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To be fair it's like we can't win regardless I suppose. Try playing fast, flowing football under Farke? We get torn apart and lose 5-0, althoguh we might score a goal.. Then we can now try some Smithball, and sit back and play 11 behind the ball for 90 minutes. Sure, it's boring but there is a chance we might scrape a point after 90 minutes of suffering and pain.

 

Neither of those two are much fun

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Things are going from bad to worse or to put it another way, it was never ever this bad under Chris Hughton 

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It's dire at the moment, but surely people understand why we are playing like we are?  It's not lack of effort or lack of trying (and if anyone there is not trying they should be hoiked out of the squad), they are imo obviously trying hard - it is just a sign of where we are at the moment.  Sometimes digging in is what you have to do.  Farke dug in and we started getting points (then he was stupidly sacked). Smith has dug in for the same reason - to dig out points - and lo and behold we got one - and it is something to build on. 

As a football supporter you have to take the rough with the smooth, but some people don't seem able to do that - it all has to be how they want it or they kick off and throw their toys out of the pram. How long does it take a person to understand that you have to have down times so that you can more appreciate the good times? If life was always wonderful, then it would not be life.

 

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10 minutes ago, Bert said:

Things are going from bad to worse or to put it another way, it was never ever this bad under Chris Hughton 

No, No, No.
I draw the line here, that was the lowest point In my memory. Worse than the relegation to league one.

I still remember a cold afternoon in Norwich going 0-1 down in the first 10 minutes and thinking to myself..
 "hmmm ive got some student work to mark at home." (im a school teacher) To proritise work before... well ... anything is beyond belief. I can tell you the football was THAT bad.

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I keep saying, throw the chuckle brothers out the door as soon as we are mathmatically down and get in a ambitious manager who will play exciting football and at least give it a go.

Id rather be watching Farkeball and taking a 4-0 thumping every week than whatever slop Smith is putting out, its not quite Nice Guy Chris 12 men behind the ball but it is leaning more toward that than expansive or entertaining.

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28 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

I keep saying, throw the chuckle brothers out the door as soon as we are mathmatically down and get in a ambitious manager who will play exciting football and at least give it a go.

Id rather be watching Farkeball and taking a 4-0 thumping every week than whatever slop Smith is putting out, its not quite Nice Guy Chris 12 men behind the ball but it is leaning more toward that than expansive or entertaining.

i must admit it is getting a bit worrying 

a Really good Manager would raise the game of the players 10/15 % and we are not seeing that 

it is well known any team in the PL on their day can beat any team we look a million miles from that 

how teams in the FA Cup come out fighting and at least making in hard for PL teams sometimes teams 2/3 divisions lower 

i think we really need a good clear out of deadwood and re build the team last summer might put us back 2/3 seasons 

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52 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

I keep saying, throw the chuckle brothers out the door as soon as we are mathmatically down and get in a ambitious manager who will play exciting football and at least give it a go.

Id rather be watching Farkeball and taking a 4-0 thumping every week than whatever slop Smith is putting out, its not quite Nice Guy Chris 12 men behind the ball but it is leaning more toward that than expansive or entertaining.

That's harsh on Smith; he's an attacking coach generally, but the lack of options available to him and our current circumstances are preventing him from playing an expansive game.

In his three seasons at Villa:

2018/19, Championship: Playoff winners, third highest scorers

2019/20, Premier League: survived by a point, but second-highest scorers in the bottom eight 

2021/21, Premier League: 11th place, but outside of the 'big six', only West Ham and Leeds scored more.

Given the chance to shape his own squad next season, which should in theory be a strong one given our resources in the Championship, I'm sure we'll see quite a positive, attacking approach from Smith.

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1 minute ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

2019/20, Premier League: survived by a point, Hawkeye / VAR failure but second-highest scorers in the bottom eight

corrected that for you. 

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I have zero faith in the man.
Id love to eat humble pie and be proven wrong, but the minute his name came out as a candidate for the job I was horrified. 

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24 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

i must admit it is getting a bit worrying 

a Really good Manager would raise the game of the players 10/15 % and we are not seeing that 

it is well known any team in the PL on their day can beat any team we look a million miles from that 

how teams in the FA Cup come out fighting and at least making in hard for PL teams sometimes teams 2/3 divisions lower 

i think we really need a good clear out of deadwood and re build the team last summer might put us back 2/3 seasons 

The deadest wood at the club is the Socialists. Any clear out has to start there.

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4 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

I have zero faith in the man.
Id love to eat humble pie and be proven wrong, but the minute his name came out as a candidate for the job I was horrified. 

I didn't mind him in principle (if say, someone had come in and poached Farke) for a similar like for like replacement, but he's certainly not someone who can take us forwards which is the disappointing thing. Safely, safely, Norwich always

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3 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

The point was that his Villa side was always an attacking one; even if they had gone down, it doesn't change the fact they would've been the second-highest scorers in the bottom eight.

Fair point - but they must have conceded a fair few too -  to be in that position in the league. 

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14 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

That's harsh on Smith; he's an attacking coach generally, but the lack of options available to him and our current circumstances are preventing him from playing an expansive game.

In his three seasons at Villa:

2018/19, Championship: Playoff winners, third highest scorers

2019/20, Premier League: survived by a point, but second-highest scorers in the bottom eight 

2021/21, Premier League: 11th place, but outside of the 'big six', only West Ham and Leeds scored more.

Given the chance to shape his own squad next season, which should in theory be a strong one given our resources in the Championship, I'm sure we'll see quite a positive, attacking approach from Smith.

You are Lakey and I claim my £5.

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12 minutes ago, Greavsy said:

Fair point - but they must have conceded a fair few too -  to be in that position in the league. 

Of course. But the point here was that he was being criticised for not playing exciting football, which is just not fair.

Lambert's teams here conceded quite a few goals, in respect to league position, but they always scored a lot. The same is true of Smith at Villa. It's just that he doesn't have the players available to do that here.

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1 hour ago, Duncan Edwards said:

I'd be more impressed if you could find one written by a happy fan.

There is a few on here...

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Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but with Pukki and Idah up front I thought we looked a genuine threat.  We've just found ourselves shafted again, and lacking cover.

I don't feel too down about it, but seeing players like Sorensen and Tzolis being left out, is my biggest bugbear really. 

There's zero progression with Normann and Gilmour - Farke done the same with Skipp, we should've been using Sorensen after we secured promotion and give that position a real assessment as to what we had at the club already.  Instead Skipp was played until injury.

We have once again got that opportunity at a higher level and it feels that we're going to, once again, **** it up the wall.  That's the most painful part of this season right now - just stop pretending we have a chance and focus on the real goal.

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34 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Of course. But the point here was that he was being criticised for not playing exciting football, which is just not fair.

Lambert's teams here conceded quite a few goals, in respect to league position, but they always scored a lot. The same is true of Smith at Villa. It's just that he doesn't have the players available to do that here.

But Villa spent £100M in his first season up in the EPL. So are you saying that as he won't have the same money to spend next season, he won't be able to attack?

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Lets clear out rhe deadwood.  But unfortunately most of the deadwood are still under contract except Rupp and maybe Zimm.  And having performed as badly as they have this season noone will want to sign them.  Could pay up the contracts and get rid, but self funding finances make this impracticle.  We will work next seasson with what we've got maybe with addition of a few Villa bargain rejects.

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3 hours ago, TIL 1010 said:

https://www.pinkun.com/sport/norwich-city/ncfc-fanzone-what-have-norwich-city-become-8803654?fbclid=IwAR02VK7sa45sTtRCrx_l2wVafmOG8Em742TdLoXHTUEZsGYf9_-yy_a_heQ

Mind you i am not too sure where Philip Pullman , Delia or Stephen Fry fit in with regards to the removal of Chase.

"And the fans who’ve reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road, who campaigned successfully to remove Robert Chase, who include Philip Pullman, Delia Smith and Stephen Fry".

I think you've misred that. She isn't saying that those 3 removed Chase. She's including them as being part of the fan base who reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road. 

But as usual, I might be wrong.... 

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3 hours ago, TIL 1010 said:

https://www.pinkun.com/sport/norwich-city/ncfc-fanzone-what-have-norwich-city-become-8803654?fbclid=IwAR02VK7sa45sTtRCrx_l2wVafmOG8Em742TdLoXHTUEZsGYf9_-yy_a_heQ

Mind you i am not too sure where Philip Pullman , Delia or Stephen Fry fit in with regards to the removal of Chase.

Any article from Archant should be treated with caution as regards to its factual accuracy and this clearly didn't need a sacked sub editor to point out its inaccuracies or blatant mistruths. 

Yet another so called Norwich fan who will not admit - at least in print - where the issues really lie. Would they be allowed to? No.

Only a matter of time before Archant claim that Delia managed to stop a meteorite hitting earth, eradicated the common cold, how NCFC are the envy of the Football League and other such whoppers. 

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If Di Cunningham was straight she wouldn’t be doing “opinion “pieces in the edp or getting interviewed on local telly. 

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18 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

"And the fans who’ve reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road, who campaigned successfully to remove Robert Chase, who include Philip Pullman, Delia Smith and Stephen Fry".

I think you've misred that. She isn't saying that those 3 removed Chase. She's including them as being part of the fan base who reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road. 

But as usual, I might be wrong.... 

What the hell The Cook and Stephen Fry have got to do with..........'reinventing the atmosphere at Carrow Road' I really don't know but (as another poster has said) it's just another Happy Clapper insinuating how wonderful our owners are!

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1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

That's harsh on Smith; he's an attacking coach generally, but the lack of options available to him and our current circumstances are preventing him from playing an expansive game.

In his three seasons at Villa:

2018/19, Championship: Playoff winners, third highest scorers

2019/20, Premier League: survived by a point, but second-highest scorers in the bottom eight 

2021/21, Premier League: 11th place, but outside of the 'big six', only West Ham and Leeds scored more.

Given the chance to shape his own squad next season, which should in theory be a strong one given our resources in the Championship, I'm sure we'll see quite a positive, attacking approach from Smith.

Yep.

Also worth remembering that the beloved Farke get a season of serving up turgid dross before Farkeball clicked into gear. 

Very weird to write Smith off based on 2/3rds of a season with an undermanned, confidence lacking squad of players not bought for his style of play.

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20 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

"And the fans who’ve reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road, who campaigned successfully to remove Robert Chase, who include Philip Pullman, Delia Smith and Stephen Fry".

I think you've misred that. She isn't saying that those 3 removed Chase. She's including them as being part of the fan base who reinve

21 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

"And the fans who’ve reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road, who campaigned successfully to remove Robert Chase, who include Philip Pullman, Delia Smith and Stephen Fry".

I think you've misred that. She isn't saying that those 3 removed Chase. She's including them as being part of the fan base who reinvented the atmosphere at Carrow Road. 

But as usual, I might be wrong.... 

nted the atmosphere at Carrow Road. 

But as usual, I might be wrong.... 

People getting bamboozled by punctuation. 😀

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1 minute ago, A Load of Squit said:

People getting bamboozled by punctuation. 😀

We should put commas in the teamsheet on Sunday. Then step back and watch Sean Dyche scratch his head 

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