York Canary 28 Posted November 2, 2018 “...if we didn’t make the play offs at the end of the season from this position” Mick Dennis on the AlongComeNorwich podcast. Thoughts? Personally I think that’s rubbish. I’d be disappointed, don’t get me wrong, but we’re not even half way into the season, the league is tight as anything and in perspective, this season is promising to be a huge improvement compared to last. Don’t get me wrong, the play offs (at least!) should be our aim, I just don’t think a well known fan who has links to the board should be putting pressure on with these sorts of statements. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,168 Posted November 2, 2018 I seem to remember that his forecast for the season was full of negatives as well ... before a ball had even been kicked. That latest utterance is utter nonsense. Has he watched the way we have been playing recently? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Totally agree with the op. Upping the levels of expectation is frankly daft at this stage. The manager and team have to play on a game by game basis and we should be the same - over expectation is poisonous to a club and ever since Lambert left, the expectation put on players and managers has been at an unsustainable level. We have to learn to enjoy the process, not the outcome - and to be fair I think most of us do realise that and just try and enjoy the ride. Mick Dennis - and anyone else that comes out with daft statements like that - should know better. Edited November 2, 2018 by lake district canary spelling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,168 Posted November 2, 2018 Provincial hack trying to be insightful.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted November 2, 2018 Wouldn't be an 'abject failure'. If anything, with our budget and recent cost cutting and overall transformation of the club it should be seen as a success that we're in and around it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,558 Posted November 2, 2018 I generally like Mick Dennis, but this comment is silly and probably him getting carried away in the moment. There are 10 teams within 6 points from the top of the league - and the Championship is always prone to fluctuations. I would recommend people listening to Nick Ma****er on the Talk Norwich City podcast, he talks a hell of a lot of sense and really sums things up well and in contrast to Mick he suggest a top 10 finish would be an achievement this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 2, 2018 I must admit, the season is going a lot better than I expected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
York Canary 28 Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: I generally like Mick Dennis, but this comment is silly and probably him getting carried away in the moment. There are 10 teams within 6 points from the top of the league - and the Championship is always prone to fluctuations. I would recommend people listening to Nick Ma****er on the Talk Norwich City podcast, he talks a hell of a lot of sense and really sums things up well and in contrast to Mick he suggest a top 10 finish would be an achievement this season. I would give this a listen but I can’t stand tweedle dee and tweedle dum from TNC 🚫 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 953 Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: I generally like Mick Dennis, but this comment is silly and probably him getting carried away in the moment. There are 10 teams within 6 points from the top of the league - and the Championship is always prone to fluctuations. I would recommend people listening to Nick Ma****er on the Talk Norwich City podcast, he talks a hell of a lot of sense and really sums things up well and in contrast to Mick he suggest a top 10 finish would be an achievement this season. Loving the nice and subtle swear detection.... Shame I can't seem to change the colour of the censorship mind... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted November 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, cornish sam said: Loving the nice and subtle swear detection.... Shame I can't seem to change the colour of the censorship mind... Makes me curious about Scunthorpe. Didn't AOL ban any mention of the place in the early years of the Internet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted November 2, 2018 Seems to have made it through... But if I just dropped the c bomb, it presumably wouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,161 Posted November 2, 2018 Right now everything has been clicking and we've been performing really well although only winning by single goal margins. There was a comment about our last 10 game points return being the best in the EFL ? It's all about whether we can sustain it or see a bit of a slump. "Abject failure" is just a bit silly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,405 Posted November 2, 2018 We are currently looking very good and there are considerable grounds for optimism - however, I suspect that I am typical of many of us in fearing a "bubble bursting." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted November 2, 2018 I have to confess I would be very disappointed if we didn't make top 6 this season, there's a depth & resilience to this squad that wasn't there last year. Not abject failure though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,412 Posted November 2, 2018 20 teams in with a shot at the playoffs and it would be abject failure if they miss out. Well he did write for the Sun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted November 2, 2018 Since I was initially expecting a 13th-15th finish this season, anything better is a bonus to those expectations. Now we are as near as damn to a third of the way through the season and after Saturday, an even number of homes and away games completed, we ought to be able to get a reasonably clear picture of where it should finish. When I did a survey of recent seasons the results seemed pretty clear that 90% of teams will finish up no more than 4 spots from where they are after 16 games. Depending on Saturdays results I might be on the verge of predicting we go up and 1p5wich go down.😀 Wouldn't that be nice👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, York Canary said: “...if we didn’t make the play offs at the end of the season from this position” Mick Dennis on the AlongComeNorwich podcast. Thoughts? Personally I think that’s rubbish. I’d be disappointed, don’t get me wrong, but we’re not even half way into the season, the league is tight as anything and in perspective, this season is promising to be a huge improvement compared to last. Don’t get me wrong, the play offs (at least!) should be our aim, I just don’t think a well known fan who has links to the board should be putting pressure on with these sorts of statements. Mick's an extreme happy clapper so surprised he's said something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted November 2, 2018 The longer we get into the season the more goal averages give a likely indication of the top two. Anything over two will usually get you promoted. Leeds and Boro both over 2.1at the moment but still time to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted November 2, 2018 4 hours ago, lake district canary said: Totally agree with the op. Upping the levels of expectation is frankly daft at this stage. The manager and team have to play on a game by game basis and we should be the same - over expectation is poisonous to a club and ever since Lambert left, the expectation put on players and managers has been at an unsustainable level. We have to learn to enjoy the process, not the outcome - and to be fair I think most of us do realise that and just try and enjoy the ride. Mick Dennis - and anyone else that comes out with daft statements like that - should know better. So when the eternal optimists endless predictions finally look as though they might come to fruition he tries to tell us that we shouldn't raise our expectations and start dreaming of what could happen. What could possibly go wrong LDC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted November 2, 2018 My head says that we will finish 8th as we just don't have the quality to score enough goals to be higher. My heart says we are finding ways to win games despite not having that ruthlessness, and we'll be 2nd. My wish says Norwich and Ipswich will bookend the table this weekend, and hopefully still come May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 500 Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ron obvious said: I have to confess I would be very disappointed if we didn't make top 6 this season, there's a depth & resilience to this squad that wasn't there last year. Not abject failure though. That's how I understood what Mick was saying, we're looking good enough to make top 6 now & that he thought fans would be disappointed if we didn't make it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted November 2, 2018 Mick is probably right, expectations have certainly been raised. A poor run could easily dash them again but I think our results have been a fair reflection of how we've played. In fact we are probably due a lucky win for a change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted November 3, 2018 Keep up that unplayable one touch football and we'll be there or there abouts. Farke's philosophy appears to be working. That winner at forest showed the intent for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,702 Posted November 3, 2018 Agree, it's a silly statement. I'm happy we're competing atm in a very competitive league. Top six is obviously desirable and achievable, but I wouldn't consider a finish outside of this a failure. Once all the higher earners are off the books at the end of this season, perhaps we can look forward to being even more competitive next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,607 Posted November 3, 2018 Abject failure is extremely strong. I think most reasonable fans would be happy with top 10. However if we fall back badly from this position it would be real disappointment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 3, 2018 Of course it may be that **** Mennis is reflecting the view of the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) At the start of every season every fan of every Club hopes that their team will either (a) get promotion and/or (b) avoid relegation. By the start of November a significant majority will know that (a) is not going to happen so they are left hoping for (b). We are are not in that position and we have a chance. This League this season is not strong and we are as good as any of the other contenders. Of course peoples expectations are high, it's what keeps you going week in and week out. If you don't have expectations of promotion in November when you are in the top 6 and only a couple of points adrift, when do you? Edited November 3, 2018 by Making Plans Change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted November 3, 2018 On 02/11/2018 at 10:40, BroadstairsR said: Provincial hack trying to be insightful.. Sums it up 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites