Who do you want as the next manager?

[Fen Canary 1,450]

27 minutes ago, Indy said:

We have pretty much that now but these less than savoury characters in Duffy & Barnes are what you get! Old tired best days behind them, it’s the daftest thing I’ve read that you’d rather watch a Wimbledon type style of play which never came close to winning the top flight than a current Arsenal style pushed a billion pound Man City squad all the way to a final game! 
Not a grand argument in my book.

I specifically said I wouldn’t want to watch their style of play, again you’re arguing against a point I’ve never made.

10 hours ago, Google Bot said:

No, but it's well known that players and staff treat each other well and there's respect and focus on bringing through young players.  All good values for a sporting director and head coach to share at a club like this 

This is what I was replying to. Ignoring the bit about bringing through the youth (which I do agree with) my point was I couldn’t care less whether they're nice respectful people, they could spend all week kicking the $h1t out of each other at training for all I care, as long as they win on Saturday. I’d rather a team of nasty winners than one of nice losers 

[Indy 3,448]

39 minutes ago, Fen Canary said:

I specifically said I wouldn’t want to watch their style of play, again you’re arguing against a point I’ve never made.

This is what I was replying to. Ignoring the bit about bringing through the youth (which I do agree with) my point was I couldn’t care less whether they're nice respectful people, they could spend all week kicking the $h1t out of each other at training for all I care, as long as they win on Saturday. I’d rather a team of nasty winners than one of nice losers 

Fair enough Fen, but I’m not in your camp, Barnes & Duffy aren’t examples I’d want at my club to be honest their general game isn’t what this club is about.

[Mason 47 1,855]

5 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

You think the fans will accept finishing in the lower reaches of the league after sacking a manager who finished in the playoffs?

This is an interesting point worth discussing.

I considered the state of things in January as we brought only SvH in and many couldn't understand why we weren't 'going for it'. Although we ended up sneaking into the playoffs, I thought it was probably right that a continuing & potentially costly scramble to get a 25% chance to go up probably wasn't in our best long-term interests.

Now it goes without saying, a rebuild would be easier with PL money and that would have been preferable. But those were long odds to bet on.

It's short-termism writ large as we've repeatedly tried quick-fixes over the past two seasons to stretch and claw after promotion. Ultimately this has led to Smith, Wagner, Barnes & Duffy, no pathways to the first team for the youth, Gibbs as a striker, 7 players at left back, the list goes on. You could almost say all the wonky decisions of the past 2 years culminated in that performance at Elland Rd.

We are in need of a true reset. This will probably have to take shape over longer than a single season; the fans will have to find their patience again.

I'll probably be slated for 'Little Norwich' mentality, but a 12th place finish with a clear plan and obvious good foundations to move forward with would be better than our current muddled reality.

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Max Alegri is now available 😉

[repman 738]

6 hours ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

Danny Rohl - but Wednesday are a huge club and we’re even again now, why would he leave? But really rate him.

Mark Robins - He should’ve been here instead of Wagner. Why would he leave Cov? I think that club is in a stronger position than ours for promotion next season. 

Ian Evatt - Done superb at Bolton and play great football. 

Russell Martin - If Saints don’t go up and they sack him (don’t think he’d be sacked anyway), he’d galvanise the club, I think. 

 

I think the compensation required to get Rohl out of Sheff Wed is supposedly very high too so that’d be a stumbling block as well.

 

[Monty13 2,710]

Cuesta or Still are the two most exciting options if even possible IMO, I’d probably say Still if asked to choose.

It’s time for revolution not evolution. We want to compete we need to be doing things differently and trying to be ahead of the curve again IMO

[Paul101 184]

31 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

Cuesta or Still are the two most exciting options if even possible IMO, I’d probably say Still if asked to choose.

It’s time for revolution not evolution. We want to compete we need to be doing things differently and trying to be ahead of the curve again IMO

Reims have one 2 games in the last 10 played

[Monty13 2,710]

31 minutes ago, Paul101 said:

Reims have one 2 games in the last 10 played

He clearly wanted out and is at odds with owners, I’m not going to read too much into the last 10 games.

Edited May 18 by Monty13

[Chichcan 149]

Obviously a dodgy source that I should ignore but I'll post it anyway 😂

 

Claims we are looking at a foreign manager who needs a work permit 

I see Johannes Hoff Thorup is 16:1 in the betting 

Apparently he's manager of FC Nordsjælland in Denmark 

Obviously I've never heard of him but he's young and doing well there. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't someone like him that's doing OK in some smaller league and has a good playing style and good stats

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,529]

Brighton have just announced that Roberto De Zerbi is leaving at the end of the season. 

Well done, Ben. That's one hell of a coup.

[Terminally Yellow 2,614]

Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Brighton have just announced that Roberto De Zerbi is leaving at the end of the season. 

Well done, Ben. That's one hell of a coup.

He's a manager I'm a massive fan of. Off to Bayern do you think?

[Branston Pickle 4,116]

28 minutes ago, Chichcan said:

Obviously a dodgy source that I should ignore but I'll post it anyway 😂

 

Claims we are looking at a foreign manager who needs a work permit 

I see Johannes Hoff Thorup is 16:1 in the betting 

Apparently he's manager of FC Nordsjælland in Denmark 

Obviously I've never heard of him but he's young and doing well there. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't someone like him that's doing OK in some smaller league and has a good playing style and good stats

Someone mentioned Kim Hellberg, a Swedish guy, yesterday - is at Hammerby; he’d been linked to Sunderland in December.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,529]

7 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said:

He's a manager I'm a massive fan of. Off to Bayern do you think?

They were strongly linked a couple of months ago but that interest has cooled. You never know though with how quickly Bayern seem to be getting through their shortlist, which has become a bloody longlist by now.

Manchester United might be interested if Ten Hag goes. There are a few interesting vacancies in Serie A coming up this summer as well, with Milan possibly being a good fit.

[Chichcan 149]

It would be hilarious if Brighton tempted McKenna to take over

[repman 738]

53 minutes ago, Chichcan said:

It would be hilarious if Brighton tempted McKenna to take over

Wouldn't shock me if they're letting De Zerbi go now in order to get him in before United maybe come calling for McKenna (if that's who they go for). By the sounds of it De Zerbi wasn't going to stay long term and they're definitely smart enough to not leave it and hope for the best.

Edited May 18 by repman

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

1 hour ago, Chichcan said:

Obviously a dodgy source that I should ignore but I'll post it anyway 😂

 

Claims we are looking at a foreign manager who needs a work permit 

I see Johannes Hoff Thorup is 16:1 in the betting 

Apparently he's manager of FC Nordsjælland in Denmark 

Obviously I've never heard of him but he's young and doing well there. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't someone like him that's doing OK in some smaller league and has a good playing style and good stats

He's into 11s now

[Google Bot 3,848]

12 hours ago, Fen Canary said:

I’d rather a team of nasty winners than one of nice losers 

They're not mutually exclusive, so not sure why you've even created such a comparison.

Also, having respect for people does not make you weak, Look at combat sports for examples of that.  And it certainly does not define you as a loser.

Edited May 18 by Google Bot

[nutty nigel 7,870]

5 hours ago, Chichcan said:

Obviously a dodgy source that I should ignore but I'll post it anyway 😂

 

Claims we are looking at a foreign manager who needs a work permit 

I see Johannes Hoff Thorup is 16:1 in the betting 

Apparently he's manager of FC Nordsjælland in Denmark 

Obviously I've never heard of him but he's young and doing well there. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't someone like him that's doing OK in some smaller league and has a good playing style and good stats

Are Delia, Webber and Steve Stone appointing him? 😉

[The Raptor 1,527]

Mike Bassett just got off a train...

Obvious choice if you ask me

[Unthank Canary 14]

16 hours ago, Chichcan said:

Obviously a dodgy source that I should ignore but I'll post it anyway 😂

 

Claims we are looking at a foreign manager who needs a work permit 

I see Johannes Hoff Thorup is 16:1 in the betting 

Apparently he's manager of FC Nordsjælland in Denmark 

Obviously I've never heard of him but he's young and doing well there. 

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't someone like him that's doing OK in some smaller league and has a good playing style and good stats

Interesting. FC Nordsjaellend have done really well this year ( I follow the Danish leagues; my other half is Danish). They’ve pushed hard for the Superliga title with the three other teams that have traditionally won it over the last decade or so (they came close last year too). Looks like they will fall just short but a great effort. Exactly the sort of up and coming manager we should be looking at.  

Edited May 19 by Unthank Canary

[PurpleCanary 6,276]

We have not had a manager since Neil was sacked. The successor to head coach Wagner will be another head coach.

[Robert N. LiM 5,944]

4 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

We have not had a manager since Neil was sacked. The successor to head coach Wagner will be another head coach.

But will he get us back to the Premiership?

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,411]

Who I want is;

1. Will Still

2. Brian Priske

3. Kevin Muscat

[The Real Buh 3,746]

I’ll do it if @cambridgeshire canary is my assistant. 
 

 

[PurpleCanary 6,276]

6 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

But will he get us back to the Premiership?

He or she might…

[Yellow Wal 315]

Some ridiculous suggestions here, many by people who want to boast that they know so much about foreign football that they put forward quite obscure or unrealistic names.

Think what we need, which is a transformation in the club to really concentrate on youth and developing our own players and there can really only be one realistic candidate.

Carlos Cuesta is not the bookmakers favourite without a reason.

 

[Samwam27 593]

Id be guessing we wouldnt follow up any conversations with Cuesta until after todays final games, if he.is one we are seriously looking at

[chicken 3,045]

On 18/05/2024 at 08:59, Indy said:

Fair enough Fen, but I’m not in your camp, Barnes & Duffy aren’t examples I’d want at my club to be honest their general game isn’t what this club is about.

I disagree.

Barnes is like what you'd get if you put Holt and Stiepermann together. So Holt's physicality and Stiepermann's unselfishness and scoring record.

The one biggest criticism of the Farke teams we saw was that bar Tettey, even with Skipp, we lacked physical presence further up the pitch from Zimmermann and Hanley. The real issue is that adding Barnes and Duffy to what we had wasn't the ideal answer either - but it needed to be addressed, especially with Hanley out for what most were suggesting could be the season, and they were right.

You may not like them but good Norwich sides have had those sorts of players in them for decades. Malky Mackay wasn't dissimilar to Duffy, he certainly wasn't what you would call cultured and was more in the ilk of an old fashioned "stopper". The underlining point here being that Fleming was pacier and better with the ball so as a pairing they were superb.

I'd love to see the records of partnerships down the spine of the team over the last 5-6 years. I suspect that it's changed fairly frequently. The first season we went up Hanley and Klose started as the first choice, I think by October we were playing Godfrey and Zimmermann due to injuries. Then Zimmermann had that horror tackle from Haller and was out for pretty much all bar some of project restart. Hanley and Klose out injured which meant Amadou and Tettey filling in at CB. Godfrey went, Gibson came in. Omobamidele made an impact at the end of that season. Hanley recovered and made a partnership with Gibson's better distribution. Then the premier league happened again and it went to pot. We've not had a consistent pairing since. Need to get that sorted. A 25/26yr old CB with some decent experience of this level to play alongside one of our youngsters coming through with support in experience from Duffy and Hanley. 

Something similar in CM and we need to settle on a formation that we can be as solid in as we are threatening.

[Indy 3,448]

10 minutes ago, chicken said:

I disagree.

Barnes is like what you'd get if you put Holt and Stiepermann together. So Holt's physicality and Stiepermann's unselfishness and scoring record.

The one biggest criticism of the Farke teams we saw was that bar Tettey, even with Skipp, we lacked physical presence further up the pitch from Zimmermann and Hanley. The real issue is that adding Barnes and Duffy to what we had wasn't the ideal answer either - but it needed to be addressed, especially with Hanley out for what most were suggesting could be the season, and they were right.

You may not like them but good Norwich sides have had those sorts of players in them for decades. Malky Mackay wasn't dissimilar to Duffy, he certainly wasn't what you would call cultured and was more in the ilk of an old fashioned "stopper". The underlining point here being that Fleming was pacier and better with the ball so as a pairing they were superb.

I'd love to see the records of partnerships down the spine of the team over the last 5-6 years. I suspect that it's changed fairly frequently. The first season we went up Hanley and Klose started as the first choice, I think by October we were playing Godfrey and Zimmermann due to injuries. Then Zimmermann had that horror tackle from Haller and was out for pretty much all bar some of project restart. Hanley and Klose out injured which meant Amadou and Tettey filling in at CB. Godfrey went, Gibson came in. Omobamidele made an impact at the end of that season. Hanley recovered and made a partnership with Gibson's better distribution. Then the premier league happened again and it went to pot. We've not had a consistent pairing since. Need to get that sorted. A 25/26yr old CB with some decent experience of this level to play alongside one of our youngsters coming through with support in experience from Duffy and Hanley. 

Something similar in CM and we need to settle on a formation that we can be as solid in as we are threatening.

Barnes has been ok at best and Duffy dire. We got where we because of three very good players but you’re entitled to your thoughts the same as me, so we differ. I would miss either if they went unfortunately were stuck with them!

[chicken 3,045]

14 hours ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

Who I want is;

1. Will Still

2. Brian Priske

3. Kevin Muscat

<shudders>

I'd need some sort of therapy to get over Muscat coming to us in any sort of capacity... I'm pretty sure a few ex players might have to square a few things off with him too... Not arguing his managerial credentials by my word, he was one of the most hated players to touch the grass of Carrow Road.