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In the past when wanting managers to be sacked I've just got to the point of anger and on the verge of disliking the man in the hot seat.

Not really getting that this time, just feel a bit sad about the whole situation - the stars have just stopped aligning. 

I suppose its like those couples who both just realise that they've fallen out of love, and go their separate ways without anybody having an affair or anything, all amicable but with a deep sense of sadness about what could have been, just a realisation that they've reached the end of the road. 

Can't say I really get that with Webber, just Farke. I'm actively getting a bit fed up with Webber.

 

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Yeah it is sad to see the 'get out of my club' type tweets going around, it just seems horribly ungrateful for everything he's done here. It isn't nice to see and I hope it doesn't get dragged out for too long.

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Yeah I think that's the worst part. I don't even feel angry anymore. Just empty. Like, I know full well that I'm still going to be supporting us and hoping we do well as I have done all my life but.. You just know nothing is going to change.

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1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Yeah I think that's the worst part. I don't even feel angry anymore. Just empty. Like, I know full well that I'm still going to be supporting us and hoping we do well as I have done all my life but.. You just know nothing is going to change.

Things change all the time, stand back and look at the bigger picture.

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Yep was going to do a similar post myself TvB, but ironically I just didn’t have the stomach or energy to. I was angered after the Chelsea game but yesterday just sucked out all of my feelings and hope of any salvation for the season. Pure resignation, the reaction from the players at the end was heartbreaking too - looked like someone close to them had just died in front of them.

I also don’t even know if I want Farke out any more, it was clear the players were trying their best yesterday. Just nowhere near good enough. The final 30 mins were tragic.

When the boos briefly rang out on about 84 mins at Hanley passing back to Krul (again) it was quite saddening. How far we’ve fallen and so fast too.

God knows what the mood must be like behind the scenes this week. I guess a new face will be needed just for a fresh start, but there’s no way we’re getting out of this hole.

Main aim now is to get to 12 points, as sad as that sounds.

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7 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

In the past when wanting managers to be sacked I've just got to the point of anger and on the verge of disliking the man in the hot seat.

Not really getting that this time, just feel a bit sad about the whole situation - the stars have just stopped aligning. 

I suppose its like those couples who both just realise that they've fallen out of love, and go their separate ways without anybody having an affair or anything, all amicable but with a deep sense of sadness about what could have been, just a realisation that they've reached the end of the road. 

Can't say I really get that with Webber, just Farke. I'm actively getting a bit fed up with Webber.

 

Pretty accurate 

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I go between anger and sadness, anger on the match day but just really really sad in between

i wish Webber would bring it to a dignified end 

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Just now, Uncle Fred said:

I go between anger and sadness, anger on the match day but just really really sad in between

i wish Webber would bring it to a dignified end 

Try kicking your garage door. It always works wonders for me.

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The people who can try to solve the current crisis are oblivious to it sadly. They wonder why the club is a laughing stock within the media, well the answer is simple, they are wearing blinkers thinking it will all come good under Farke when it’s just gets worse game by game

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16 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Can't say I really get that with Webber, just Farke. I'm actively getting a bit fed up with Webber.

That's probably as Webber has been non-committal about staying with us, he's basically airing his services in public to see if there's any suitors. 

Farke seems happy and devoted to doing his best here, and it's very hard to have anger or dislike towards a man who's committed to the cause.  It's the pain that he and his team aren't good enough which brings us sadness.

I don't know why staff internal to Farke hasn't been refreshed, or someone brought in with experience and maybe a tougher edge to them to rattle things up and put some fight into us. 

The bench sat and watched Kabak giving the ball away in the first half through his own desire to run up the field with the ball, he should've been roasted for it.  You don't sit idle when that's occurring, and it ultimately lead to us losing.  That's the fine margins we face and do nothing about, If they managed a ducks **** it'd be sat at the bottom of Diss Mere.

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Yep it is sad, but its up to the club and Daniel if they want it to get nasty. I won't take much more of this dross before I won't care how much crap gets thrown at him. 

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I’m sad at how it’s ending but I’m angry that we’re just letting it slide even further rather than pulling the trigger now while we still have a chance to turn things around this season. I’ll be livid if we stick with him and next season things are poor because we won’t get another chance like the ones we’ve had recently to go up and stay up.

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Ironic that the advertisement that keeps flying across the screen should be offering Counselling for people in Norwich obviously aimed at NCFC supporters 

 

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It's extremely sad, and I struggle to feel anything other than embarrassment and resignation when it comes to the football.

The worst thing is that Farke would be exactly the sort of manager you would want to sign in our circumstances given his history in the Championship, and bringing someone else in could be a real risk given the tragic state of our squad. Our "glass ceiling" runs far deeper than that, and perhaps a case of careful what you wish for, but unfortunately when you lose the fans there has to be someone who takes the blame.

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i am Sad Farke is a top bloke and has done a lot for us 

But the more Farke and Webber talk to the media the worse it gets 

if both went i would be quite happy 

Farke due to his PL Record and Webber for his signings This season 

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I am sad for him, because like many others on here feel the same as I do, he's a top, top guy and has worked wonders during his time here. I don't want him to go, but need things to change as we cannot carry on being the ridicule of the Premier League. If we had won just once this season, the situation would be a hell lot different, but stretching back into last time in the Prem Farke's record is absolutely abysmal. Even if you have a terrible squad, you'd still pick up some points by giving it a good go. Norwich just seem completely incapable of looking dangerous which sounds absolutely ridiculous given our incredible performances last season. Yes we've lost Buendia and Skipp, but we've still got plenty of attacking talent available and shouldn't be performing like we are.

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It seems that sacking the manager would make certain people extremely sad and that's why we never make these tough decisions until its far too late. Its hardly a ruthless kneejerk decision. 

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People talk about clubs being in crisis, and it's usually an overreaction, but I think this is a major crisis for NCFC and that's why the primary emotion is sadness not anger. 

As all the other threads demonstrate, we need to face the fact that either DF isn't good enough, which, given what he's done for the club, and what a great guy he is, is a terrible realisation. Or that our summer recruitment wasn't good enough, which means that whatever happens with the coach we've got smug pr1cks on MotD taking the pi$s out of us for another 28 games (or worse, pitying us). Or that the self-funding model just can't work in the amoral cesspit of the PL. Or all three. It really is very, very sad.

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Although there were a few boos at the final whistle yesterday, I still don't think Farke has lost the crowd. I think most people can see that, again, what he has to work with is just not good enough.

What was clear yesterday is that our players are simply not of PL quality. Leeds are a very poor PL team, who will struggle this year. They showed very little other than organisation and hard work, but they had the one matchwinner on the pitch. We worked hard enough, but organisationally were all over the place and had no one in our team or on our bench to win us a game.

You can blame whoever you want, but £8m and £9m does not buy you PL players anymore. It is possible that a new coach would get a bit more out of some of them, but unlikely that would be enough for us to win enough games.

Where Farke has to be careful is by staying honest. Saying after the game that we were on top and that we have had a lot of praise for our football this season is just untrue, and supporters will see through this type of guff pretty quickly. We never looked like winning yesterday and we haven't looked like winning any game yet - given that we have never been in front in 10 games, that is pretty flaming obvious.

We will, I am sure, win a couple of games and the record 11 points will be beaten comfortably, but we have no chance of survival. None whatsover. You could put any manager in the world in charge of these players and they will still get relegated.

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Its always sad but inevitable that coaches get sacked. I like DF but I liked Chris Hughton and Alex Neil seemed a decent bloke. And for a while it left a nasty taste but after a few days and the replacement came in, it was over.

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Sadness because the Farke revolution seems to be over.  Championship promotion with this bunch seems highly unlikely no creativity, poor defensively and an attack that cannot score.  Will need new players but little chance of purchasing them with the self funding ideology.

I'd give it 3 seasons of Championship football without PL riches or parachute money or big fees for stars whose value is declining until the financial position of the club will become untenable.  

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35 minutes ago, pete said:

Sadness because the Farke revolution seems to be over.  Championship promotion with this bunch seems highly unlikely no creativity, poor defensively and an attack that cannot score.  Will need new players but little chance of purchasing them with the self funding ideology.

I'd give it 3 seasons of Championship football without PL riches or parachute money or big fees for stars whose value is declining until the financial position of the club will become untenable.  

Rubbish. This team would walk the championship. 

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13 minutes ago, astro said:

Rubbish. This team would walk the championship. 

Remember that 3 Premier League sides will go down this year, and we're likely to be going down as 3rd best.

I see a creeping complacency amongst a section of our fans, who take an instant return for granted. 

If the bottom 3 remained as it is, why is it that you think it would be us walking the Championship and not Burnley or Newcastle? 

 

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4 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

In the past when wanting managers to be sacked I've just got to the point of anger and on the verge of disliking the man in the hot seat.

Not really getting that this time, just feel a bit sad about the whole situation - the stars have just stopped aligning. 

I suppose its like those couples who both just realise that they've fallen out of love, and go their separate ways without anybody having an affair or anything, all amicable but with a deep sense of sadness about what could have been, just a realisation that they've reached the end of the road. 

Can't say I really get that with Webber, just Farke. I'm actively getting a bit fed up with Webber.

 

agree with this, I guess at least we've made him a millionaire as he didn't have some big **** career before ours. Hope he enjoys the compo, he's earned it for the 2 promotions.

I think it's just unfair to keep him around now, the job is untenable. Time to accept relegation yet again, bring in some old dude to steady things for the season or just give the gig to Neil Adams and develop a winning side for next season to do it all again.

Until we find external backing, establishing ourselves at this level will be basically impossible, especially with the expansive football we play. Maybe time to go back to basics there as well. Doesn't have to be fully awful brexitball but a bit more direct and a more all action striker to build our talented attacking mids around.

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1 hour ago, Tetteys Jig said:

agree with this, I guess at least we've made him a millionaire as he didn't have some big **** career before ours. Hope he enjoys the compo, he's earned it for the 2 promotions.

He'll still feel some responsibility for losing the job of his coaching team though, who won't be quite as 'set' and won't be able to sit around unemployed for too long.

We also have to consider the very real possibility that Farke's next job won't be back in Germany as many seem to assume, it could be in the Championship and we could face a Farke team next season! 

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