CDMullins 436 Posted August 29, 2021 Arranging to turn Gibson/Dimi to permanents for decent money? With Williams destined for first choice and seemingly another centre back coming in, did we pull the trigger too soon on these two wasting valuable £? Reminds me of the contracts we handed out a couple of year back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markdmhoward 74 Posted August 29, 2021 More like people writing them off too early 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,720 Posted August 29, 2021 'With Williams destined for first choice' Says who? He's only here for a season while Dimi is here for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTBC06 43 Posted August 29, 2021 How about strength on depth 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 372 Posted August 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, CDMullins said: Arranging to turn Gibson/Dimi to permanents for decent money? With Williams destined for first choice and seemingly another centre back coming in, did we pull the trigger too soon on these two wasting valuable £? Reminds me of the contracts we handed out a couple of year back. No way. About 6 months ago dimi was the best lb we've had for years. 2 tough games against Liverpool and man city and now he's a waste of money? Same as Gibson, loads of people creamed their pants saying what a great idea by webber.. zzzzz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruk4 60 Posted August 29, 2021 Gibson has been great and Dimi obviously has potential to be great as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jsim1986 149 Posted August 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, shruk4 said: Gibson has been great and Dimi obviously has potential to be great as well Gibson has been great!? In the champs yeah, been shocking so far in prem 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ward 3 said: My Q wasn't a dig at Gibson/Dimi. But whether the money we'd spent could have been better spent elsewhere? Having BW and Dimi must be pricey, And appears we are in the market for a new CB, meaning one of club captain or new signing Gibson will be back up. Yes, I know it's a squad game. Edited August 29, 2021 by CDMullins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted August 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ward 3 said: No way. About 6 months ago dimi was the best lb we've had for years. 2 tough games against Liverpool and man city and now he's a waste of money? Same as Gibson, loads of people creamed their pants saying what a great idea by webber.. zzzzz Let's be right, Dimi's been our best left back, since our last left back. Jamal is superior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 372 Posted August 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, CDMullins said: Let's be right, Dimi's been our best left back, since our last left back. Jamal is superior. I think Lewis is alright but I think dimi is a better all rounder. Dimi our best left back since drury? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,773 Posted August 29, 2021 People need to remember Gibson was injured at the end of last season, he's in effect in his pre season stage at the moment, he's not back up to full speed yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,773 Posted August 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, CDMullins said: Let's be right, Dimi's been our best left back, since our last left back. Jamal is superior. Totally disagree with that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet 293 Posted August 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, CDMullins said: Arranging to turn Gibson/Dimi to permanents for decent money? With Williams destined for first choice and seemingly another centre back coming in, did we pull the trigger too soon on these two wasting valuable £? Reminds me of the contracts we handed out a couple of year back. Dimi is a full international and Gibson is decent I think Farke is not the best defensive coach. Our whole defence is capable but they are marking shadows at the moment. When Houghton gets sacked give him a defensive coaching role for 12 months, better than house work or gardening all day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted August 29, 2021 Well let’s see what impact our new DM has on that defense eh? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,129 Posted August 29, 2021 Christ, let's give it more than three games before we decide eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,099 Posted August 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, CDMullins said: Let's be right, Dimi's been our best left back, since our last left back. Jamal is superior. Disagree - Jamal was good going forward but dimi is a better option all round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,168 Posted August 29, 2021 Jesus H. This thread is infected with immaturity. Some just don't sway with the wind, they sway with a breeze. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 29, 2021 I think Farke will revert back to Gianoullis for the Arsenal. It was right to give Williams a go and it's good to have competition in all areas of the pitch, but Dimi is a better option going forward being the natural left footer. Williams is used to having better players around him and not bothered about taking risks and making errors. This is Norwich though and he needs to get the basics right first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,412 Posted August 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, Yobocop said: Disagree - Jamal was good going forward but dimi is a better option all round He wea good going forward about 80% of the way before cutting inside and passing to a midfielder. Dimi gets to byline and attempts to create things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 372 Posted August 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Yobocop said: Disagree - Jamal was good going forward but dimi is a better option all round My view too!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,625 Posted August 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said: Jesus H. This thread is infected with immaturity. Some just don't sway with the wind, they sway with a breeze. Or the force of a wet fart... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, CDMullins said: Jamal is superio Jamal is a very limited footballer. we mugged Newcastle. Giannoulis will prove to be superior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted August 29, 2021 Regarding the OP question, absolutely not, as the Championship win alone amply proved. Let them play together for a couple of seasons and get more time together, and they'll be a better-drilled unit. Throw in Tzolis, who already knows Giannoulis well from PAOK and Greece, and we should have plenty of fun there for a few years. A lot is going to depend on the midfield structure so if Normann can turn the ball over enough to take the pressure off, that will also help. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bovril 219 Posted August 29, 2021 You can't judge Dimi on two games at home to Liverpool and away to Manchester City. He wouldn't be the first left-back to be outplayed by Salah and the City attack. It only tells you that he is not in the elite, world-class bracket but then I don't think many were expecting that. Judge him on the games again Palace, Wolves, Newcastle etc. if he's on the pitch. This is when we need them to stand up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,165 Posted August 29, 2021 This is a joke thread right? Since you don't seem to know much about Norwich City let me remind you. In the case of both Gibson and Gianoullis the deals which allowed us to bring them to the club in the first place stipulated that if we won promotion to the Premier League we would be obligated to buy them at a pre-agreed price. This was extensively reported at the time and many times since. Once we had won promotion to the Premier League we were obligated to buy them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,625 Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, CDMullins said: Arranging to turn Gibson/Dimi to permanents for decent money? No. Giannoulis was £6-7m and Gibson was £8m. The fact that we have struggled to sign as good or better for the same or similar suggests that they were on point for value. Ajer was signed for a deal that could add up to £17m(ish), £13.5m plus add ons. Is he massively better than Gibson? That's what we're talking about here. Joe Worral supposedly has a price of £15m on his head and in some ways, he is Gibson before he moved to Burnley - a promising young Championship CB. Is he twice as good as Gibson? Gibson is better than Klose and better than Zimmermann. So he was worth the money to improve the team. Is this thread premature? You bet. Should a fair number of folks calm down and wait a bit longer to judge/spit their dummies out? Most certainly, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted August 29, 2021 I think this one is easy to explain, and I have no doubt Giannoulis is our first choice, no doubt at all. But we still needed quality cover there, as in any position, and the cover needs to be of said sufficient quality should Dimi get injured or suspended. Cricially, it also needs to be of comparable quality in order to push Dimi to be the number 1. There is zero point in having someone in back up whom is levels below the first choice. What we’re seeing playing out right now is *exactly* what we want, 100%. Brandon made a mistake on Saturday, as all players do, and now I suspect Giannoulis will be back in for Arsenal. We need this all over the pitch, and that goes for Gibson too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,821 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) If we didn't sign those two for a combined £13m, we would've had to sign two other players for their positions. Could we have found better players than those two, which the prospective new signings would clearly need to be as Gibson and Giannoulis were both already integrated into the squad? (My point is that I don't think we could have, by the way). Edited August 30, 2021 by Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,099 Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, chicken said: No. Giannoulis was £6-7m and Gibson was £8m. The fact that we have struggled to sign as good or better for the same or similar suggests that they were on point for value. Ajer was signed for a deal that could add up to £17m(ish), £13.5m plus add ons. Is he massively better than Gibson? That's what we're talking about here. Joe Worral supposedly has a price of £15m on his head and in some ways, he is Gibson before he moved to Burnley - a promising young Championship CB. Is he twice as good as Gibson? Gibson is better than Klose and better than Zimmermann. So he was worth the money to improve the team. Is this thread premature? You bet. Should a fair number of folks calm down and wait a bit longer to judge/spit their dummies out? Most certainly, yes. Sums it up perfectly for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,221 Posted August 29, 2021 I think people also vastly underestimate just how good Skipp was last year as well 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites