Ulfotto 660 Posted October 4, 2023 So we are nearly a quarter of the way through the season and I will have no idea where we are going. What is the script? It’s the first season in forever where I have no idea what is going to happen next. Last year doomed promotion bid was set early on, likewise meek relegation seasons, promotion challenge in lockdown. 18/19 is the only season at this point there was no knowing where it was going at this stage. It is very confusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted October 4, 2023 Try to make the top 6, we’re not a top 2 team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,485 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) It's clearly heading towards an East Anglian Derby in the playoff final. Edited October 4, 2023 by KeiranShikari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 710 Posted October 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: It's clearly heading towards an East Anglian Derby in the playoff final. Nah, the binners will have been promoted as league winners well before the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,865 Posted October 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: It's clearly heading towards an East Anglian Derby in the playoff final. There is a tiny part of me that would like that but on the other hand.. God can you imagine the state this forum would be in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,865 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) Ignore this post, accidently posted the same post twice Edited October 4, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,325 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) To be fair at this stage last season the promotion push wasn't yet doomed and indeed Wagner did still have a reasonable chance of reaching the play-offs deep into the season. We need to stay in contention of the top 6 as a minimum, so that when Sarge returns the season is still alive. It's still a bit early to say anything is impossible. Uncertainty if you want to call it that, is how it should be. Just to add if the season was to end this minute we would be in the play-offs with Preston, Sunderland and WBA. I think many would bite your hands off for that. Edited October 4, 2023 by Capt. Pants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 281 Posted October 4, 2023 We are restricted by having no plan b for when a successful press closes off the supply through the midfield pivot making. We also have multiple limitations, pace at cb, tendency to over commit fb forward and a midfield pivot who are better on the front foot but have a tendency let runners go and rarely win the ball back and a preference for crosses and a squad susceptible to injuries. But we have a squad playing to its strengths when it does work and that should keep us going. As such a play off spot has to be the aim, in an open season with all teams beating each (1 pt covering 4th to 10th atm) its gonna be a roller coaster. More if we can evolve a way to circumvent a smothering press. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 401 Posted October 4, 2023 Anywhere between 7th and13th. Don't feel we will beat enough of the top six to hurt them in their quest and our defence just does'nt give me the confidence to predict anything positive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,239 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Ignore this post, accidently posted the same post twice Think I prefer this one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,123 Posted October 4, 2023 Start slow, everyone gets injured, carry one being poor, injured return, binners implode, a few good games, build momentum, play football, win games, reach play offs, lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,444 Posted October 4, 2023 Tears all the way as we trail in the wake of our Southern neighbours. Boooooooooooooooooooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 5,055 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, ricardo said: Tears all the way as we trail in the wake of our Southern neighbours. Boooooooooooooooooooo For God sake @ricardopull yourself together. It'll be fine........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Shuck 192 Posted October 4, 2023 Can't see us finishing in the top 2-Leicester will walk away with then title bar something extraordinary happening, whilst Leeds as good a bet as anyone for second. Then its a mad and undignified rush for the next four places with as many runners and riders in it as the Grand National-with lots of fallers and a few surprises along the way and at the end. Sunderland, West Brom, Ipswich, Southampton, Swansea, Middlesbrough, Norwich amongst them. 1. Leicester, 2. Leeds, 3. Sunderland, 4. Ipswich, 5. Norwich, 6. West Brom. A repeat of 1985? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,444 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: For God sake @ricardopull yourself together. It'll be fine........ No mate, I've seen the future and it looks a bit blue. Ten games on the board and the stats don't lie. Nothing lasts forever. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,225 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) It is difficult to assess any narrative for this season as far as I see it. The team is quite difficult to define at the moment, as is the manager or how we will perform on the field of play. There is a real danger of us eventually drifting into a mid-table mediocrity, whereby we become more concerned with ITFC losing than NCFC winning. I suppose a lot depends upon the recovery levels of the strike force and just how new boys like Saintz, Forshaw and Hwang perform. Even the ideal regards this would likely see us as play-off contenders only though. That the club is in a state of flux at this moment in time is an understatement. A notable shift in ownership, a new Director of Football and a manager who never quite convinces and therefore seems to have the jury perpetually out trying to pass judgement whether he is up to the role in the first place. This could also actually be a season when a healthy number of youth players break through one way or another. Accredited with three wishes I would want by the season's end and, in order of preference:- a few million in the transfer pot (who knows?) a D.of F. who is at least likeable and capable of maintaining the good along with adding fresh ideas with possibly a new young dynamic manager at the helm. Norwich City Football Club is currently at a crossroads. No wonder few can foretell the outcome of this season Edited October 4, 2023 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 5,055 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ricardo said: No mate, I've seen the future and it looks a bit blue. Ten games on the board and the stats don't lie. Nothing lasts forever. Dylan runs screaming from the room! PS I saw them last night and they played well. Nothing fancy or clever, just very quick and very hard working. We all worked out early on that we'd have problems if we suffered injuries and we've probably lost the most important 2 players. You identified Sargent as MOTM a couple of times I think. The only chance we have this season is if we somehow manage to cling on till they're fit. I also think we'll have a battle to hang on to Rowe and Sara in January. As regards Ipswich, lots of mention has been made of the Everton job for their manager. Should we he adding Manchester United as a possibility as well? The penny may finally drop with United that big reputations are meaningless 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,239 Posted October 4, 2023 59 minutes ago, NFN FC said: Start slow, everyone gets injured, carry one being poor, injured return, binners implode, a few good games, build momentum, play football, win games, reach play offs, lose. My finger was hovering over the like button until I read the last word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,123 Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: My finger was hovering over the like button until I read the last word. I'd rather that than another season in the PL in it's current format 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sufyellow 242 Posted October 4, 2023 6 hours ago, Nuff Said said: My finger was hovering over the like button until I read the last word. You wouldn't want to win with this squad , would you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percy varco 203 Posted October 4, 2023 7 hours ago, NFN FC said: Start slow, everyone gets injured, carry one being poor, injured return, binners implode, a few good games, build momentum, play football, win games, reach play offs, lose. Suit me. Need to build, not with Webber or Wagner. When we next go up Delia et al will be gone along with the little ol Norwich - we’re so happy to be here mentality. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,656 Posted October 4, 2023 What are expectations? Only watched it on the wireless but from what I could make out it was better than when we last played Swansea. But improving on that won’t get us very high up the table. Expectations at the end of last season didn’t seem to include us troubling the top two this season. Expectations pre season certainly didn’t seem to include us troubling the top two. If we cut out stupid errors we could challenge for playoffs especially if we’re not too far adrift when Sarge returns. Nunez is a big miss too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,235 Posted October 4, 2023 Milwaukee Mediocrity 👌🏻 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 862 Posted October 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Ulfotto said: So we are nearly a quarter of the way through the season and I will have no idea where we are going. What is the script? It’s the first season in forever where I have no idea what is going to happen next. Last year doomed promotion bid was set early on, likewise meek relegation seasons, promotion challenge in lockdown. 18/19 is the only season at this point there was no knowing where it was going at this stage. It is very confusing. Its actually quite clear.... we are trying to pursue promotion one way or another, falsely believing that the team should have such aspirations, when quite simply it isn't good enough. We did the same last season. The upshot of such a flawed ambition is that it stunts proper development and clever judgement, it creates unreasonable expectations / pressure on the manager and players. There is a desperation about the club that reeks right now. The leaders have lost their way, run out of ideas and making poor judgements.... Wagner's ability is being exposed and whilst I appreciate we have injuries, the team is relying heavily on the likes of Sargent and Barnes therefore, we really are in decline. Many on here have a promotion mindset which seems quite silly to me.... I would dread the idea of us getting promoted with this squad.... quality wise, it's arguably not much better than when Webber arrived. Its not remotely functional for that aim so why not take stock and start developing again... change Wagners brief and take the pressure off. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,421 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) People talking about promotion are deluded. We are bereft of talent barring a handful of players, most of whom are now injured. And the old experience we signed for free is struggling to cope with the physical demands of the champs- hence performances drop and we ship goals. This is all heading the way of last season - we will fade in my opinion and finish mid table at best or down in the doldrums at worst - if you need a reason to be pessimistic we are currently in relegation form and confidence hasn’t quite dropped yet. we have a top six attack and a bottom half defence with a meh midfield. We still need a CDM Edited October 5, 2023 by Dean Coneys boots 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,311 Posted October 5, 2023 Wagner needs to play our talented players. He needs Sarge, Barnes and Nunez back. Nunez needs throwing in, he has loads of talent, and can play the high press. Gibbs too. Both need a run of games. Wagner has to be willing to change McLean to accommodate other players. A team that has Sarge, Barnes, Nunez, Sara, Gibbs, and Rowe on the pitch will win a lot of matches at this level… if Wagner can’t find a way to win consistently with that lot, it’s on him. Problem is, it’s January untill he has all available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DraytonBoy 167 Posted October 5, 2023 With the current squad, reaching the play-offs would represent a very good season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 942 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Old Shuck said: Can't see us finishing in the top 12 I've corrected yout typo Edited October 5, 2023 by Making Plans 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 660 Posted October 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, DraytonBoy said: With the current squad, reaching the play-offs would represent a very good season. Probably the most sensible thing said on this forum for ages. For me par is being in touch with the playoffs. Maybe an emerging narrative is a team who is good at home but can’t win away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wimbledoncanary 10 Posted October 5, 2023 I think the evolution of our defence is paramount. I feel Hanley coming back is so important and my hope is Wagner now has not much choice but now to start involving Baath and Warner more . I'm just not trusting Duffy/Gibson away from home , some of the mistakes made are horrendous. Fassnacht and Hwang , right now dont look inspired signings at all , mistakes and not looking confident . Focus on Springett , Gibbs , Rowe , Hernandez and to a degree Placheta on those attacking spaces (atm Idah and Sara have to start) and its got to be better then yesterday. yes we have injuries but Norwich are our own worst enemy's when gifting the ball away and this has to stop or lower mid table awaits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites