Robornio 107 Posted September 21, 2021 I have to question what the hell we’ve been doing in training? We look so one-dimensional and then panic when we have the ball near the goal. No composure at all and no ideas on how to make space. Adam Idah has looked dreadful tonight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 443 Posted September 21, 2021 This could turn out to be a good result….….…… …….we can fully focus on getting relegated…. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanadyan Kanary 122 Posted September 21, 2021 Just can't defend... again. 1 red shirt in the box and he heads it in. Happened on Saturday as well. Four years of poor defending nothing is changing, despite all of Farke's words. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,066 Posted September 21, 2021 Anyone want a season ticket for the rest of the season? £300. I get it back next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted September 21, 2021 We aren't getting another point while Grant Hanley is in our defence. Not up to prem level at all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoolahoop14 124 Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) Was about to say I was enjoying the game but that 2nd Liverpool goal has infuriated me. It’s basic, semi-pro level stuff. Just shocking. If our defending carries on this way it’s on Farke and the coaching staff. Simply not good enough. Had enough of us conceding soft goals. Embarrassing. Edited September 21, 2021 by Hoolahoop14 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,256 Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, unique said: I blame Hanley. why commit the foul on the half-way line? FFS To stop the break and slow play down, wasn’t the wrong call for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,552 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, NWC said: That’s just too easy - either Hanley or Gibson should go with Origi 😳 Not only that, Liverpool midfielders given all the time in the world to play the winger in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 532 Posted September 21, 2021 Didn't Farke say 2 seasons ago he plays zonal marking because he didn't have the right players to play man to man. He's had 2 seasons to at least sort that. We could pick boys from an under 15 team and they'd know how to defend better than our lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,360 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Kanadyan Kanary said: Just can't defend... again. 1 red shirt in the box and he heads it in. Happened on Saturday as well. Four years of poor defending nothing is changing, despite all of Farke's words. Absolutely this. One red shirt in the box, defenders can’t mark, don’t make it difficult, simple goal to concede. Embarrassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Tetteys Jig said: We aren't getting another point while Grant Hanley is in our defence. Not up to prem level at all Kept Kane quiet in the summer, perhaps its our zonal marking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,256 Posted September 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hoolahoop14 said: That’s absolutely shocking. Three CB’s on the pitch and not one anywhere near Origi. Absolutely no excuse for that, disgraceful defending. Yea this, why wasn’t at least one literally breathing down his neck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 244 Posted September 21, 2021 Hanley and Gibson are like bill and ben the flowerpot men , both need to be dropped, Gibson has been a total waste of money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hepphep 175 Posted September 21, 2021 Oh gosh. Some positives when on possession, but so silly defensive mistakes just keep coming. I'm ready to agree that some dramatic changes are needed there. Bit feel like Hanley is the incompatible piece there and other defenders cant read his intentions and movement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted September 21, 2021 In all serious we could try 6 at the back in the next game? Get Kabak on, he could’ve marked Origi for that header while Omobamidele marked 5 yards ahead, Hanley marked 2 yards ahead and Gibson marked 2 yards behind. Try scoring a header us then!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,085 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Samwam27 said: Didn't Farke say 2 seasons ago he plays zonal marking because he didn't have the right players to play man to man. He's had 2 seasons to at least sort that. We could pick boys from an under 15 team and they'd know how to defend better than our lot I thought that was the reason he got everyone back at corners, because he doesn't have the physicality? I hate everyone back at corners but I like at least some form of zonal marking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 443 Posted September 21, 2021 With just over 30 minutes left it gives Farke an opportunity to bring Kabak on and experiment with six at the back…. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Canary Wundaboy said: Absolutely this. One red shirt in the box, defenders can’t mark, don’t make it difficult, simple goal to concede. Embarrassing. They can, just that they are told to mark "zones" instead of, well, players. And any half decent coach is going to know how to exploit a team who deploy zonal marking, yet alone one of the best coaches in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 532 Posted September 21, 2021 Hanley is looking like our common denominator for such a poor defence. Got to be dropped for Kabak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Anyone want a season ticket for the rest of the season? £300. I get it back next season. Nah sorry Dan you’ll have to pay me more than that Edited September 21, 2021 by Hank shoots Skyler 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,066 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Helsinki canary said: Hanley and Gibson are like bill and ben the flowerpot men , both need to be dropped, Gibson has been a total waste of money He hasn't, he was a big part in getting us promoted which more than covered his fee, which I believe we were obliged to pay on going up. But the evidence suggests he's certainly not Premier League standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,899 Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) I know it's a second string. I know it's early on in the season. But f*ck me am I getting seriously worried about the fact WE CAN'T DEFEND FOR SH1T. We can't even do the basics. Close the crosser down? Nah! Challenge for the cross? F*ck that! OTBC Edited September 21, 2021 by Disco Dales Jockstrap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,256 Posted September 21, 2021 Get Pukki, Dowell and Rashica warming up, let’s at least pretend we want to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,092 Posted September 21, 2021 i have a Feeling something is Seriously wrong The Players should Be better than we have seen this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Jedi 590 Posted September 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Anyone want a season ticket for the rest of the season? £300. I get it back next season. Serious suggestion? Which part of the ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,360 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TeemuVanBasten said: They can, just that they are told to mark "zones" instead of, well, players. And any half decent coach is going to know how to exploit a team who deploy zonal marking, yet alone one of the best coaches in the world. So who was supposed to be marking the zone right in the centre with the 6ft Liverpool forward in it?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,452 Posted September 21, 2021 I am never one to slate our players, that's not what support is for me, but it is even clearer this season than in 2019-20 that Hanley is not at the races consistently enough at this level. I was concerned about Kabak too after Saturday. He looked slow and ponderous but worth the benefit of the doubt after one game. Farke needs to make a decision about Hanley, captain or not, he is costing us goals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,339 Posted September 21, 2021 This is ****ing depressing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banjoman 41 Posted September 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, unique said: I blame Hanley. why commit the foul on the half-way line? FFS I've seen many many people complain we don't do enough of this - I was actually thinking it was a sensible challenge to put in. Of all the things to criticise, this wouldn't be one for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hepphep 175 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, TeemuVanBasten said: They can, just that they are told to mark "zones" instead of, well, players. And any half decent coach is going to know how to exploit a team who deploy zonal marking, yet alone one of the best coaches in the world. To be honest, the zonal marking seems to be implemented very badly with no understanding who should attack the ball and who to keep their area. First goal sort of underlined that. It would serve us good if implemented decently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites