Fuzzar

Stop making things up.

Spurs, according to Forbes, are the eighth-ranked team in world football. Maddison scored 2 against the second ranked team just a week ago - strange you didn't bump this thread then. He's a regular in this Spurs side and has featured 7 times for England under Southgate - you never know we might have actually won something if he'd picked him more. We didn't define "very top" back in 2019, so this discussion is pretty pointless, but given you've (rather pettily IMO) trawled back and brought it up on the back of my comments re Crnac, I think it's not unfair to suggest that Maddison is in the elite of world football. And he did make the step up from Leicester (having won the FA Cup with them), with both Spuds and England. Anyway, do get back to me re the Pups on the other thread - it's for a very worthy cause after all..

Apologies accepted. I hadn't realised he'd lost his only ground duel, but that does help reinforce my view that he had a pretty poor match - I'd be surprised if the West Brom centre backs had had an easier game to that point in the season. I do think he's a talented young player, particularly currently suited to facing the goal rather than with his back to it. But I maintain we don't yet know what calibre of player we've got for the (record for us in the Champs) fee. So I think the club has pretty high expectations of him for both now and in the future - Hoff has intimated as much - and I'll be as delighted as the next fan if he fulfills them. So much so that, in addition to my current Pups pledge, I'll pay a fiver for every game against teams in the current top 6 in which he scores, if you do the same if he doesn't. That's 8 games, £40 between us, and I hope I pay the lot.

Crnac has done very well against the divsion's two highest goals-conceding teams in the last two games. However, I watched him in person lose every 50/50 challenge in the air and on the deck last week against West Brom, in a generally ineffective performance. For clarity, I do not wish to join Hoggy's Crnac club. But, the exact calibre of player we've got for our £8.5m can surely only be judged over a full season, with all quality of opposition played, while, of course, accepting King's mitigations.

A few unnecessary hairy moments, but a very good performance albeit against limited opposition.

Not a particularly happy hunting ground recently for us - am travelling more in hope than expectation.

Feel this is in part the fall out from the Cardiff game. We put a lot into that performance for no reward.

Regulation save for a half decent keeper. Need we say more?

Gordon and Schwartau both looking ineffective so far.

Really gutting defeat - snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Was that Forson **** ting around with it in the box?

How on earth have we f ucked this?

Hanley on. Gulp.

Especially impressive since we're missing so many key players.

Provided we keep our concentration at the back, we should be able to get at least a point here.