Smith is limiting Mumba

[pete 371]

Smith has sent Mumba to Peterboro on the understanding Mumba is strictly a RB.  Limited due to form of Aarons and the potential of fit again Byram.  But judging Mumba on the only evidence seen the cameo in the Championship game when he came on as sub and changed the game.  As he and Martin came on it may have been against Blackburn at 0-1 and Mumba was integral at our 2 goals to win the game.  Mumba operated on the left and for a brief time caused all sorts of problems with his trickery.  This suggests he is not just a RB but has attributes we could use, Smith needs to be more forward thinking.

 

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

37 minutes ago, pete said:

Smith has sent Mumba to Peterboro on the understanding Mumba is strictly a RB.  Limited due to form of Aarons and the potential of fit again Byram.  But judging Mumba on the only evidence seen the cameo in the Championship game when he came on as sub and changed the game.  As he and Martin came on it may have been against Blackburn at 0-1 and Mumba was integral at our 2 goals to win the game.  Mumba operated on the left and for a brief time caused all sorts of problems with his trickery.  This suggests he is not just a RB but has attributes we could use, Smith needs to be more forward thinking.

 

Good grief........... Mumba and Martin came on in the home game against Swansea with the score at 0-0. Mumba was integral in our 1 goal to win the game. So apart from getting almost every detail wrong...................................................

(And just out of interest how do you know what the 'understanding' was between us and Peterborough when we sent him there on loan). 

[wcorkcanary 4,784]

Dunno about which game and when and  what score,  but what I do see is a player who could be a player in the mould of Bukayo  Saka. I agree that he could play further up the park more, he will cause defenders  problems.  I am unsure of his defensive  abilities. 

[Chelm Canary 404]

After his performance in the Swansea game I really thought he would be given a run in the first team and kick on but neither Farke or Smith have given him the chance I think he deserved. 

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

21 minutes ago, Chelm Canary said:

After his performance in the Swansea game I really thought he would be given a run in the first team and kick on but neither Farke or Smith have given him the chance I think he deserved. 

I believe he got injured shortly after the Swansea game which put him out of action a while. Might be wrong about that. His options are limited here as Max seldom gets injured and we have 2 may be 3 LBs ahead of him.

[For the future 84]

Another bad move by the club as he should have been given more time 

[Yellow Wal 315]

He will benefit from the move.

We have been giving time time to Idah and now everyone seems to be calling for him to go out on loan.

You can't have it both ways.

Mumba still has a lot to learn. He will learn a lot more by playing competitive matches than he will in training or by sitting on the bench.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Yellow Wal

[Helsinki canary 302]

2 hours ago, pete said:

Smith has sent Mumba to Peterboro on the understanding Mumba is strictly a RB.  Limited due to form of Aarons and the potential of fit again Byram.  But judging Mumba on the only evidence seen the cameo in the Championship game when he came on as sub and changed the game.  As he and Martin came on it may have been against Blackburn at 0-1 and Mumba was integral at our 2 goals to win the game.  Mumba operated on the left and for a brief time caused all sorts of problems with his trickery.  This suggests he is not just a RB but has attributes we could use, Smith needs to be more forward thinking.

 

Giving him weekly competitive game time is a sensible move to harden him up for next season in the Championship when max and williams and possible gianoulis will be gone. 

[AJ 1,359]

3 hours ago, Chelm Canary said:

After his performance in the Swansea game I really thought he would be given a run in the first team and kick on but neither Farke or Smith have given him the chance I think he deserved. 

Whilst I agree on merit, he is far from the level that Max consistently achieves, giving Bali game time is definitely the right thing to aid his development at this stage of his career. Idah should be out on loan too really

Edited January 7, 2022 by AJ

[chicken 3,086]

It's actually quite simple at the moment. With Mumba, we had four right backs at the club.

Aarons, Byram and Williams are the other three.

Interestingly, all three can also do a job at left back, so as far as this season goes, we should be covered. Should. 

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

Sending Mumba on loan is a perfectly reasonable move. End of.

[pete 371]

Muimba scores today, which is one more than any one Norwich player in lasdt 5 games.  Should have been given a go. End of.

Club ignoring potential. 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,798]

5 minutes ago, pete said:

Muimba scores today, which is one more than any one Norwich player in lasdt 5 games.  Should have been given a go. End of.

Club ignoring potential. 

 

16 hours ago, Branston Pickle said:

Sending Mumba on loan is a perfectly reasonable move. End of.

These two things just don't go together

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

It’s a ridiculous notion that sending a young player out on loan to a decent level is somehow ‘restricting’ him.  The simple fact is he’s not going to be playing PL games ahead of Aarons or Byram, or Williams even, but we may well want him to be ready to roll next season so getting him experience is sound logic.  It’s bemusing that some cannot see this, but then common or business sense isn’t some people’s strong point.

Edited January 8, 2022 by Branston Pickle

[TheGunnShow 7,377]

Should be covered at full-back on both sides next season with McCallum to come back on the left. I do agree with posters who think right-back is not going to be his final position though. That said, his trickery could be useful playing as a very attacking right-back next season if Aarons does indeed go.

Mumba produced a lovely goal today coming off the bench, but let's not anoint him the saviour off one nice goal. He'll need regular game time as Aarons has the spot close to nailed, and Byram's a class act if we get him match fit.

I'm guessing here, but I think it's possible Mumba was sent over not just as Peterborough like to play good football, but was told "go and find your position".

[Capt. Pants 5,008]

As mentioned on another thread what's limiting Mumba is his height, moreover his lack of it.

5ft 6 doesn't get you into many defences (not those with a back four anyway).

Not saying he couldn't make it further up the pitch mind, but I think whether he's successful with us or not depends on what Division we're in. He's not what we need right now, but next season is another matter.

[priceyrice 133]

Sensible decision to send him out on loan. I suspect Aarons will be gone in the summer and as it looks likely we will be in the championship next season it gives him some experience to hopefully then fill the Aarons hole in the team. 

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

One thing we don't know is what the player wanted. Did he look for a move with maybe two experienced players ahead of him and Sorenson the Danish Army knife? At 20 he should be expecting a full time spot.

[Indy 3,471]

Definitely loan for both McCullum and Mumba will make them better players, the more time the get the better for next year. Certainly shouldn’t restrict Mumba to right back, he’s got the making of a good wide midfielder/ winger.

[Terminally Yellow 2,614]

3 hours ago, pete said:

Muimba scores today, which is one more than any one Norwich player in lasdt 5 games.  Should have been given a go. End of.

Club ignoring potential. 

Christ on a bike. He scores one goal for Peterborough in the championship and you're on here acting like we let go prime Messi. 

He's a young man, the loan will do him good, one impressive goal in the champ doesn't mean he has the ability to cut it in this league at this stage, does it?

Let's get a grip shall we? 

[Gordon Bennett 914]

He scored against Bristol Rovers.......

[Unhinged Canary 375]

Why aren't we Peterborough?

[dylanisabaddog 6,143]

On 07/01/2022 at 17:51, wcorkcanary said:

Dunno about which game and when and  what score,  but what I do see is a player who could be a player in the mould of Bukayo  Saka. I agree that he could play further up the park more, he will cause defenders  problems.  I am unsure of his defensive  abilities. 

The simple fact is that he's 5ft 6 and there isn't a club in the Premier League who would risk playing him at full back. Max is around 5ft 8 (despite claims to the contrary) and is probably the shortest defender in the Premier League. It is possible that we could play him as a wing back with 3 big central defenders but I can't remember the last time we had 3 centre halves fit at the same time! 

It's a shame because he's clearly a talented lad but football has gone that way. EPL clubs can afford to pick and choose and it's a game of small margins. Why risk your full back being consistently beaten in the air when you can just go out and buy a 6ft one? 

 

[Newtopia 573]

15 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

The simple fact is that he's 5ft 6 and there isn't a club in the Premier League who would risk playing him at full back. Max is around 5ft 8 (despite claims to the contrary) and is probably the shortest defender in the Premier League. It is possible that we could play him as a wing back with 3 big central defenders but I can't remember the last time we had 3 centre halves fit at the same time! 

It's a shame because he's clearly a talented lad but football has gone that way. EPL clubs can afford to pick and choose and it's a game of small margins. Why risk your full back being consistently beaten in the air when you can just go out and buy a 6ft one? 

 

Lamptey?

[AJ 1,359]

38 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

The simple fact is that he's 5ft 6 and there isn't a club in the Premier League who would risk playing him at full back. Max is around 5ft 8 (despite claims to the contrary) and is probably the shortest defender in the Premier League. It is possible that we could play him as a wing back with 3 big central defenders but I can't remember the last time we had 3 centre halves fit at the same time! 

It's a shame because he's clearly a talented lad but football has gone that way. EPL clubs can afford to pick and choose and it's a game of small margins. Why risk your full back being consistently beaten in the air when you can just go out and buy a 6ft one? 

 

Trippier is also 5ft 8. Ashley Cole, arguably one of Englands best ever left backs, was only a fraction taller than that as well. Height has nothing to do with being a fullback, thats what your centre backs are for!

[Coneys Knee 1,049]

Maybe, because the football is so carp at the Carra and we literally have nothing to be excited about right now, we could flood Peterborough Utd’s forums etc with man of the match votes for mumba every week, regardless of how well he plays or even if he plays. We could lecture Posh fans about how he’s the best player to have ever played for them etc etc. criticise their club if he doesn’t play one week. Or do we need the BBC’s backing to really get things rolling? 

[dylanisabaddog 6,143]

3 hours ago, AJ said:

Height has nothing to do with being a fullback, thats what your centre backs are for!

Have you ever wondered why Norwich City continue to claim Max is 5ft 10 when he's actually 5ft 8 at the most? 

I'm afraid football has changed and modern managers/coaches just don't like short defenders.