Farke to Leeds

[Nexus_Canary 1,016]

2 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Well, the majority voted that they wanted him gone before he did go.

The majority? You talking about 25 5 fingerd morons on here or the dip****s who voted for safe standing etc on the clubs official website?

I know I didn't vote for him to go, I was fearful in his first year and suggested maybe he wasn't up to it... (I was wrong) but I would argue the majority of true fans didn't want him gone.

Or is it like brexit when 51 percent made up of daily mail readers and 1 brain cellers voted to train wreck the country in the name of nationalism.

Similarly to brexit, firing farke turned out equally as good 

[TIL 1010 4,748]

4 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Well, the majority voted that they wanted him gone before he did go.

Is that the majority of the 25,000 who go to Carrow Road, the 2,000 or so who go to away games or the 100/150 to use this forum ?

[TIL 1010 4,748]

21 minutes ago, Yobocop said:

Isn’t there some kind of poetic justice that the same fans who drove Webber and to some extent Farke out are also those sh*tt1ng their pants that the same two people are going to do well at another club? 

Hilarious  

Jez do you seriously think that Webber took note of the 40-60 year old divorced drunks who sit in the Snakepit and resigned  ?

[yellowrider120 763]

I doubt very much if the Farke / Webber dream ticket (should both geezers land the respective jobs) will prove to be anything like the success it was here. Elland Road is a MUCH more demanding arena than laid back, 'little old' Norwich City! In any event 'second time round' usually ends in disappointment they say.

[Nexus_Canary 1,016]

2 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said:

I doubt very much if the Farke / Webber dream ticket (should both geezers land the respective jobs) will prove to be anything like the success it was here. Elland Road is a MUCH more demanding arena than laid back, 'little old' Norwich City! In any event 'second time round' usually ends in disappointment they say.

I kinda agree with you, but it's Leeds.

Like Lambert going to Ipswich was funny as he was a spent force and that was obvious.

Leeds might just the catalyst... More fearful he goes there takes them up within 2 seasons then manages to establish them in the prem.

Still think Brentford was our turning point

[hogesar 9,676]

21 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

Is that the majority of the 25,000 who go to Carrow Road, the 2,000 or so who go to away games or the 100/150 to use this forum ?

Well, there were polls on this forum that were very Farke Out but I think EDP ran one too which is a much wider audience.. 

No idea on the numbers though.

Which is why my original point referred to "those on here" 🙂

[Dean Coneys boots 1,400]

I know nuance is difficult for some. But one can sincerely believe Farke had taken us as far as he could, whilst simultaneously thinking a rejoining of him and Webber at a better resourced club would be bad news for us and painful to watch. Tough on the heart even though the head knew it was time up. 

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

3 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I know nuance is difficult for some. But one can sincerely believe Farke had taken us as far as he could, whilst simultaneously thinking a rejoining of him and Webber at a better resourced club would be bad news for us and painful to watch. Tough on the heart even though the head knew it was time up. 

😍🤩😍

[Icecream Snow 761]

14 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I know nuance is difficult for some. 

And positivity 😛

[Big Vince 318]

5 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

If we do well then nobody will care much. My point is that if we start badly then their presence at Leeds if doing well will only add to the pressure at Carrow road - especially if Webber pops up there in a few weeks and starts signing great talent having signed us up with ageing journeymen before leaving.

I still feel his controlling our window at present when touted with a rival is so amateur as to being embarrassing- he should be on gardening leave 

But that's the Socialists for you, isn't it? They have been desperate for Webber to carry on as long as possible because without him they are lost. Even after 27 years they still have no clue about football and rely entirely on someone else coming in to take it off their hands. We have all seen what happens when Delia gets involved in football decisions, eg. Gunn, Adams, etc.

[norfolkngood 1,087]

If Webber had done what he said as a DOF and hired a Manager with a similar style and caused less upheaval to the squad we might not be where we are ,

that for me was worse than Farke going ,

It is not Farke going to leeds that is the problem for me (great in champs not PL ) ,

it is the style of play and passion that he will bring that we never replaced for me ,

If we had continued the work farke started instead of throwing it away i am sure we would be looking down at leeds saying well done good appointment 

 

 

 

 

[Newtopia 517]

I think the decision to play 4 3 3 screwed farke, when everyone wanted farke out it was to get someone in to use the squad which was assembled.  We then got Dean Smith and he did not really play any sort of style, and finally we have landed with Wagner who seems to prefer 4 2 3 1.  In hindsight should have let webber go and supported Farke to recruit the team he want to play 4 2 3 1, especially now it is clear Webber wanted out.

[crispeduk 282]

Have to say the quality of trolling falls off a cliff in close season – among the daftest is that weirdo who comes on here thinking that calling people socialist is an insult.

[Commonsense 624]

4 hours ago, Big Vince said:

But that's the Socialists for you, isn't it? They have been desperate for Webber to carry on as long as possible because without him they are lost. Even after 27 years they still have no clue about football and rely entirely on someone else coming in to take it off their hands. We have all seen what happens when Delia gets involved in football decisions, eg. Gunn, Adams, etc.

Warning he’s back. Same **** post as always.

[Big Vince 318]

15 hours ago, crispeduk said:

Have to say the quality of trolling falls off a cliff in close season – among the daftest is that weirdo who comes on here thinking that calling people socialist is an insult.

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Big Vince

[shefcanary 2,409]

2 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Well, if you live in France and are a top earner the state is going to take £7 in every £10. Don't you think this is robbery and that the robbing socialist state is fully deserving of insults?

We're not living in a "socialist" State but under the Tories the tax take is higher than ever it was under a Labour govt. Your point is?

[Big Vince 318]

5 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

We're not living in a "socialist" State but under the Tories the tax take is higher than ever it was under a Labour govt. Your point is?

If you think I am claiming the Tories are not socialist then you are badly mistaken. This is the reddest Tory govt in decades. They have been stealing Labour's clothes ever since Osborne quit.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Big Vince

[yellowrider120 763]

50 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

If you think I am claiming the Tories are not socialist then you are badly mistaken. This is the reddest Tory govt in decades. They have been stealing Labour's clothes ever since Osborne quit.

Agreed - borrowing at record levels, ditto taxes and uncontrolled immigration.

[shefcanary 2,409]

1 hour ago, Big Vince said:

If you think I am claiming the Tories are not socialist then you are badly mistaken. This is the reddest Tory govt in decades. They have been stealing Labour's clothes ever since Osborne quit.

That's agreed then! 😉

[hogesar 9,676]

20 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

I know nuance is difficult for some. But one can sincerely believe Farke had taken us as far as he could, whilst simultaneously thinking a rejoining of him and Webber at a better resourced club would be bad news for us and painful to watch. Tough on the heart even though the head knew it was time up. 

[Nexus_Canary 1,016]

2 hours ago, Big Vince said:

If you think I am claiming the Tories are not socialist then you are badly mistaken. This is the reddest Tory govt in decades. They have been stealing Labour's clothes ever since Osborne quit.

Wow, is that like another famous group of socialists who mixed in a bit of nationalism actually being lefty softys rather than right or centre then.

Back to the kool aid 

[Besthorpe-48 102]

Actually they are not socialists at all. They are just awful at running the country. 

[Branston Pickle 3,659]

23 hours ago, Nexus_Canary said:

Or is it like brexit when 51 percent made up of daily mail readers and 1 brain cellers voted to train wreck the country in the name of nationalism.

Well at least those idiots now have the wonderful column to read from their ‘leader’, whose ‘oven ready deal’ turned out to be full of food poisoning.

[Monty13 2,234]

22 hours ago, norfolkngood said:

If Webber had done what he said as a DOF and hired a Manager with a similar style and caused less upheaval to the squad we might not be where we are ,

that for me was worse than Farke going ,

It is not Farke going to leeds that is the problem for me (great in champs not PL ) ,

it is the style of play and passion that he will bring that we never replaced for me ,

If we had continued the work farke started instead of throwing it away i am sure we would be looking down at leeds saying well done good appointment 

 

 

 

 

To be fair I think we’d basically abandoned and thrown it away that summer, by the time Farke was sacked we’d already changed our style of play from the previous season and previous PL season with little result.

Way it seemed to me when Webber sacked Farke he’d already decided he wanted a change of direction, he just got both changes (Style and Manager) completely wrong.

[Petriix 2,838]

5 hours ago, Big Vince said:

If you think I am claiming the Tories are not socialist then you are badly mistaken. This is the reddest Tory govt in decades. They have been stealing Labour's clothes ever since Osborne quit.

Let's be absolutely clear: the Tories have trebled the national debt (from £800 billion to £2.5 trillion) in just 13 years while running every single public service into the ground. I'm no fan of Labour (other than them being the least-bad lizards) because they're far too regressive when we need significant change, but the Tories have been an absolute economic cluster****.

When Labour spaffed money up the wall we at least had things like Sure Start Centres and Tax Credits. Under the Tories we've seen local authorities actually going bankrupt due to chronic underfunding (despite unprecedented council tax rises) and schools being asset stripped. It will take generations to recover from this mess.

Wasting public money in record amounts doesn't make the Tories the same as Labour. One of them likes to give money to the people whereas the other likes to enrich their mates at the expense of all of us. I'll let you work out which is which. 

[lake district canary 4,531]

15 minutes ago, Petriix said:

Wasting public money in record amounts doesn't make the Tories the same as Labour. One of them likes to give money to the people whereas the other likes to enrich their mates at the expense of all of us. I'll let you work out which is which. 

Labour likes to give money to the people. - except it doesn't work - the last labour government left a memo, saying "good luck, there's no money left" meaning the tories inherited a basket case.  I'm no tory either, I think they have become a joke - a joke of the worst kind and something way beyond any kind of natural conservatism.

I would dearly love to have proportional representation and get rid of these facile, morally bankrupt institutions of two party politics. Not because I am a Libdem, but because the country is f*cked if we carry on the way we are. The latest joke is the morbidly disgusting thing of "Boris's honours list"......I mean I ask you, how on earth has that been allowed?  

Sorry this is off topic, but that is just about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of - a disgraced prime minister giving honours to his other disgraced cronies - and no-one appears to be standing up to him.....ooh, Sunak doesn't want to offend the far right.......WHAT??  Do the right thing and cancel the honours list and stuff......"oh, I can't, it'll mean we will cause more rifts in our party".......well I tell you what, if you don't show some backbone, we'll get Labour in and the whole sorry saga of spend, spend, spend will start again, followed by a return to Conervatives after five years and more cronieism and the rich looking after the rich. What we really need is a radical change in politics - PR would be a start.

Oh - and on topic, good luck to Daniel, wherever he ends up, even if it is at Leeds.

 

[Petriix 2,838]

4 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Labour likes to give money to the people. - except it doesn't work - the last labour government left a memo, saying "good luck, there's no money left" meaning the tories inherited a basket case.

The actual 'joke' was the memo itself. It was literally a joke. The Tories inherited a recovering economy which was measurably on the up after a global financial crisis caused by the US sub-prime mortgage market collapsing. Years of austerity crushed that recovery, then the financial self-immolation of Brexit knocked 20% off the value of the pound overnight and paved the way for the ridiculous inflation we're facing now. Labour have historically borrowed less than the Tories even prior to the last decade.

Actually giving money to people does work because they spend it straight back into the economy. Giving money to banks, on the other hand, creates huge asset bubbles which are great for hedge fund managers and pension pots, but terrible for ordinary people, especially those who aren't on the housing ladder. With increasing automation and the advent of AI, a universal basic income is pretty much inevitable - unless you'd prefer most people to starve? 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Petriix

[Big Vince 318]

38 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Labour likes to give money to the people. - except it doesn't work - the last labour government left a memo, saying "good luck, there's no money left" meaning the tories inherited a basket case.  I'm no tory either, I think they have become a joke - a joke of the worst kind and something way beyond any kind of natural conservatism.

I would dearly love to have proportional representation and get rid of these facile, morally bankrupt institutions of two party politics. Not because I am a Libdem, but because the country is f*cked if we carry on the way we are. The latest joke is the morbidly disgusting thing of "Boris's honours list"......I mean I ask you, how on earth has that been allowed?  

Sorry this is off topic, but that is just about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of - a disgraced prime minister giving honours to his other disgraced cronies - and no-one appears to be standing up to him.....ooh, Sunak doesn't want to offend the far right.......WHAT??  Do the right thing and cancel the honours list and stuff......"oh, I can't, it'll mean we will cause more rifts in our party".......well I tell you what, if you don't show some backbone, we'll get Labour in and the whole sorry saga of spend, spend, spend will start again, followed by a return to Conervatives after five years and more cronieism and the rich looking after the rich. What we really need is a radical change in politics - PR would be a start.

Oh - and on topic, good luck to Daniel, wherever he ends up, even if it is at Leeds.

 

For once, I agree with you. We are governed by political pygmies and casting a vote for anyone at the next election is going to be a nigh impossible task. They are all as morally repugnant as each other.

I disagree about PR though. Enlightened dictatorship would be ideal.

[yellowrider120 763]

Absolute 50:50 right now between Vieira and Farke it seems for the Leeds job. Certainly been dragging on a while.

[yellow_belly 226]

I hope that Farke goes to Leeds, he was poor without Buendia. 
 

..and I hope Webber goes there, he was nothing without Kieran Scott etc

Easy 6 points!