Liverpool in 4th round serves no purpose so play the B team and if they win fine they all get to play again at Liverpool but while we have a chance of playoffs we cant afford games like Bristol Rovers and Liverpool and injuries to first teamers

Moved to this thread as seems more relevant to the Knapper discussion - context from Feedthewolf comment was in response to my observations that Knapper had started being abused by fans in the City Stand and I laid into Knapper somewhat ungraciously. My response below Perhaps it is a little harsh and i don't expect him to react in any other way than to perhaps consider why people are already turning their ire on him. The answer is simple. The complete lack of communication from him is concerning to fans who expected to see the new person hit the ground running and change the sense of decline and torpor around the club. In any professionally run organisation I would have expected him to have mapped out a timetable upon starting of what he expected to achieve in the first x days and publish this to all stakeholders (of which fans are a key and crucial group). Having conducted this process several times myself (in different exec roles) I would have expected him within the first two weeks to have engaged with representatives from all stakeholders and have asked those stakeholders to come prepared with their views and thoughts on the key challenges and opportunities the club were facing. Certainly within 30 days I would have expected a strategy to have been made public so that everyone is clear on the direction of travel and some roadshows to gather that all important buy-in with supporting appearances from the board and other senior execs. If you cant discern the issues and corrective action plan within 30 days the organisation is in an even bigger world of pain! From my perspective I see absolutely no engagement with the fan base apart from patronising comments from Delia and club sources about how Delia deigns to appear with the "little people" before the games as if that substitutes for proper fan engagement and opinion forming. Again most customer facing organisations routinely gather their customers views as to how the organisation is performing. Perhaps he is busy whizzing away on his powerpoint deck and I'm going to be blown away by what I see but I am extremely fearful we have hired a guy who has precisely no experience of the much wider and much more strategically important role he is being asked to fill. No visible fan/customer engagement does not bode well nor does the radio silence around timetables for vision/strategy to be communicated The real evil (but not recently) genius Webber may have played his most hurtful card of all - saddling us with a guy he knows will not outshine him and doesnt have the gravitas or confidence to trash the legacy of recent years. The best way to ensure your legacy? Hire someone much worse than yourself

Responded on the Knapper thread

maybe that is because they realise long term persisting with Wagner is a pointless exercise. It wont be long before Knapper starts getting grief too. His Invisible Man routine is as woeful as Wagners tactics and selections. He was subject to some abuse from the City Stand at the end of the game and looks a gormless out of his depth rabbit in the headlights