TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) He's a bit of a meme footballer / media whipping boy. But he's also a Premier League and FA Cup winning 27-cap England international who can play centre back and defensive midfield, so can step out at any stage to switch from 3/5 to a 4 man defence, a fluidity which I presume Ajer was supposed to enable. Obviously we can't afford to take over his £75k a week contract, but his stock is low and he's not wanted at Man Utd, so could we tempt them and him by covering a third of that in a loan? Edited July 21, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 8,960 Posted July 21, 2021 You want to strengthen our weak squad with Phil Jones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Herman said: You want to strengthen our weak squad with Phil Jones? What was your opinion on Lingard 7 months ago, and how was that opinion formed? Yes, I do believe that Premier League winning 27-cap England International Phil Jones is a better centre back than Christophe Zimmermann. Any other stupid questions? Edited July 21, 2021 by TeemuVanBasten 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,253 Posted July 21, 2021 Phil Jones???? No thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walcombe canary 61 Posted July 21, 2021 Would sooner Corporal Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,632 Posted July 21, 2021 Prefer Phil Bilko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,329 Posted July 21, 2021 Wages might be a problem but I think he'd be a big improvement to the side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,327 Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Walcombe canary said: Would sooner Corporal Jones Don't panic, don't panic! Oh, too late I see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 3,534 Posted July 21, 2021 Him and Smalling were a couple of dozy ****s and the latter is available from Roma. Knows his way round a football pitch but not for us. Probably end up at Everton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 306 Posted July 21, 2021 He's 29 years old, has been virtually thrown on the Manchester United scrap heap, has won quite a few trophies and has 27 England caps. And people on here don't rate him. If he feels he has something to prove, what better way than by playing regularly in a team that needs defensive cover. If Messrs Webber/Farke want him and signed him, I wouldn't be upset. If they don't want him, fair enough. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 478 Posted July 21, 2021 It’s a decent shout in the Krul / Pukki mould though I’d say the wages would be an issue. He would have to take a 50kish pay cut to join a relegation battle. Begs the question are there anymore players out there who have performed well at premier league level who have fallen on hard times who we could sign? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 6,851 Posted July 21, 2021 My concern with Jones is injuries as much as anything- that is what seemed to totally stall his career. That combined with the wages would put me off. If we're looking at someone from Man U I'd be keen on Tuanzebe on loan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 6,851 Posted July 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: What was your opinion on Lingard 7 months ago, and how was that opinion formed? Yes, I do believe that Premier League winning 27-cap England International Phil Jones is a better centre back than Christophe Zimmermann. Any other stupid questions? It is a bit weird how some people seem to think 'not good enough for Man United so we shouldn't sign him!' He's become a bit of a punchline but, when fit, he's proven himself to be a more than capable defender at Premier League level. Smalling has revived his career at Roma and Jones may do somewhere else. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted July 21, 2021 Jones is a NW lad, he ain't coming over here anytime soon. If he wanted to play football (as opposed to pick up his wages) he will have many suitors a lot closer than us, so he doesn't have to live out of a suitcase at his age. Plus his wages, plus, I cannot see him fitting DF's profile of a player. Apart from that.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston 43 Posted July 21, 2021 No thanks . Not the way forward . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 8,587 Posted July 21, 2021 Feels like a Newcastle style signing where they sign him on a 5 year deal and he's injured for four of them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltesecanary 19 Posted July 21, 2021 Yes 10 years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 1,807 Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Not the worst suggestion ever put on this forum. Experience. I feel it is the kind of player John Bond would have gone for. I was surprised that he is still under thirty, with seemingly nothing and everything to prove. Edited July 21, 2021 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,412 Posted July 21, 2021 He hasn't played for well over a year and whilst it's too early to throw him on the scrapheap, I think it would be an expensive gamble even on a one-year loan. I wouldn't fancy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,057 Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, hogesar said: Feels like a Newcastle style signing where they sign him on a 5 year deal and he's injured for four of them. We should be careful throwing stones when we are standing in our Byram (and previously Jarvis) shaped glass house regarding injuries! Agree that it totally feels like a Newcastle signing though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,198 Posted July 21, 2021 Prefer Tuanzebe as he looks a fair bit faster, Jones would be an improvement defensively, but might not have the pace to pull it off in a Farke team. He did look a hell of a prospect starting out, but injuries have had a right go at him. Wouldn't be averse to giving Jones a go though if a deal was similar to what we did for Gibson where we cover some of his wages, and his international experience would be great for lads like Aarons and Cantwell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,285 Posted July 21, 2021 Dear God NO ! Injuries, wages and does he really fit our style of play ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 5,818 Posted July 21, 2021 No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,051 Posted July 21, 2021 5 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: What was your opinion on Lingard 7 months ago, and how was that opinion formed? Yes, I do believe that Premier League winning 27-cap England International Phil Jones is a better centre back than Christophe Zimmermann. Any other stupid questions? Didnt Phil Jones once head the ball on the floor as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,326 Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Rather have Phil Mitchell Edited July 21, 2021 by kirku Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted July 21, 2021 5 hours ago, king canary said: It is a bit weird how some people seem to think 'not good enough for Man United so we shouldn't sign him!' He's become a bit of a punchline but, when fit, he's proven himself to be a more than capable defender at Premier League level. Smalling has revived his career at Roma and Jones may do somewhere else. Capello rated him very highly, compared him to Hierro. If we signed Jones one of two things would happen: 1). We'd soon realise that he's shot to pieces, finished, on the beach. or... 2). He'd show the quality that made him a regular under Ferguson and Capello. Ensuring we have the right to terminate the loan in January would solve the first problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: He hasn't played for well over a year Similar applied to Krul and Gibson when we signed them. I mean yeah, its a gamble, he could be finished. But on the flipside, if he isn't finished then he'd show his quality outside of the big 6 (like Lingaard did!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 1,842 Posted July 21, 2021 I can’t see Jones dropping to play for us. If he wants football I’m sure there will be plenty of other clubs willing to pay more of his wages, he was never that bad of a player as people are making out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted July 21, 2021 4 hours ago, hogesar said: Feels like a Newcastle style signing where they sign him on a 5 year deal and he's injured for four of them. Well Tim Krul was a gamble after injury problems. That's the potential upside when we signed these players with injury records. Jarvis is what happens when it doesn't work out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,632 Posted July 21, 2021 The thing with Jones is his defending always seems a little desperate and last-ditch, suggesting he's often out of position. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
