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[repman 738]

Got nothing against Cuesta and obviously he's highly rated but I would hope Knapper will also go through a proper process before making any appointment. The SD and manager should forge a good working relationship once they're in the role, not necessarily have one beforehand. It's the same as what happened here with Webber and Wagner. 

[Yellow Fever 4,388]

1 minute ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

Many clubs keep feelers out for potential managers and players as good business practices should they need to act on them. Perhaps these feelers are all it’s been and it’s just become public. I would be more shocked if knapper didn’t have a list of potential players and managers he was in dialogue with to keep sweet for potential future moves. Just seems like good planning to always be a step ahead should you get caught short. 

Nothing wrong with succession planning - but succession planning with a date in mind?

It stinks (and frankly why its almost certainly not true as that would be sackable offence in any company for gross incompetence)

[Cowboy 234]

28 minutes ago, sgncfc said:

Depends how far back you go. Since we played 1p5wich we have won 5, drawn 3 and lost 3. 18 points from 11 games. It's play off form, just about, but not quite as spectacular as some would have us believe. I would still suggest that some of those good results have been in spite of the manager rather than because of him.

Even if we squeak up through the playoffs I don't want him here next season.

It's also results, not form, and I doubt many would feel comfortable that it represents anything close to a promotion-capable team.

[JonnyJonnyRowe 898]

20 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

I Agree about some of the Games if it was not for a player pulling out something special it would be a different sorry 

Surely you could say the exact same thing about every manager at every club.

Farke and Emi

Simeone Jacksons little run of greatness under Lambert 

That crucial Mulryne goal for Worthy

So what does this even mean?

[norfolkngood 1,172]

1 minute ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said:

Surely you could say the exact same thing about every manager at every club.

Farke and Emi

Simeone Jacksons little run of greatness under Lambert 

That crucial Mulryne goal for Worthy

So what does this even mean?

i get your point ,and you are right , 

just seems to me Wagner does strange things that gets us in trouble so we need these moments more ? 

we just do not seem in such control of games as we did under Farke etc 

maybe it is just the way i see wagner that clouds judgement more ! 

[g00se 33]

8 minutes ago, norfolkngood said:

That is exactly where Webber went wrong ,

Webber and Zoe both said the club practices this monitoring managers around the world etc as a just in case in the past ,

Webber didn't have a Manager lined up if Farke left or needed replacing and went for Smith ,

 

I thought the rumour was he had Knusten lined up after Farke, but panicked and went for Smith as he had Prem experience of keeping Villa up the previous season. 

Then when approaching Knutsen again after getting rid of Smith, Knutsen told him to f**k off in Norwegian....

[Soldier on 273]

10 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

Nothing wrong with succession planning - but succession planning with a date in mind?

It stinks (and frankly why its almost certainly not true as that would be sackable offence in any company for gross incompetence)

 

10 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

Nothing wrong with succession planning - but succession planning with a date in mind?

It stinks (and frankly why its almost certainly not true as that would be sackable offence in any company for gross incompetence)

Not necessarily club may know that there is a break clause if Wagner doesn’t make top 6. A no brainer to do due diligence on replacements surely ?

[JonnyJonnyRowe 898]

2 minutes ago, g00se said:

I thought the rumour was he had Knusten lined up after Farke, but panicked and went for Smith as he had Prem experience of keeping Villa up the previous season. 

Then when approaching Knutsen again after getting rid of Smith, Knutsen told him to f**k off in Norwegian....

Knutsen has never had any interest in leaving Bodo Glimt, he is even said to have turned down Brighton the last time they had a vacancy.

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

12 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

Nothing wrong with succession planning - but succession planning with a date in mind?

It stinks (and frankly why its almost certainly not true as that would be sackable offence in any company for gross incompetence)

If that’s when he has in his mind he wants to make the change I don’t see the issue. It’s football it’s a cutthroat business and knapper has to run the club the way he thinks is best not how Webber thought was best. It’s harsh on Wagner but he’ll get a good pay off if it happens and worse things have happened at sea than this. 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,529]

23 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Hire a sporting director with no experience in the role on the cheap.

Planning to hire a manager with no experience in the role on the cheap.

There are few Sporting Directors around (a maximum of one at any club, and many clubs don't have one) which makes it tough to attract one with good experience.

You've basically got three choices:

- Sign one from a smaller club who is making a big step up

- Sign one with experience from a similar sized club who has probably not succeeded, hence their availability

- Sign someone working in a lesser role at a bigger club

Personally, I think the latter is often the best choice. They can bring some ideas from said bigger club and they have a hunger to prove themselves in their own right.

Also, as has been said, some of the best managers in this division in recent times have been hired from the backroom staff of bigger clubs, and they should be judged on what they may do in the future based on their experience rather than judging them solely on their past.

 

7 minutes ago, ZLF said:

I'm not adverse to changing manager upon promotion;  long held a view that the two leagues are so different it's nit uncommon to see coaches get promotion but only relegated from pl.    Would be virtually unprecedented though and def not the norwich way.  

Extremely rare in this country but more common in others. I follow Italian football quite closely and both players and managers often get pigeon-holed halfway through their careers as promotion specialists or relegation specialists, or being excellent in Serie B but not up to Serie A. It doesn't matter how well they did in getting promotion: they're not getting another chance in Serie A if they've flopped once or twice before.

So for that reason, I would not be opposed to starting with a clean slate if we go up, including a new manager and an entirely new back four.

[Soldier on 273]

4 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

If that’s when he has in his mind he wants to make the change I don’t see the issue. It’s football it’s a cutthroat business and knapper has to run the club the way he thinks is best not how Webber thought was best. It’s harsh on Wagner but he’ll get a good pay off if it happens and worse things have happened at sea than this. 

He 

 

4 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

If that’s when he has in his mind he wants to make the change I don’t see the issue. It’s football it’s a cutthroat business and knapper has to run the club the way he thinks is best not how Webber thought was best. It’s harsh on Wagner but he’ll get a good pay off if it happens and worse things have happened at sea than this. 

might not get a pay off if there’s a break clause on missing out on top 6??

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

Just now, Soldier on said:

He 

 

might not get a pay off if there’s a break clause on missing out on top 6??

We finished 11th last season didn’t we? 

[Soldier on 273]

Yes but Webber didn’t want to change the manager so no reason why we would activate any clause if it existed ?

[......and Smith must score. 1,554]

51 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

its a chat forum not the UN... 

I think some people on here think this place is more important than life itself ( big smile )

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

8 minutes ago, Soldier on said:

Yes but Webber didn’t want to change the manager so no reason why we would activate any clause if it existed ?

I don’t think there’s a clause he’s on a rolling 12month deal so it’s not the biggest pay off we’d have to pay regardless and I can’t imagine Wagner is on super high wages given he was unemployed before we gave him a chance 

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

34 minutes ago, repman said:

Got nothing against Cuesta and obviously he's highly rated but I would hope Knapper will also go through a proper process before making any appointment. The SD and manager should forge a good working relationship once they're in the role, not necessarily have one beforehand. It's the same as what happened here with Webber and Wagner. 

Slightly different though as Cuesta has a role at a large club and is highly thought of and respected at that club and Wagner was sat at home on the giro before we gave him a chance. 

[dylanisabaddog 5,990]

52 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Hire a sporting director with no experience in the role on the cheap.

Planning to hire a manager with no experience in the role on the cheap.

 

This club

 

Dave Stringer

Mike Walker

Binny McKenna 

[baldy09 187]

1 hour ago, shefcanary said:

These rumours do keep persisting. There must be something in it, surely? 

Lets hope so - though I do believe it wont be the board who want rid of him - I think Wagner now getting very unsettled and now want a move especially after the outburst on Tuesday

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,808]

I actually like this, and I'm pretty sure there was a fair few saying his name when knapper came in and it was looking like wags had to go. 

 

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

2 minutes ago, baldy09 said:

Lets hope so - though I do believe it wont be the board who want rid of him - I think Wagner now getting very unsettled and now want a move especially after the outburst on Tuesday

Him already knowing about this possibly explains the outburst

Edited February 15 by Ken Hairy

[shefcanary 2,901]

I have been pondering what is going on at Colney today.

Wagner has said he doesn't look at social media at all, hence the surprise he emoted on Tuesday evening to the booing - any savvy internet watcher would have expected something like that for years and would have reacted differently - probably with a joke. I sure as well given his serious nature that Wagner has continued to focus on players and tactics rather than "gossip" in his conversations this morning. So, on that basis, Wagner should not have a clue about this rumour.

Knapper on the other hand says he is very much aware of social media debate and the noise surrounding the club. Thus he is pretty much nailed on to have seen this surface and coming from the guardian he will be aware it must have come from either Norwich, Arsenal or cuesta's representatives. The rumour is no fan generated tittle-tattle for a serious newspaper to have made such a big deal of it. Someone has been talking. And I am sure Knapper will be fuming.  

So, what kind of conversation will the pair have had at Colney today after training as they pass each other on the way to / back from the canteen? 

"Nice weather we're having - training go alright?"

"A good work out, I've a few things I want to try out tomorrow, but my plans for Saturday are coming together".

"Great".

 

[Worthy Nigelton 1,277]

God I hope Wagner gets us up. I'd love him to win the play offs and then resign coz of all this sh*t. 

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

11 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

God I hope Wagner gets us up. I'd love him to win the play offs and then resign coz of all this sh*t. 

That’s probably the best outcome for everyone to be fair. 

[duke63 708]

I heard Cuesta was being talked about before Xmas. 
Also heard there was another ex Arsenal ex top international player being talked about. 

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,577]

28 is too young. 

[Google Bot 3,848]

33 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

God I hope Wagner gets us up. I'd love him to win the play offs and then resign coz of all this sh*t. 

I think he'd walk as a hero if he done that, and it'd earn him an instant 'bad-a55' reputation! 

Just imagine Wagner over the Wembly PA system going "Boooooo.. booooo.. boooo.." post match as we parade the trophy. 

Edited February 15 by Google Bot

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

9 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

28 is too young. 

Wasn’t Will Still about the same age when he got his job with Remmes? 

[stratton canary 159]

2 hours ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

McKenna (scum) , Corberan (West Brom) and Maresca (Leicester) all were assistant managers before being given their jobs. All 3 are now successful managers. 

And young & hungry too. 

[Capt. Pants 4,882]

55 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

God I hope Wagner gets us up. I'd love him to win the play offs and then resign coz of all this sh*t. 

Bloody hell I'd bite your hands off for that. I'd probably say the same if Farke was here.

[canarydan23 4,699]

If Wagner gets us up, there is a good chance that in doing so he will have stopped Ipswich going up. If that happens, pretty much everyone will forgive him his weird lineups and even weirder substitutions; he'll be a legend.