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Krul is one of our highest earners, and I doubt we get much change out of £2m a year for his wages. If we can get a transfer fee as well as saving on the wages, I wouldn't be opposed to this happening as Gunn is no worse nowadays and could do with regular games to develop further. We could then sign a cheaper backup and use the money saved for a defender or two.

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I guess the prestige and no doubt improved wages of joining Man U, would be tempting, but would have to weighed up with not getting any game time. Krul has spent a lot of time as a number two, would he want to go back to that, or would he have the drive/ self belief that he could take over as number one? As for the WC, it could be argued playing the odd good game for them would give him a better chance than playing in the championship, especially if he plays in a high profile game or two and impresses.

But he would also potentially drop down to third choice if/when Henderson returns.

From the club's point of view it only makes sense if they pay over the odds for him, which they always do in transfers.

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I wouldn't favour losing Krul. He is as important as any other player in the squad in the quest for that rebound that most of us, not all apparently, aspire to.

However, I do believe that Angus Gunn would be a good replacement, having had some doubts in the past.

Being unaware of the current strength of our immediate youth back-up, I remain hopeful for young Barden. He has really impressed as stand in on occasions. 

Let's hope his lone move gives him a chance to recover from his serious set-back and that he becomes the performer that his promise indicated.

Let these be considerations for next season, though.

One more season from Krul please. This season is important. We need to cling on to our best, our stalwarts, our backbone. The longer a team remains in the Chumps, the harder it gets.

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IF this happens, what are people's thoughts on Gunn's back-up? McGovern has never let us down but he's 36 and an injury away from retirement. We were supposed to be interested in the keeper that went to Leeds whose name I can't remember but I'm struggling to think of not only a back-up, but someone who can push Gunn on to challenge for 1st choice

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Having read this thread I fully expect Ten Hag to send his kids with a hand written "Can I have your goalkeeper, please?" banner.

 

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For Krul is could be one big payday and an easy retirement as a second goalkeeper you can get 10 more years at his age

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Why on earth would a 34 year old goalkeeper looking to force his way into the Dutch World Cup squad join a team to be 2nd/3rd choice when his best chance is plying week in, week out?

oh yeah, money.

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I really like Krul, but we all know he's got a mistake in him. Realistically, is he that close to the Dutch squad?

And if he is, is it largely because of how good he is at pens? Which would still remain true if he's on the Utd bench 

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1 hour ago, kirku said:

I really like Krul, but we all know he's got a mistake in him. Realistically, is he that close to the Dutch squad?

And if he is, is it largely because of how good he is at pens? Which would still remain true if he's on the Utd bench 

He is definitely close to being in the Dutch squad, as he has been in it pretty regularly. Whether he’d be first choice is entirely different, but he’d have little-to-no chance if he’s warming the bench at Man U.

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Sky Sports are now saying that Man Utd are homing in on Monchengladbach keeper Sommer as their back up keeper, I wonder if Farke would then come after Krul. 

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1 minute ago, Top corner said:

Sky Sports are now saying that Man Utd are homing in on Monchengladbach keeper Sommer as their back up keeper, I wonder if Farke would then come after Krul. 

Maybe but Krul’s status as a ‘homegrown’ player and a good keeper makes him gold dust to the top 6 and worth a lot more. Think Rob Green at Chelsea. As mentioned though that would all but end his World Cup hopes. 

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Think Tim has his retirement plan in Norfolk already laid out if I have heard correctly.
Like a lot of aging players,  once you take a young family to Norfolk you dont really want to go anywhere else in the country. 

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43 minutes ago, WD40 said:

Maybe but Krul’s status as a ‘homegrown’ player and a good keeper makes him gold dust to the top 6 and worth a lot more. Think Rob Green at Chelsea. As mentioned though that would all but end his World Cup hopes. 

Or Carson who is still at City 

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6 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Krul and Gunn are an ideal pair to have as main goalkeepers at the club. Lose one of them and we are weaker. Need them both imo.

I disagree, it’s pretty rare to have two goalkeepers on almost equal footing between them. Certainly a good thing to have genuine competition, but if the first 11 can be improved or if we can field a left back who is a genuine left back I think those would take priority.

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11 hours ago, OnDaBall said:

I guess the prestige and no doubt improved wages of joining Man U, would be tempting

And the growing Dutch contingent.

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14 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

I disagree, it’s pretty rare to have two goalkeepers on almost equal footing between them.

Sorry but they are simple not on the same level, Krul is a Premier League and International standard keeper and Angus Gunn is somebody who will do in the Championship. Lose Krul and we weaken our first XI, its a bad idea.

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3 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

Sorry but they are simple not on the same level, Krul is a Premier League and International standard keeper and Angus Gunn is somebody who will do in the Championship. Lose Krul and we weaken our first XI, its a bad idea.

I did say almost equal footing… of course Krul has the stronger history but is he as good as keeper now as he has been in the past few years? With Gunn much the younger I do think if not this season then next will be the one where their paths finally cross over, and Gunn will flourish with regular game time IMO.

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1 minute ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

I did say almost equal footing… of course Krul has the stronger history but is he as good as keeper now as he has been in the past few years? With Gunn much the younger I do think if not this season then next will be the one where their paths finally cross over, and Gunn will flourish with regular game time IMO.

I think what we lose in Krul is a leader, and Gunn is far too quiet and non-vocal. 

When he had his season long loan here I assumed that as he grew up and got a few hairs on his chest he might become a bit more alpha, but he's never shouting at his defence or ordering people about.

If we're serious about a title challenge this season, then lets keep our winners. 

I mean, if we really have to though, lets at least bring in another experienced keeper to seriously challenge Gunn.... because McGovern just doesn't cut the mustard.

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1 hour ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I think what we lose in Krul is a leader, and Gunn is far too quiet and non-vocal. 

When he had his season long loan here I assumed that as he grew up and got a few hairs on his chest he might become a bit more alpha, but he's never shouting at his defence or ordering people about.

If we're serious about a title challenge this season, then lets keep our winners. 

I mean, if we really have to though, lets at least bring in another experienced keeper to seriously challenge Gunn.... because McGovern just doesn't cut the mustard.

Ben foster is out in the universe somewhere 😂 1 year deal to push Angus? 

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This time in the transfer window is horrible.  Tbh Pukki, Rashica, and Krul or Gunn, plus a number of the attacking midfielders probably could be gone by the end of the transfer window.  As TVB said it would be Krul's leadership which we would miss.  I think it is wrong to down play down Gunn, he is capable keeper.  For me either Tim or Angus will leave shortly, personally I trust Tim to help us through if we are struggling for form, yet I can't see Angus wanting to be a back up this season, it makes no sense for him.

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I would have no issue with Krul going. Gunn is the better goalkeeper and isn't as error prone. Would drive him to Manchester myself for anything £5m plus

 

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13 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I think what we lose in Krul is a leader, and Gunn is far too quiet and non-vocal. 

When he had his season long loan here I assumed that as he grew up and got a few hairs on his chest he might become a bit more alpha, but he's never shouting at his defence or ordering people about.

Strange. His father often wasn’t slow to have a rant at the defence and couldn’t keep his hair on.

In more ways than one. 

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Very mixed feelings on this one , some prefer krul, some prefer gunn , I would have said krul my a mile a year ago, but now I would say krul by a small amount, as I think gunn has improved , but I think it's really important two keep both.

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I don't understand fans who think more about the clubs finances than having the best squad possible. 

Krul isn't getting to the WC by being 2nd or 3rd choice at Man Utd. We are looking to win the league and need as good a 2nd XI as we have first, and Krul will have to earn his place here but will play most matches.

As far as I'm concerned Krul, Aarons and Pukki are all staying. They can take McGovern on loan if they like - for a fee.

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13 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

I think what we lose in Krul is a leader, and Gunn is far too quiet and non-vocal.

I agree that Krul is a better goaly than Gunn at this stage, but you can't sit too near either goal if you think this. Angus Gunn is not in the least bit quiet or non-vocal, he's not quite at his Dad's level, but I hear him shouting more than Krul to be fair.

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33 minutes ago, canarydan23 said:

I agree that Krul is a better goaly than Gunn at this stage, but you can't sit too near either goal if you think this. Angus Gunn is not in the least bit quiet or non-vocal, he's not quite at his Dad's level, but I hear him shouting more than Krul to be fair.

Krul shouts a lot, but doesnt seem to have much influence on what happens at the back. He is hardly a calming influence with his kicking and irrational decision making.

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