Pyro Pete 1,918 Posted January 3, 2023 Looks like he's just had surgery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 260 Posted January 3, 2023 Send him back 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,024 Posted January 3, 2023 Great another sick note Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,425 Posted January 3, 2023 Nice that some people took the time to read his tweet. #benice 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,856 Posted January 3, 2023 Obviously it's not his fault he's injured, but if what he's saying is true, why the hell didn't they book this surgery in for the day after the Middlesbrough game, when we had a four-week break coming up? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 789 Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Wings of a Sparrow said: Nice that some people took the time to read his tweet. #benice Feel for him and any player who struggles to do their job due to persistent injuries. The frustrating thing is that a fit and in firm Hayden is exactly end day we need and have needed for a while. Hope the surgery does the trick. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dame to Blame 96 Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Obviously it's not his fault he's injured, but if what he's saying is true, why the hell didn't they book this surgery in for the day after the Middlesbrough game, when we had a four-week break coming up? Thats an excelllent point, yet again another c@ck up from the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,433 Posted January 3, 2023 Yeah, it's time to give up on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 783 Posted January 3, 2023 Really desperate time for the player with the knee injury clearly never healing up 100% to withstand the rigours of professional football. Would explain the recent fall off in his performances after an outstanding display at Rotherham. Surprised if he plays much more this season to be honest as we / he HAS to get this right for his own future. We should all wish him a thorough and speedy recovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted January 3, 2023 Feel for him injuries are awful when the put a player out for so long Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,406 Posted January 3, 2023 It’s desperately sad for him- but ultimately he isn’t our player. Time to terminate the loan and get in someone who can help us now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,024 Posted January 3, 2023 Of course I feel bad for him but it's the fact we have signed 2 crocked holding mids in a row now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,406 Posted January 3, 2023 We have signed two crocks as a gamble because we can’t afford a fit one who is at the right level. That is the sad truth 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 519 Posted January 3, 2023 Desperate news for a top professional, let hope he come through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,276 Posted January 3, 2023 We have our own Adam Idah coming from back from serious injury so be nice to him as well. I'm all for cutting a bit of slack to injured players but let's do it to one of our own as well. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted January 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: We have signed two crocks as a gamble because we can’t afford a fit one who is at the right level. That is the sad truth Time to sign a couple of young CDMs not yet at the level and develop them properly! Give them opportunity …. Stoppers will always do a job for you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,176 Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Obviously it's not his fault he's injured, but if what he's saying is true, why the hell didn't they book this surgery in for the day after the Middlesbrough game, when we had a four-week break coming up? Unless he and his medical team are stupid, it’s probably because they thought there was a good chance it wouldn’t be necessary. Turns out they were wrong, but an infallible ability to see into the future isn’t a prerequisite to work for the club despite what some posters would like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,856 Posted January 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Unless he and his medical team are stupid, it’s probably because they thought there was a good chance it wouldn’t be necessary. Turns out they were wrong, but an infallible ability to see into the future isn’t a prerequisite to work for the club despite what some posters would like. I'm not a medical expert, but if he's having to get his knee drained every three days and is unable to train more than twice a week to prevent his knee swelling up, it hints that surgery will be inevitable sooner rather later. I get that maybe they hoped four weeks of rest would resolve it, but presumably that was more hope than expectation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,315 Posted January 3, 2023 The one thing we need to learn from Jarvis & Byram that we shouldn’t risk turning this into a permanent signing, at 27 he’s not going to get over a long term injury like this quickly. We really need to shift him back to Newcastle and get two loans sorted in January! Sad for Hayden decent enough player but not our problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,666 Posted January 3, 2023 I feel for him but this was exactly why people were questioning his signing at the time and as the season went on. It isn't his fault he's injured. It is our fault we signed a player recovering from a serious knee injury who hadn't kicked a ball in 6 months for probably the biggest weak point in our squad. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unhinged Canary 375 Posted January 3, 2023 The visual personification of Dean Smiths tenure at the club. A massive waste of time and money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastoola 185 Posted January 3, 2023 Go buy a washing machine from a shop. when it doesn't work when you plug it in they come out and a fix it. After a while when it still keeps breaking down they need to give you your money back!!!!! Its consumer law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted January 3, 2023 Two seasons in a row that Webber has signed an injured DM as our sole DM. Time to go Webber. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,092 Posted January 3, 2023 We seem to loan quite a few crocks. And the loans who do play are just a crock of sh it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Obviously it's not his fault he's injured, but if what he's saying is true, why the hell didn't they book this surgery in for the day after the Middlesbrough game, when we had a four-week break coming up? I know that the club, or Newcastle, will be paying the creme de la creme of private surgeons for operations like this, but that doesn't mean there are no waiting lists at all and you can just pick any time and day for surgery, I'm assuming they don't sit around waiting for calls today to see if they have work next Tuesday. More people than ever are using their savings to go private due to NHS waiting lists, so I'd assume that they are all pretty damn busy right now. Just had a little google and Spire (a popular private provider) are currently quoting a waiting time of 3-4 weeks for knee surgery https://www.spirehealthcare.com/spire-harpenden-hospital/patient-information/private-procedure-waiting-times/ Also, he isn't our player, would it even be us booking this in? Wouldn't it be Newcastle? We can't go messing around with the knees of other clubs players can we? Edited January 3, 2023 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,092 Posted January 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I'm not a medical expert, but if he's having to get his knee drained every three days and is unable to train more than twice a week to prevent his knee swelling up, it hints that surgery will be inevitable sooner rather later. I get that maybe they hoped four weeks of rest would resolve it, but presumably that was more hope than expectation. As a medical expert I would tend to agree 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,856 Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said: I know that the club, or Newcastle, will be paying the creme de la creme of private surgeons for operations like this, but that doesn't mean there are no waiting lists at all and you can just pick any time and day for surgery, I'm assuming they don't sit around waiting for calls today to see if they have work next Tuesday. More people than ever are using their savings to go private due to NHS waiting lists, so I'd assume that they are all pretty damn busy right now. Spire (a popular private provider) are currently quoting a waiting time of 3-4 weeks for knee surgery https://www.spirehealthcare.com/spire-harpenden-hospital/patient-information/private-procedure-waiting-times/ A lot of top clubs, both in England and abroad, use top surgeons from all over Europe, or even the world, to get the job done. They're not just limited to their own country, so I'm sure there would've been an elite clinic somewhere available had Norwich and/or Newcastle wanted to get it done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: A lot of top clubs, both in England and abroad, use top surgeons from all over Europe, or even the world, to get the job done. They're not just limited to their own country, so I'm sure there would've been an elite clinic somewhere available had Norwich and/or Newcastle wanted to get it done. I edited my post to add this bit: "Also, he isn't our player, would it even be us booking this in? Wouldn't it be Newcastle? We can't go messing around with the knees of other clubs players can we?" This is another drawback to borrowing other teams players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 236 Posted January 3, 2023 Jarvis , byram this fella there is a pattern developing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites