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Next season is going to be different from the last time we were in the prem.we have time to plan ,to up fitness levels,to work hard to finish 4th from bottom .we need to plan now.

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Please don't shoot the messenger but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of staying up. The gap gets a little bit wider every year. That's not a criticism of the club either. I love the way it's run but we will never have £100m to throw at new players 

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Consider how many chances we give away every game. 

Consider how many chances we miss every game. 

Consider that this is a pretty poor Championship. 

Farke hasn't got a clue how to avoid relegation from the Premier League, yet that's exactly what this club needs for its 'self funding' model. 

 

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1 hour ago, mr footy said:

Next season is going to be different from the last time we were in the prem.we have time to plan ,to up fitness levels,to work hard to finish 4th from bottom .we need to plan now.

I'll wait to find out if I'm still alive before I worry about this.

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26 minutes ago, Number9 said:

Consider how many chances we give away every game. 

Consider how many chances we miss every game. 

Consider that this is a pretty poor Championship. 

Farke hasn't got a clue how to avoid relegation from the Premier League, yet that's exactly what this club needs for its 'self funding' model. 

Do you think we should sack Farke then?

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32 minutes ago, Number9 said:

Consider how many chances we give away every game. 

Consider how many chances we miss every game. 

Consider that this is a pretty poor Championship. 

Farke hasn't got a clue how to avoid relegation from the Premier League, yet that's exactly what this club needs for its 'self funding' model. 

 

Hardly Farkes fault is it? We do have the amazing record of most relegations!

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2 hours ago, Number9 said:

Consider how many chances we give away every game. 

Consider how many chances we miss every game. 

Consider that this is a pretty poor Championship. 

Farke hasn't got a clue how to avoid relegation from the Premier League, yet that's exactly what this club needs for its 'self funding' model. 

 

Consider how many ridiculous negative posts you create.

Consider how few goals we are actually conceding this time round.

Consider that as a manager of a team relegated from the Premier League, Farke has seen what’s needed to stay up a lot more closely than you have, despite your fantasy tenure as England manager.

Consider that promotion *to* the Premier League is exactly what our self-funding club needs. We have achieved it once with our model, and are on track to achieve it a second time.

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23 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said:

Do you think we should sack Farke then?

 

17 minutes ago, Dr Greenthumb said:

Hardly Farkes fault is it? We do have the amazing record of most relegations!

 

17 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Consider how many ridiculous negative posts you create.

Consider how few goals we are actually conceding this time round.

Consider that as a manager of a team relegated from the Premier League, Farke has seen what’s needed to stay up a lot more closely than you have, despite your fantasy tenure as England manager.

Consider that promotion *to* the Premier League is exactly what our self-funding club needs. It has achieved it once with our model, and is on track to achieve it a second time.

It was quite obvious what was required prior to getting promoted two years ago. 

We continued to buy attacking midfielders and didn't address the problems we had defensively. 

That's not rocket science. 

We changed tactics a few times and had good results against teams like Man City, Everton etc.

Do you not wonder why we didn't adjust against other teams? Why we kept doing the same thing even though we were losing, hanging off the bottom and the players were down?

 

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8 minutes ago, Number9 said:

It was quite obvious what was required prior to getting promoted two years ago. 

We continued to buy attacking midfielders and didn't address the problems we had defensively. 

That's not rocket science. 

We changed tactics a few times and had good results against teams like Man City, Everton etc.

Do you not wonder why we didn't adjust against other teams? Why we kept doing the same thing even though we were losing, hanging off the bottom and the players were down?

 

Only in your delusional fantasy world............................ 

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1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Please don't shoot the messenger but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of staying up. The gap gets a little bit wider every year. That's not a criticism of the club either. I love the way it's run but we will never have £100m to throw at new players 

 

25 minutes ago, Number9 said:

Consider how many chances we give away every game. Consider how many chances we miss every game. Consider that this is a pretty poor Championship.  Farke hasn't got a clue how to avoid relegation from the Premier League, yet that's exactly what this club needs for its 'self funding' model.

Ok. Let's get real. It is not a foregone conclusion we would be relegated again. The squad is arguably stronger than last season already and with one or two more coming in, it will get stronger again.  So basically the same squad (with one or two additions and one or two moving on) and an improved version of farkeball that will have to develop if we want to do well in the PL. 

A lot will have been learned from last time and even last season we saw that farkeball at it's best it can beat anyone, so with that experience and knowledge we will be in a better shape to do well next time.

Saying we can't do well is just guff defeatist nonsense. As for the op, yes planning has to start and knowing Webber he will be well on the case for that already. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Please don't shoot the messenger but we haven't got a cat in hells chance of staying up. The gap gets a little bit wider every year. That's not a criticism of the club either. I love the way it's run but we will never have £100m to throw at new players 

This. Would be a major task and i wouldn't want to risk our young players not getting in the team. I would replicate our last season in the prem. Promote - Omotoye, Soto, Famewo, Omobamidele and any other gooduns i haven't mentioned. 

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There will be a lot more experience within the squad and Farke will have learned plenty from last time. It’s a great position to be in, with some well chosen additions we should be in with a reasonable chance of staying up.

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Everybody will have learned from last time and will be better equipped to stay up if we get promoted. Will be a mammoth task though as we can’t / won’t spend big money in the PL. 

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1 minute ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Everybody will have learned from last time and will be better equipped to stay up if we get promoted. Will be a mammoth task though as we can’t / won’t spend big money in the PL. 

Won’t.

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39 minutes ago, Number9 said:

 

 

It was quite obvious what was required prior to getting promoted two years ago. 

We continued to buy attacking midfielders and didn't address the problems we had defensively. 

That's not rocket science. 

We changed tactics a few times and had good results against teams like Man City, Everton etc.

Do you not wonder why we didn't adjust against other teams? Why we kept doing the same thing even though we were losing, hanging off the bottom and the players were down?

 

It was like for like changes, we never improved on what we had. Poor Farkes hands were tied and was doubly done over by the injury situation!

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This is not going to be popular, the only way to strength the squad is to sell the players we have developed for a profit and invest that profit in recruiting players with even more potential who end up being better player.  That is much easier to say, than to do.  I watched the interview Michael Bailey did with Kieran Scott, it was interesting, he has separate targets depending on budget, right up to the very best players around.   I guess timing is the key, if you have a full pre season, that is the time to bring new players in, and to sell players.  I am worried if a decent offer comes in for Emi, his head is likely to be turned.

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We aren't there yet! We need to get through this transfer window 'unscathed'.

The good news is I'm almost paid up for next season whatever league we are in.

External investment required otherwise we will come straight back down. 

Just as well we haven't got anything else to worry about 😷

 

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We arent even promoted yet and the same names are trying to put down the club for getting relegated in 18 months time for a division we arent even in.

You couldn't make it up...

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5 hours ago, mr footy said:

Next season is going to be different from the last time we were in the prem.we have time to plan ,to up fitness levels,to work hard to finish 4th from bottom .we need to plan now.

When emi goes this week and poss Arron’s we will be lucky to get to the premiership 

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2 hours ago, ron obvious said:

Having some fit specialist CBs.

That would be filed under 'fail to prepare' 

We knew the defence wasn't suitable for the prem.

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2 hours ago, hogesar said:

We arent even promoted yet and the same names are trying to put down the club for getting relegated in 18 months time for a division we arent even in.

You couldn't make it up...

The op was about planning for the Prem, we didn't last time and we aren't ready now either.

We have this transfer window and the summer transfer window, will the obvious concerns be addressed?

They weren't last time. 

That's not being unnecessarily negative, it's being realistic about what is happening before our very eyes.

At the end of January we will be better placed to understand if plans are kn place for promotion. 

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11 minutes ago, Number9 said:

The op was about planning for the Prem, we didn't last time and we aren't ready now either.

We have this transfer window and the summer transfer window, will the obvious concerns be addressed?

They weren't last time. 

That's not being unnecessarily negative, it's being realistic about what is happening before our very eyes.

At the end of January we will be better placed to understand if plans are kn place for promotion. 

Well no, other than holding onto our best players January is a nonsensical window to try and sign players for the next season.

Not only will prem level players be interesting...current Premier league clubs, its also an unnecessary risk at a point where we arent promoted. 

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28 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Well no, other than holding onto our best players January is a nonsensical window to try and sign players for the next season.

Not only will prem level players be interesting...current Premier league clubs, its also an unnecessary risk at a point where we arent promoted. 

Surely we need to sign some players and those players really need to be better than we have at present. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Number9 said:

Surely we need to sign some players and those players really need to be better than we have at present. 

 

Well, unlikely. Our players have us top of the championship. I.e some of the best in the league. To strengthen upon that in January is unlikely. We might be able to add depth? But that's about it.

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