Terminally Yellow 2,477 Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ted Mackie Dee said: People complain when we get called “little old Norwich” but this just goes to show why. Picking off the freebies of other teams and hoping that a gem will come through from the youngsters. Luckily a real jewel has but why couldn’t we have just splashed out on Tom Cannon who could in the end turn out to be a bargain. A few days ago we were linked to several really good players but we should’ve known, the clubs purse must be empty so we go for more other clubs fringe players. Time will tell if we should’ve splashed out but I just feel we haven’t got the quality in depth. I really hope I’m proved wrong, fingers crossed 🤞 If you want a club that splashes out go support Chelsea. We won't, shouldn't and don't need to splash out on a player we need to cover an injury. Edited September 1, 2023 by Terminally Yellow 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 641 Posted September 1, 2023 The sad thing is that a half decent loan spell in the championship means the fee is 7 million. The market has massively changed in the last few years alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,722 Posted September 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: So once again we fail to pay good enough money and resort to panic buying from the bottom of the bucket on deadline day rather than our target as he joins a rival Shades of Ajer all over again The American takeover can't come soon enough You have to individually be the thickest person on this forum and it's a f*cking competitive scene you're battling in. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,640 Posted September 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, horsefly said: Truth is, you don't know that. Truth is, many posters on this site not so long ago claimed Sargent couldn't hit a barn door. Truth is, no one predicted Rowe would have scored 5 in 5. Truth is ... Hanley was a league one CB, yet without him, we certainly had relegation to league one form. Kenny was rubbish. Barnes is over the hill and past it... We've heard it all in the last 6months. And as someone else predicted, people on here already slagging off the club for not going all in for a player they know next to nothing about... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted September 1, 2023 Pop in a cheeky bid for Ryan Hardie at Argyle. Has three goals already this season at this level. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,640 Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Ulfotto said: The sad thing is that a half decent loan spell in the championship means the fee is 7 million. The market has massively changed in the last few years alone. I kept saying this about Sargent for the last two years. If you wanted a top championship striker you are looking at £10-£20mil these days. Not just in recent times either. Rhodes, Asombalonga and Afobe all moved for £10m+ seasons before Armstrong's £15-20m move to Southampton. £7m is about a million less than we paid for Sargent, who had been a regular in the Bundesliga. Cannon could well be the real deal, but he's still proving himself. Leicester have the money and could well be losing strikers too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,302 Posted September 1, 2023 Come January and if JoJo Rowe is still on fire.....I'm pretty confident NCFC will with a defensive stance and sheer determination will bat away all affluent and curious interested parties.... regardless on whatever silly amounts are offered for the skilled services of young Master Rowe....although....money talks..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, chicken said: £7m is about a million less than we paid for Sargent, who had been a regular in the Bundesliga. Cannon could well be the real deal, but he's still proving himself. That's why i thought Cannon was cheap at 7 million 8 goals in 20 games is pretty sharp going in this league That's in his first season in a first team , of course like any player does not mean he can do it again but you would have thought if that's the start of his career it's pretty good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,679 Posted September 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, chicken said: Wildschutt was never £7m, that was confirmed ages ago. I suspect that may have been a figure after a ton of add ons etc but it was said by Alex Neil that it wasn't even close to being that much. Equally, Hugill was £2.5m up front wasn't he? A further £2.5m on promotion or some similar split. Indeed - though neither of those things stop the incorrect figures being quoted. The truth of transfers and football finances in general is always very hazy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,640 Posted September 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ted Mackie Dee said: People complain when we get called “little old Norwich” There are only two types of people who use "little old Norwich", both are largely ignorant, one is only ever looking to bash the club, or find a stick to beat it with. The other tends to suggest people use it as an endeering term - which it isn't. People don't complain. They roll their eyes and say 'here we go again'. It's like a self applied warning label. We know what comes next is 95% likely to be BS. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,778 Posted September 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, horsefly said: Truth is, you don't know that. Truth is, many posters on this site not so long ago claimed Sargent couldn't hit a barn door. Truth is, no one predicted Rowe would have scored 5 in 5. Truth is ... Truth it that it was indeed not a truth but a personal opinion gathered from seeing his scoring record that may or may not be proved either truth or correct but you are right that I should have labeled it as an opinion and not a fact 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 641 Posted September 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, chicken said: I kept saying this about Sargent for the last two years. If you wanted a top championship striker you are looking at £10-£20mil these days. Not just in recent times either. Rhodes, Asombalonga and Afobe all moved for £10m+ seasons before Armstrong's £15-20m move to Southampton. £7m is about a million less than we paid for Sargent, who had been a regular in the Bundesliga. Cannon could well be the real deal, but he's still proving himself. Leicester have the money and could well be losing strikers too. Exactly puts into perspective the fee we paid for Dowell in particular as it is the same club. Sargent is a 20 goal season away from being a 25 million pound player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,640 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: That's why i thought Cannon was cheap at 7 million 8 goals in 20 games is pretty sharp going in this league That's in his first season in a first team , of course like any player does not mean he can do it again but you would have thought if that's the start of his career it's pretty good Lots of ifs and buts in there though. There have been players that have moved like this and never realised the potential. As others state, we are not looking for a permanent Sargent replacement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, chicken said: There are only two types of people who use "little old Norwich", both are largely ignorant, one is only ever looking to bash the club, or find a stick to beat it with. The other tends to suggest people use it as an endeering term - which it isn't. People don't complain. They roll their eyes and say 'here we go again'. It's like a self applied warning label. We know what comes next is 95% likely to be BS. Yep! It's a total bore. Take a look at other Championship fan sites and they invariably talk of City as one of the "big" clubs in the league. The vast majority of the clubs in the EFL would love to be in the situation that "little old Norwich" finds itself. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 558 Posted September 1, 2023 It has all gone quiet for a while ... Waiting for dominoes to fall??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,845 Posted September 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Truth it that it was indeed not a truth but a personal opinion gathered from seeing his scoring record that may or may not be proved either truth or correct but you are right that I should have labeled it as an opinion and not a fact 😉 Idah's scoring record in a Norwich shirt is one goal every 250 minutes. In the Championship, it's one in 224. That's really not bad for a 22-year-old who has never had a proper run of games. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted September 1, 2023 Leicester with the bigger wages and higher profile is an easy financial pick, for career development I'm less certain. If that's his direction then we haven't missed out On to the next target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,797 Posted September 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: It has all gone quiet for a while ... Waiting for dominoes to fall??? Do we even know the extent of Sargent's injury yet? It does seem odd that the injury happened on Saturday, and Wagner said that they could still be waiting for a specislist's diagnosis on Friday morning. Nearly a week already passed if surgery is required 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted September 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: That's why i thought Cannon was cheap at 7 million Things are getting very silly now! A guy we had never heard, were never interested in for more than a loan/stop gap is now the second coming. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,679 Posted September 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: It has all gone quiet for a while ... Waiting for dominoes to fall??? I liked Wagner’s quote earlier on preseason, something like ‘when one stone falls, they all fall’…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 558 Posted September 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Do we even know the extent of Sargent's injury yet? It does seem odd that the injury happened on Saturday, and Wagner said that they could still be waiting for a specislist's diagnosis on Friday morning. Nearly a week already passed if surgery is required Apparently, we'll hear after the match tomorrow. Hopefully it has been a ruse to ward off late bids and he'll be fit and available next weekend! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,274 Posted September 1, 2023 Trouble is now that our parachute payments have gone we're really going to struggle to compete with clubs coming down from the EPL both from a transfer fee and wages perspective. I think we were all expecting Omo to leave for a cool few millions, instead he's getting splinters on the bench and now dropped from the Ireland squad as well. I can't see us being top 6 without a 20 goal a season striker. That's not saying Adam isn't one but he needs a hell of a breakthrough season. It will be hugely frustrating as well if Cardiff land Moore when they are supposed to be under a transfer embargo until January. Let's hope for a bit of positive news between now and 11pm either from incomings or Josh's specialist! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
If wed kept Howie.. 208 Posted September 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Do we even know the extent of Sargent's injury yet? It does seem odd that the injury happened on Saturday, and Wagner said that they could still be waiting for a specislist's diagnosis on Friday morning. Nearly a week already passed if surgery is required i'm no surgeon.. but i think its sometimes because they have to wait for swelling/inflammation to ease before making a decision.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calle 16 Posted September 1, 2023 Rather go with what we´ve got, than get some average guy like Lowe. New players need to be considered upgrads to the ones we got. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,845 Posted September 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: I can't see us being top 6 without a 20 goal a season striker. Last season, three teams managed it, including both if the top two. In both 2020/21 and 2021/22, four teams managed to get in the top six without a 20-goal striker. It helps, but it's not essential. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 777 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, If wed kept Howie.. said: i'm no surgeon.. but i think its sometimes because they have to wait for swelling/inflammation to ease before making a decision.. Yes - often the case so no surprise there has been a delay. Posters still trying to read ulterior motives into this really need to take their conspiracy glasses off!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 641 Posted September 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, If wed kept Howie.. said: i'm no surgeon.. but i think its sometimes because they have to wait for swelling/inflammation to ease before making a decision.. It won’t come out today as it obviously affects our bargaining position. In my opinion our transfer activity will dictate how bad the injury is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted September 1, 2023 Remember that season when we brought in a striker with a promising reputation but he completely failed to impress? I think his name was Harry Kane, whatever happened to him? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,985 Posted September 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, horsefly said: Remember that season when we brought in a striker with a promising reputation but he completely failed to impress? I think his name was Harry Kane, whatever happened to him? I think his penalty miss in the World Cup just landed at his new club. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,797 Posted September 1, 2023 I still wouldnt be so sure we'd continue with the 2 striker situation if Sargent was out, more pushing someone else into no.10 We've a few options if thats the case.. Barnes/ Idah Rowe Sara/Nunez Fassnacht/Sainz McLean/Forshsw Sara/Nunez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites