Dr Greenthumb 786 Posted November 29, 2023 Is this the worst thread ever created for Norwich City 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,746 Posted November 29, 2023 The guy is such a metaphor for where we are right now as a club 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 192 Posted November 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Coneys Knee said: No he’s not but he is the new scapegoat Play like he did, and you will be a scapegoat! Last season he was on loan at Birmingham and not deemed good enough for NCFC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,524 Posted November 29, 2023 There was more guile and creativity from Sainz in 15 mins last night than Hernandez in his last 2 games. All Onel seems to do these days is misplace passes and foul people, Of course a few times he will enthusiastically dribble the ball 15 yards before misplacing a pass or fouling somebody. Useless player. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 737 Posted November 29, 2023 10 hours ago, Ian said: Pacy, direct, physical, dedicated, probably on reasonable wages? If you want someone to come on and stretch play against a tiring defence I have seen far worse options over the last couple of decades. For me that player is PP.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 786 Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, City 2nd said: Play like he did, and you will be a scapegoat! Last season he was on loan at Birmingham and not deemed good enough for NCFC. No he didn’t, last season he scored the winner at Birmingham for us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 545 Posted November 29, 2023 Gerry Howshall was worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thumbbass 364 Posted November 29, 2023 Hernandez is currently occupying a Sunak level of competency with the OP forgetting that Liz Truss was once in the position. Recency bias. Not so long ago we had Drmic playing in the PL for us. However, like the rest of the side, he was utter tripe last night, and that's coming from someone who actually thinks he has a place in the squad. Wagner has to go, setting the team up as he does with is only damaging the confidence and legacy of generally decent but not outstanding players like Onel and McClean who may not be around or in the side for another shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 439 Posted November 29, 2023 3 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: There was more guile and creativity from Sainz in 15 mins last night than Hernandez in his last 2 games. All Onel seems to do these days is misplace passes and foul people, Of course a few times he will enthusiastically dribble the ball 15 yards before misplacing a pass or fouling somebody. Useless player. ...and looking at him last night,by the close ups on tv, he realises he's cr#p!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted November 29, 2023 14 hours ago, Coneys Knee said: No he’s not but he is the new scapegoat He's not a scapegoat, he's just an awful player. Offers absolutely nothing, hasn't done since our first promotion season under Farke. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,183 Posted November 29, 2023 15 hours ago, mastoola said: Probably the best defender for Watford tonight. How this guy plays for us beggars belief. Oh get a fuking grip. Some fans Jesus wept 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,424 Posted November 29, 2023 14 hours ago, mastoola said: Probably the best defender for Watford tonight. How this guy plays for us beggars belief. Clickbait comment worshipper You and I both know the answer and it’s not what you posed in the topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,882 Posted November 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, Move Klose said: He's not a scapegoat, he's just an awful player. Offers absolutely nothing, hasn't done since our first promotion season under Farke. As much as I don't rate Hernandez it's a (little) bit sad he has been singled out but it is what it is. Trouble is as long as he keeps getting selected and as long as performances and results are utterly dire more and more players will be targeted. We're already seeing it with Duffy, Long and Stacey can't be far behind. It's a horrible atmosphere for the players which isn't going to get better, especially if Wagner remains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percy varco 247 Posted November 29, 2023 No. Not at all. He is the new Cantwell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 413 Posted November 29, 2023 Charlie Billington holds that accolade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy2600 374 Posted November 29, 2023 Is Hernandez the worst player ever to play for Norwich? Err, NO! in recent memory Naismith and van Wolfswinkle rate way above (?) Argos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damn that Ralph Coates! 70 Posted November 29, 2023 how bad must Sainz be in training? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,614 Posted November 29, 2023 16 hours ago, mastoola said: Probably the best defender for Watford tonight. How this guy plays for us beggars belief. ****ing nora. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 7,254 Posted November 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: ****ing nora. Sounds like someone Wayne Rooney would. 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 3,143 Posted November 29, 2023 He's obviously not the 'worst ever player' but I absolutely agree that he's nowhere near good enough. The problem is that he's actually very good at some aspects of the game; good enough to get a new contract and a regular starting spot, but then so awful at picking a pass under pressure that he negates everything positive. If he was genuinely rubbish then it would be far better for the club because he could simply be dropped and forgotten. People love to throw around the 'scapegoat' thing but it's actually true that carrying certain players in certain positions is undermining the whole team. With Rowe in for Hernandez, Sara behind Sargent and McLean at 8 along side a decent 6, I think we'd have a decent enough team ( kamikaze pressing aside). With Hernandez in the team many of our attacking transitions simply break down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 738 Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, damn that Ralph Coates! said: how bad must Sainz be in training? Would you really trust Wagner's judgement at this point though? He clearly has a penchant for experience so it doesn't shock me we keep rolling out the same players who keep underperforming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy G 15 Posted November 29, 2023 Not by a long shot, he is one of the few forward thinking players we have, he is always trying to run the ball forward rather than playing back to goal. granted his end product is a bit lacking, but the work rate and passion is there. I found he was most effective when he was brought on for the last 20mins of a game, when he would just run at the defence;Â definately not the answer for a 90min player! Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 413 Posted November 29, 2023 Some managers make players worse than they are. But Hernandez does have clear limitations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 768 Posted November 29, 2023 18 hours ago, Coneys Knee said: No he’s not but he is the new scapegoat I dont agree he's the new scapegoat, albeit it might seem that way amongst the forum. He just simply isnt good enough and is just a more well liked version of Placheta in my eyes. Arguably PP looks better than Onel with his end product now, which at least he seems to be improving. Onel on the other hand... I just want Sainz starting asap (once fit). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites