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ged in the onion bag last won the day on September 26 2023

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  1. Well, I think you've done as well as possible to justify your view here. Sadly, I don't see it myself, Your argument centres on our forward players (who are our main assets) and sadly, they won't get the ball in the right areas and with enough support around them (IMO) since we don't have enough structure and quality to the team and we won't be able to close the vast gap without a lot of money. I think CDM's are a necessity nowadays. Rowe is very hit and miss and I don't think consist enough yet. Can he offer support defensively and an attacking threat, not sure. But the fact is the defence is a major problem. The only one's i would trust are Stacey, Sorensen and McCallum and that's as back-up options. The rest are nowhere near the level. Its not likely I know, but I'm up for your wager certainly, I will be hoping to donate by Xmas. Whats the protocol for that?
  2. How do you work that out. We'd have no defence based on the current squad. We've got one potential forward. No CDM, only Sara in midfield, No Buendia type to create enough chances. Sainz isn't Buendia, doesn't have his tenacity or ability to create as many chances. Not quick enough, strong enough or technically good enough. Not financially funded and our scouting and recruitment is not convincing.
  3. Were just not ready…. Responding to the comments in this thread… We couldn’t play like a Dyche team in the Prem, we just don’t have ‘ANY’ personnel to play that way and all our kids have been bought up to play pretty football… we aren’t that type of club. We’d need a new team. Mention of 10 plus most definitely. We have the following : - Capable, Gunn, Sara, Possibly capable, Stacey, Sargent, Rowe, Sainz, …….. but the last 3 only if we have players that can get the ball to them effectively and their attacking threat is not compromised by having to defend deep… which is what has happened the last two occasions. Reserves at best McCallum, Nunez (not quick enough and too lightweight), Gibbs (we just don’t know), Sorensen is versatile. Not capable due to lack of speed, agility, strength, experience at that level….. Long, Fisher (unlikely), Batth, Duffy, Hanley, Gibson, Giannoulis, McLean (we just have to have better than that in the engine for the team to function at EPL level, wouldn’t have the room he gets now in the deep role), Hernandez, Barnes, Fassnacht. That’s two definite and 4 possibles. If anyone disputes that, please justify articulately. It is the EPL remember. We aren’t a robust, strong and quick team… all the attributes required, we don’t have. We have at least 10 players out on loan and some doing very well. None are likely to get any opportunity to progress with us if we go up, we will stick with the list above and expect miracles. Then you have to allow for injuries. It’s real fantasy to think we can compete when there really aren’t adequate players and finances in place. We don’t ‘need’ promotion financially since all of that money will be consumed just in the promotion itself, just like it was the last two times. This team isn’t anywhere near as good as the past two promotion teams and look what happened…. Yes, poor recruitment… wrong players for the time. What’s to say we will get that right next time? In all likelihood we won’t.
  4. Why a risk? Not like we were possibly throwing away a promotion position, or at the time a play-off place. There's absolutely no risk at all we were mid-table. I'd say it would demonstrate positive and brave management. What responsibility? Should Liverpool not have played Owen when he was 18? Birmingham and Dortmund not play Bellingham? Lol.
  5. Answer to the thread title - unequivocally Yes.... Answer to your post. Absolutely no chance. We don't have the players or the financial backing or the recruitment, or the coach.. recipe for disaster. Building a squad takes time, probably 3 years. Needs a proper plan and patience. We haven't built anything this past three seasons. Farke wasn't far away from making it work. We go up this season, we'll spend all the money again trying in vain to compete, have an awful experience and end up chasing our tails again.... and skint! Meanwhile all this talent out on loan, will likely be lost as they won't get a chance, much like what's happening to Gibbs. We'd need to start with the recruitment and get that sorted first of course, then a manager with a philosoply we can buy into.... of course, we will lose Sara, Sargent and Rowe, that's inevitable, but its happening anyway at some point and at least we'l get money for them but we won't following a disastrous EPL campaign.
  6. Think I just did. But also said it in a particular context which is relevant and you have not even considered that point. Read the context! Separately, based on the evidence so far and seeing him play, he doesn't look clever or much of a threat, ungainly even. Would much rather them give Aboh a chance, he's fit, one of our own and it wouldn't have cost us anything. So what was the point of you commenting there? Please justify.
  7. Why not let Idah go and promote Aboh into the third striker option... Have to agree with Hoggy, SVH does look a good distance away from competing for a start. Aboh is fit. ? How long does it take to get fit? He's been here 6 weeks now which is a pre-season... Yes, match fit is different but then he's not contributing in the minutes as a sub. Diabolical signing when Aboh is more ready for a chance since he's fit!
  8. We could have won the first Premier League title. We were the best team without doubt and played the best football. Just didn't have a deep enough squad to maintain it. That team was special! Right now, sad to say but promotion would ruin us.
  9. Perhaps this comment should be kept in a special place on the forum if we get promoted. So it can be referenced after each matchday, especially as your tune changes and blame and criticism take over... expect some amusement will be had. There's 38 matchdays compared to 1 day at Wembley. We'd need much more than £140m. Forest spent £300m and just about survived, now they are in trouble for spending that much. There's plenty of fans that are apprehensive we might get promoted. I am one. We have not prepared anything for going up, we don't have athlete's, strong and speedy players, an effective playing philosophy, robust defensive system that's hard to breach and the manager is very limited. Nice man mind! Then there's the recruitment, not been too clever of late.... ... and of course, that would be the end for all this promising talent out on loan... they'd get no opportunity then and we'll likely lose them. The following players could potentially be effective in the league above.... Gunn and Sara, with possibles being Rowe, Sargent and Sainz! The posters not a snowflake for those concerns, more a realist! Probably fears the team will get thumped and worse, fail to compete. Do enjoy your one day at Wembley though... Really no need for name calling for his opinion. Bet you wouldn't do that to his face. But you probably feel all hard and macho behind your keyboard..... and you're not talking for all 40000 City fans with that nonsense either.
  10. Just some observations... It ws obvious how deep we dropped immediately. They were on the ropes it seemed a second was likely.... We didn't just drop deep, we went really narrow too, thats not how to defend for 60 odd minutes. You still need to stop crosses, something we didn't even try to do, they had too much time and room - no pressure on the ball at all. If ever there was a team asking to be beaten, that was us last night.... We were never going to survive for 60 minutes defending that deep and narrow, so why sit back like that. Have a go! Sainz plays a position where that player is usually sacrificed following a red, so it didn't really change the dynamic that much. It shouldn't have rather. We have an elderly squad.... I mean 'experienced'! Not much of that on show from Hanley, Gibson, McLean and Barnes etc...IMO. Sargent was moved to a position which made him pretty redundant (and so he was).... should have stayed up top and moved Barnes or changed Barnes for Welch or Gibbs. .... carried on pressing high up and asked the forward pressers to run themselves into the ground until 65-70 mins then change them but keep making it hard for Middlesboro to play. We made it so easy. Nunez's game doesn't suit our situation in that game... much better to put Gibbs in that central role second half. Nunez needs forward movement, time on the ball etc... he was never going to have options and he's not a strong battling type player, shouldn't have come on, not a criticism of him though . Wagner, didn't understand what on earth was going down on that pitch. Rabbit in the headlights. He was fully responsible for the manner of that defeat. Clearly couldn't see what was happening or had no clue how to address it... No direction or adequate instruction, clueless tactically. Disappointing. Promotion chase, really!
  11. I suspect he was expecting more involvement than what he’s getting. Now if he’s happy sitting on a 5yr contract and doesn’t have much ambition beyond the money, then we have another problem! Also, Wagner was fire-fighting last season having taken over from Smith. I don’t expect he is happy though. I imagine he’s gutted that this manager hasn’t got belief in him or isn’t brave enough to throw him in his preferred position. Let’s face it, Wagner has tried very little to change the central midfield deficiencies. Your comment seems very simplistic. He needs to be progressing now, instead he’s regressing and we need a CDM. If he’s got ambition, he needs to get away if he can because he’s not getting a chance at CDM with Wagner.
  12. I’m more concerned about Liam Gibbs right now. Talented lad played out of position and not given a proper go in his preferred position, (a position the team has no proper personnel for), his confidence and youthful exuberance completely shattered by this manager who seems to have no interest in bringing him through. Let’s not forget this lad did plenty enough for everyone to be quite excited when he came through initially. He needs to get away for his own sake. To not get a look in again last night, he must be wondering what’s gorn on!
  13. I'm sorry but that response really suggests you are quite silly (sorry but its a ridiculous statement) you've probably spent too much time on social media! It doesn't suggest anything about my views on Wagner, just purely my opinion on Mourinho. Mourinho couldn't manage this team, he needs thugs, he needs money, he needs the spotlight for his ego. Norwich City aren't providing any of that. Wagner is useless in my view. He's literally destroyed Liam Gibbs' potential right in front of us, played him out of position, damaged his confidence and exhuberance. The lad needs to get away as fast as possible for his own sake. I want change but Mourinho, not ever!
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