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I thought the 'clear and obvious' was just in general play that they would intervene. However, all goals - as game changing - were checked as a matter of course. Whilst offside are also auto-checked, as they are a definite rather than being subjective; they either are onside or they are offside and therefore the clear and obvious does not apply.

Isn't this a good thing? The VAR officials politely suggests that the Ref take another look, he looks and decides if he made a mistake. If his decision after review influenced by the suggestion it could be wrong then he is weak willed and should not be in that position. It happens in Rugby all the time. I just don't get why we can't follow Rugby, give the Refs / VAR (TMO) microphones, listen to their conversations (on TV) and everything becomes much clearer and in theory less complaints. They still won't get it right 100% but it will be more transparent and invite less conspiracies.

Hernandez should have 100% been on prior to the sending off and the obvious replacement is either Cantwell, Buendia or Duda. I would have removed one of those; probably Emi, because, as good as he is with the ball, when we're winning, the likelihood that he will throw a strop when he gets tackled / fouled / lose the ball and not track back potentially outweighs his massive benefit of being magic with the ball. However, today, as others have said, Cantwell ran around all day and was one of the few to keep going full speed, even at the end. His running disrupted them and helped see the game out.

They were checking offside in the lead up. PS, seen it on TV and I wouldn't have given a red, even against our player.

He isn't the saviour who will single handedly deliver us, but he was certainly better than OK. I thought he was very good.

It both was and wasn't a red. In the current rules it was a red card, in what the rules should be - not over protecting a load of prima donna's who fall over and cry when they break a nail - it wasn't. Edit, I actually finished the sentence.

I agree. I can almost feel them thinking "here we go again" and dropping back as a result. I hope the result will mean we don't do that next time and can have a bit stronger confidence.

Thanks for the prediction Nostradamus. Any other expected results? Liverpool to win the league, England to reach the knock out but fail to win the Euro's!!

I don't doubt that by the rules, it was probably a red. That still doesn't mean I agree with the rules. It's a mans game, sometimes you get caught. Toughen up and stop rolling around the floor if someone breathes on you.

Agreed. Should have made a sub before that though and definitely, definitely, definitely should have got Hernandez on.

Hernandez, please Hernandez.

It's a mans game. He slid in, didn't get the ball so is a stupid challenge to make, but he didn't try to foul him, he didn't try to catch him. I can see why it was given, but I wouldn't have (even if it was a Bournemouth player on ours).

Not a red for me. Bad tackle but not a red. Maybe by the letter of the law it is, but I don;'t agree with it. Mis-timed, not malicious.

Awful finish. Awful.

Anyone else want Hernandez on shortly? They will inevitably start to come at us to try to get something and his pace will cause them troubles.