Channon’s Windmill 344 Posted July 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: The club have data that shows they didn’t create enough chances last year. Hence they are looking for “wingers” . I hope somewhere amongst all the data there is a reminder note that we have never permanently replaced Alex Tettey. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,865 Posted July 6, 2023 8 million by a club like Coventry.. Blimey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wazzock 916 Posted July 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: 8 million by a club like Coventry.. Blimey That's double what 1p5wich offered Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwearyCanary 1,179 Posted July 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, First Wazzock said: That's double what 1p5wich offered I don’t know a lot about Simms but although Gyokeres was good for Cov last couple of years I have to say he lacked obvious quality in the playoffs and I think that he is possibly that limbo between top of the tree in the championship and if he doesn’t kick on with a new club a lot that he could be a basic squad option elsewhere higher up. Sporting and the Portuguese league could well be a good fit and his level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,865 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, First Wazzock said: That's double what 1p5wich offered But I thought they have "billions in the bank!" or whatever nonsense they keep going on about.. Must be quite embarrassing they've been outbid by coventry of all clubs for their big transfer target Edited July 6, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,095 Posted July 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, Channon’s Windmill said: I hope somewhere amongst all the data there is a reminder note that we have never permanently replaced Alex Tettey. i think if you make the CDM more solid , then it lets the rest of the team play as they do not defend as much as the CDM is mopping up and winning the ball back more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoogler 324 Posted July 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: 8 million by a club like Coventry.. Blimey With the money for Gyokeres coming I suspect they can afford a single, large outlay. What I have my doubts about is whether Simms is a player worth that sort of money and whether he could replace someone like Gyokeres. But that's a problem for Coventry rather than us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,898 Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said: 8 million by a club like Coventry.. Blimey They're getting £20m for Gyokeres and were taken over by a relatively wealthy new owner earlier this year, so he's probably happy to reinvest the bulk of that money in the playing squad whilst still on his honeymoon period. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,733 Posted July 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: They're getting £20m for Gyokeres and were taken over by a relatively wealthy new owner earlier this year, so he's probably happy to reinvest the bulk of that money in the playing squad whilst still on his honeymoon period. Quite so - they are set to lose their star player for £20m and are using part of the money to buy someone - is there something I’m missing? I imagine we might do similar if and when we sell someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,677 Posted July 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Quite so - they are set to lose their star player for £20m and are using part of the money to buy someone - is there something I’m missing? I imagine we might do similar if and when we sell someone. Exactly. And the perspective here is that £8-10m is pretty typical for higher end operating players for the championship. Pritchard cost us similar I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Holt 522 Posted July 7, 2023 That’s given the bin dippers a wake up call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,865 Posted July 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Captain Holt said: That’s given the bin dippers a wake up call. Given most of their fans seem to think they are set to walk this upcoming season with ease.. Sure back in League one they might have been a big fish in a small pond but now they're just another goldfish in the aquarium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted July 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: They're getting £20m for Gyokeres and were taken over by a relatively wealthy new owner earlier this year, so he's probably happy to reinvest the bulk of that money in the playing squad whilst still on his honeymoon period. Under £4m up front with lots of add ons being reported around here today. Good business for Coventry and gazumped Ipswich too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,225 Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Given most of their fans seem to think they are set to walk this upcoming season with ease.. Sure back in League one they might have been a big fish in a small pond but now they're just another goldfish in the aquarium They don't see it that way, as ever. From TWTD Q. 'Why should he prefer Coventry over Ipswich?" Ans: "Because Ipswich amongst a few others are still regarded as a big club with a decent history. Who have the only world cup winning manager. Has almost 27 thousand crowds on average and sold fifty thousand shirts. Ambitious owners and a highly regarded manager maybe that's why ?" It's relentless. What do they feed them on in deepest, darkest Suffolk? ITFC is no bigger a club than Coventry, whatever that means. Us, them and Cov. are all medium-sized clubs with the latter probably having the edge. The season ahead is going to be a beauty with so many issues apart from Carrow Road matters to grab our interest. Edited July 7, 2023 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said: They don't see it that way, as ever. From TWTD Q. 'Why should he prefer Coventry over Ipswich?" Ans: "Because Ipswich amongst a few others are still regarded as a big club with a decent history. Who have the only world cup winning manager. Has almost 27 thousand crowds on average and sold fifty thousand shirts. Ambitious owners and a highly regarded manager maybe that's why ?" It's relentless. What do they feed them on in deepest, darkest Suffolk? ITFC is no bigger a club than Coventry, whatever that means. Us, them and Cov. are all medium-sized clubs with the latter probably having the edge. Norwich have comfortably been the bigger team out the trio in the last two decades. Right now Coventry and Ipswich are on the up in several ways. Who will have the better season of the 3? I wouldn’t want to call it myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,225 Posted July 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Norwich have comfortably been the bigger team out the trio in the last two decades. Right now Coventry and Ipswich are on the up in several ways. Who will have the better season of the 3? I wouldn’t want to call it myself. Yes. There are probably more question marks about City than the other two. Quite a few imponderables what with uncertainties surrounding the American involvement, Webber's future and even the manager's true worth. Throw in possible sales and the money question and even whether such players as Tzolis and Idah will finally blossom and nothing at all can be forecast. We are far less settled as a club than we have been for quite some time. Will Delia roll her lucky dice once again? I remain positive, but it can be a difficult stance at times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,318 Posted July 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Norwich have comfortably been the bigger team out the trio in the last two decades. Right now Coventry and Ipswich are on the up in several ways. Who will have the better season of the 3? I wouldn’t want to call it myself. Indeed! However, I can't think of any of the Town players who would get into the City first eleven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,225 Posted July 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Norwich have comfortably been the bigger team out the trio in the last two decades. Right now Coventry and Ipswich are on the up in several ways. Who will have the better season of the 3? I wouldn’t want to call it myself. When talking about Ipswich you don't mention anything about the last twenty years, in fact you hardly mention anything that has happened since 1981. Surely you know that? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said: When talking about Ipswich you don't mention anything about the last twenty years, in fact you hardly mention anything that has happened since 1981. Surely you know that? 81 plays our 85! The two matches against them this coming season will and should be fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 558 Posted July 7, 2023 I imagine Ipswich will have a decent season after doing well last year. Hopefully just not too well and also lose both games against us. I doubt anything will happen on Max A until his return from international duty this weekend. It will be interesting to see what happens with Andy and whether any interest has materialised at this stage, given the initial interest in him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,705 Posted July 7, 2023 I think Palace were linked with Omo, so interest may firm up if Guehi gets a move this summer, which isn't unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted July 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Norwich have comfortably been the bigger team out the trio in the last two decades. Nothing screams "little ol' Norwich" more than an obsession about who is the bigger club. We have been more successful than the other two over twenty years, yes, but realistically there are no significant differences in "size" between the clubs. The financial fundamentals are pretty similar, as goes for another dozen clubs or so. In selling their most valuable player Cov were able to offer the lad better terms and a place in a top end Champs team. The idea that he might make that choice based on the basis of which club was notionally the biggest is fanciful. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,325 Posted July 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, jaberry2 said: I imagine Ipswich will have a decent season after doing well last year. Hopefully just not too well and also lose both games against us. There will be 3 worse teams than them. I can't see beyond the 3 relegated teams from the EPL competing the autos. As from the rest, who knows. Sunderland showed that the gap from top League One to the Championship isn't that great and all 3 coming up this season play better football than they do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,491 Posted July 7, 2023 Sellable Assets - Aarons, Omobamidele, Gunn then scraping the barrel Sargarent, Sara. Looks like we are running out of players we can sell. Gibbs/Rowe/Springett. Big season for the Coach+SD and Academy to get new talent game time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 905 Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: Norwich have comfortably been the bigger team out the trio in the last two decades. Right now Coventry and Ipswich are on the up in several ways. Who will have the better season of the 3? I wouldn’t want to call it myself. Have you actually measured the players ? As to club size, it doesn't always mean much. Compare the size of Derby with Brentford, or Weds with B'mouth City have been far more successful than the binners over the past 40 years, as the trophies won testify to. Probably bigger attendances on average. Time spent in the PL. I am not sure how this US pension fund expects to get a return on their investment. Clubs spending less than their income (generating a profit) tend not to stay in the PL too long. So where is the return coming from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, BigFish said: Nothing screams "little ol' Norwich" more than an obsession about who is the bigger club. We have been more successful than the other two over twenty years, yes, but realistically there are no significant differences in "size" between the clubs. The financial fundamentals are pretty similar, as goes for another dozen clubs or so. In selling their most valuable player Cov were able to offer the lad better terms and a place in a top end Champs team. The idea that he might make that choice based on the basis of which club was notionally the biggest is fanciful. Not obsessed in the slightest but Norwich have been the better/biggest club in that period. For potential at this moment in time then probably not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RobJames said: Have you actually measured the players ? As to club size, it doesn't always mean much. Compare the size of Derby with Brentford, or Weds with B'mouth City have been far more successful than the binners over the past 40 years, as the trophies won testify to. Probably bigger attendances on average. Time spent in the PL. I am not sure how this US pension fund expects to get a return on their investment. Clubs spending less than their income (generating a profit) tend not to stay in the PL too long. So where is the return coming from? Maximise potential growth, I know the new owner has mentioned expanding corporate income. Maybe with his forward thinking and professional business acumen the Subbuteo stand will be knocked down and one fit for modern times replaces it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBaldOne66 722 Posted July 7, 2023 19 hours ago, chicken said: Rose, Sainz and Hernandez right now. Another wouldn't go amiss as Springett will likely be loaned again and Placheta isn't looking likely to be with us either. Who is this Rose you keep talking about? Or do you mean Rowe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,677 Posted July 7, 2023 6 hours ago, TheBaldOne66 said: Who is this Rose you keep talking about? Or do you mean Rowe? One typo and it's "keep talking about" even though others understood who I meant... strange snipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,118 Posted July 7, 2023 Gyökeres to Sporting €24m to be confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites