hogesar 9,836 Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, canarybubbles said: Expected assists? Pah! That's so 2023. The future is ESTIĀ - expected successful throw-ins. Catch up! After we basically scored against the sc*m from a NUNEZ long throw-in, I think this stat has taken on a whole new level of importance! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,572 Posted December 19, 2023 The real issue with any forum is getting the balance right for the moderation and that is where @JonnyJonnyRowe 's forum did't quite work. it was too restrictive - and people want to feel they can say what they want within reason.Ā That balance is hard to achieve because there will always be the one or two people who want to dominate proceedings, or get nasty when they feel their line is't being followed. I know this because I've had first hand experience of being persistently hounded in the past for opposing the popular view at times. @Pete Raven did a good job at moderating - he let a lot go, but acted when really needed - and it is a difficult job, because to do the job thoroughly would need someone to be on top of it 24/7, which is impractical for one person to do on their own. Having several moderators - as @JonnyJonnyRowe 's forum had - might have worked, had it not been set up with the view of being squeaky clean. Frankly, people don't want squeaky clean forums - they want a bit of argument, heated discussion and disagreement - it's the spice of life after all - and people should be allowed to speak their minds.....as long as they don't get abusive - with other posters or about people at the club. So whether it's one moderator, or several, it ought to be possible to keep things interesting - even spicy - but kick out those who go over the top and spoil it for others. My experience on here, has been mixed with all sorts of opposites - huge support at times and also abuse and bullying at times too -so I feel qualified to comment on this subject. Without the help of moderation, I would not be posting on here at all - I would have long ago given it up as a waste of time - but underneath all the problems of running a forum, the responsibility for making it work lies with every single one of us - making sure we keep ourselves in check - and also means reporting abuse from others when you see it. In other words, we all need to help those in charge of the forum - if we want it to continue, we need them to think we value it enough by keeping things civil, to confront abuse when we see it - and to show that WE care enough to look after it! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,673 Posted December 19, 2023 11 hours ago, king canary said: ...I'd like to invite you all to listen to mine and @hogesar's new podcast 'The Rest is XG' where we bring the magic of graphs to an audio medium. Rotating guest will include @shefcanaryĀ talking about how our left back failing to track back is in fact a failure of corporate governance, @lake district canaryĀ to discuss which previous managers whos name rhymes with Baniel Barke we should rehire and @Parma Ham's gone mouldyĀ to talk for a solid 80 minutes while weĀ stroke our chins and nod. Sign up now for 50% off your first website from squarespace. You joke but I absolutely would subscribe to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,336 Posted December 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, lake district canary said: The real issue with any forum is getting the balance right for the moderation and that is where @JonnyJonnyRowe 's forum did't quite work. it was too restrictive - and people want to feel they can say what they want within reason.Ā That balance is hard to achieve because there will always be the one or two people who want to dominate proceedings, or get nasty when they feel their line is't being followed. I know this because I've had first hand experience of being persistently hounded in the past for opposing the popular view at times. @Pete Raven did a good job at moderating - he let a lot go, but acted when really needed - and it is a difficult job, because to do the job thoroughly would need someone to be on top of it 24/7, which is impractical for one person to do on their own. Having several moderators - as @JonnyJonnyRowe 's forum had - might have worked, had it not been set up with the view of being squeaky clean. Frankly, people don't want squeaky clean forums - they want a bit of argument, heated discussion and disagreement - it's the spice of life after all - and people should be allowed to speak their minds.....as long as they don't get abusive - with other posters or about people at the club. So whether it's one moderator, or several, it ought to be possible to keep things interesting - even spicy - but kick out those who go over the top and spoil it for others. My experience on here, has been mixed with all sorts of opposites - huge support at times and also abuse and bullying at times too -so I feel qualified to comment on this subject. Without the help of moderation, I would not be posting on here at all - I would have long ago given it up as a waste of time - but underneath all the problems of running a forum, the responsibility for making it work lies with every single one of us - making sure we keep ourselves in check - and also means reporting abuse from others when you see it. In other words, we all need to help those in charge of the forum - if we want it to continue, we need them to think we value it enough by keeping things civil, to confront abuse when we see it - and to show that WE care enough to look after it! Partially agree. A lot of us reported one particular post which went beyond decency and was highly offensive to those that have suffered cancer, or knew someone that had. Best cause of action is not to engage with them on any level. I'm having very mixed feelings about this forum tbh. This might be the time to finally call it a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,712 Posted December 19, 2023 28 minutes ago, lake district canary said: The real issue with any forum is getting the balance right for the moderation and that is where @JonnyJonnyRowe 's forum did't quite work. it was too restrictive - and people want to feel they can say what they want within reason.Ā That balance is hard to achieve because there will always be the one or two people who want to dominate proceedings, or get nasty when they feel their line is't being followed. I know this because I've had first hand experience of being persistently hounded in the past for opposing the popular view at times. @Pete Raven did a good job at moderating - he let a lot go, but acted when really needed - and it is a difficult job, because to do the job thoroughly would need someone to be on top of it 24/7, which is impractical for one person to do on their own. Having several moderators - as @JonnyJonnyRowe 's forum had - might have worked, had it not been set up with the view of being squeaky clean. Frankly, people don't want squeaky clean forums - they want a bit of argument, heated discussion and disagreement - it's the spice of life after all - and people should be allowed to speak their minds.....as long as they don't get abusive - with other posters or about people at the club. So whether it's one moderator, or several, it ought to be possible to keep things interesting - even spicy - but kick out those who go over the top and spoil it for others. My experience on here, has been mixed with all sorts of opposites - huge support at times and also abuse and bullying at times too -so I feel qualified to comment on this subject. Without the help of moderation, I would not be posting on here at all - I would have long ago given it up as a waste of time - but underneath all the problems of running a forum, the responsibility for making it work lies with every single one of us - making sure we keep ourselves in check - and also means reporting abuse from others when you see it. In other words, we all need to help those in charge of the forum - if we want it to continue, we need them to think we value it enough by keeping things civil, to confront abuse when we see it - and to show that WE care enough to look after it! Difficult to disagree with any of that. The moderation on here is, in my view, absurdly light touch. To have Connor wade in with a 'final warning' having done absolutely nothing to try and nip these issues in the bud is a bit of a joke to be honest, and it happens because the owners of the site for some reason are asking their actual journalists to manager a forum alongside their actual day jobs so of course it gets ignored until we're at crisis mode. Most other forums have a team of moderators, generally trusted posters with a solid track record, to keep a lid on things. It usually works pretty well and wouldn't be that hard to make work on this forum. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,712 Posted December 19, 2023 Right so having checked the suggestions I'm adding... @essex canaryĀ to discuss all things finance. Occasionally we'll allow @wcorkcanaryĀ a right of reply as long as he only swears in moderation. @littleyellowbirdieĀ can have a slot after LDC to make the case for rehiring a different manager, likely one that rhymes with Lean Cliff. @nutty nigelĀ can do PUPS and chip shop etiqutte. @PurpleCanaryĀ can have a 10 minute slot to do whatever he wants. In an ideal world I'd like some local sponsors too, ideally companies I remember from Broadland 102 adverts in the late 90's.Ā Call call call....carptet call call call 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,673 Posted December 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: You joke but I absolutely would subscribe to this. Ā Just now, king canary said: Right so having checked the suggestions I'm adding... @essex canaryĀ to discuss all things finance. Occasionally we'll allow @wcorkcanaryĀ a right of reply as long as he only swears in moderation. @littleyellowbirdieĀ can have a slot after LDC to make the case for rehiring a different manager, likely one that rhymes with Lean Cliff. I take it back. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,259 Posted December 19, 2023 13 hours ago, king canary said: ...I'd like to invite you all to listen to mine and @hogesar's new podcast 'The Rest is XG' where we bring the magic of graphs to an audio medium. Rotating guest will include @shefcanaryĀ talking about how our left back failing to track back is in fact a failure of corporate governance, @lake district canaryĀ to discuss which previous managers whos name rhymes with Baniel Barke we should rehire and @Parma Ham's gone mouldyĀ to talk for a solid 80 minutes while weĀ stroke our chins and nod. Sign up now for 50% off your first website from squarespace. I really donāt see why you would cut me off so abruptly mid-flowā¦. ParmaĀ 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,813 Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Capt. Pants said: Partially agree. A lot of us reported one particular post which went beyond decency and was highly offensive to those that have suffered cancer, or knew someone that had. Best cause of action is not to engage with them on any level. I'm having very mixed feelings about this forum tbh. This might be the time to finally call it a day. Don't quitĀ Pantsy, I already get a feeling of a better community feel and a nicer environment since Connors post last night. Edited December 19, 2023 by Ken Hairy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,609 Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said: I really donāt see why you would cut me off so abruptly mid-flowā¦. ParmaĀ I am saying nothing...š Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,609 Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, king canary said: Right so having checked the suggestions I'm adding... @essex canaryĀ to discuss all things finance. Occasionally we'll allow @wcorkcanaryĀ a right of reply as long as he only swears in moderation. @littleyellowbirdieĀ can have a slot after LDC to make the case for rehiring a different manager, likely one that rhymes with Lean Cliff. @nutty nigelĀ can do PUPS and chip shop etiqutte. @PurpleCanaryĀ can have a 10 minute slot to do whatever he wants. In an ideal world I'd like some local sponsors too, ideally companies I remember from Broadland 102 adverts in the late 90's.Ā Call call call....carptet call call call That's a door you will wish you had never opened... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 521 Posted December 19, 2023 Can someone DM me to let me know who to look out for as this sounds horrible? I was completely unaware of this. Also who was attacked although I can guess from the description? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,261 Posted December 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said: I'd rather cut off my penis with a rusty bread knife. š OTBC Sounds like material for a podcast. āThe rest is screamingā? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,126 Posted December 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said: I'd rather cut off my penis with a rusty bread knife. š OTBC John Bobbitt style? He went on to serious acting work so there could be an opening for you.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,894 Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, king canary said: Right so having checked the suggestions I'm adding... @essex canaryĀ to discuss all things finance. Occasionally we'll allow @wcorkcanaryĀ a right of reply as long as he only swears in moderation. @littleyellowbirdieĀ can have a slot after LDC to make the case for rehiring a different manager, likely one that rhymes with Lean Cliff. @nutty nigelĀ can do PUPS and chip shop etiqutte. @PurpleCanaryĀ can have a 10 minute slot to do whatever he wants. In an ideal world I'd like some local sponsors too, ideally companies I remember from Broadland 102 adverts in the late 90's.Ā Call call call....carptet call call call Ooooh what about me? Do I have a new job yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,336 Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Ken Hairy said: Don't quitĀ Pantsy, I already get a feeling of a better community feel and a nicer environment since Connors post last night. I hope so. Equally I'm a bit annoyed as the dreaded thread (it's now been removed) was reported some while ago but with no action taken. It seems it's the reaction to the highly offensive bit that has been called out rather than the offensive bit itself. I quite like the idea of a new forum although I fear it will just be a Pinkun Old Boys brigade. I'd like to see all new user names with the content of the thread discussed rather than a default reaction just because it was created by Poster X. Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,339 Posted December 19, 2023 Can we reintroduce a "Friendly Fridays" slot? (adapted for the appropriate day of the week...Tender Tuesdays, Warm-heartedĀ Wednesdays, etc.)?Ā š Apples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,259 Posted December 19, 2023 58 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said: I am saying nothing...š ā¦you didnāt get the chanceā¦šš.ā¦.wasnāt wrong though was I?Ā ParmaĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,126 Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Apples said: Can we reintroduce a "Friendly Fridays" slot? (adapted for the appropriate day of the week...Tender Tuesdays, Warm-heartedĀ Wednesdays, etc.)?Ā š Apples Leave that with me.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,894 Posted December 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr Apples said: Can we reintroduce a "Friendly Fridays" slot? (adapted for the appropriate day of the week...Tender Tuesdays, Warm-heartedĀ Wednesdays, etc.)?Ā š Apples Did wonder where those went Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,609 Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said: ā¦you didnāt get the chanceā¦šš.ā¦.wasnāt wrong though was I?Ā ParmaĀ Certainly that first statement is true...šš¤£š¤©šš Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,259 Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said: Certainly that first statement is true...šš¤£š¤©šš ā¦you were taking journalistic notesā¦š¤£ Parma Edited December 19, 2023 by Parma Ham's gone mouldy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,261 Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Ken Hairy said: Don't quitĀ Pantsy, I already get a feeling of a better community feel and a nicer environment since Connors post last night. Binner 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,238 Posted December 19, 2023 The thread we never knew we needed!Ā š Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,126 Posted December 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mr Apples said: Can we reintroduce a "Friendly Fridays" slot? (adapted for the appropriate day of the week...Tender Tuesdays, Warm-heartedĀ Wednesdays, etc.)?Ā š Apples Today feels like a Thoughtful Tuesday after Connorās advice last night. That said Iām stopping off at theĀ at the Off Licence after this 13 hour shift ends so anything might happen.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,836 Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Today feels like a Thoughtful Tuesday after Connorās advice last night. That said Iām stopping off at theĀ at the Off Licence after this 13 hour shift ends so anything might happen.Ā One of my warning points basically says I have to be nice to you.Ā Despite our issues, I don't believe you likely reported me yourself. So a bit odd. Complete unrelated to the above, how are you today Midlands?Ā 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,126 Posted December 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, hogesar said: One of my warning points basically says I have to be nice to you.Ā Despite our issues, I don't believe you likely reported me yourself. So a bit odd. Complete unrelated to the above, how are you today Midlands?Ā Have never reported you or anyone else and never would. Iām in no position to do that kind of thing!Ā Iām having a pleasant day at work thanks and hope your day is going well too.Ā Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,459 Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, king canary said: Right so having checked the suggestions I'm adding... @essex canaryĀ to discuss all things finance. Occasionally we'll allow @wcorkcanaryĀ a right of reply as long as he only swears in moderation. @littleyellowbirdieĀ can have a slot after LDC to make the case for rehiring a different manager, likely one that rhymes with Lean Cliff. @nutty nigelĀ can do PUPS and chip shop etiqutte. @PurpleCanaryĀ can have a 10 minute slot to do whatever he wants. In an ideal world I'd like some local sponsors too, ideally companies I remember from Broadland 102 adverts in the late 90's.Ā Call call call....carptet call call call When you call mattress man he reckons he's the best.Ā Edited December 19, 2023 by GodlyOtsemobor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 762 Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, king canary said: Call call call....carptet call call call 610332? š Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,435 Posted December 19, 2023 Can I do a set of graphics for the show and then fade into vague obscurity for the ensuing 13 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites