cambridgeshire canary 6,801 Posted March 22 (edited) Edited March 23 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 696 Posted March 22 Can't believe nobody has mentioned the new kit controversy yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ec-p 98 Posted March 22 Nike messing up yet again. Woeful manufacturers. So glad we don’t have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, Satriales said: Can't believe nobody has mentioned the new kit controversy yet. 4 lions on our chests😂 The flag wavers have been out in force on talk radio this morning. One Taxi Driver was so upset he could barely work. Bless. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,316 Posted March 22 (edited) I can't see how the blame is on Nike as everyone is implying, they're making the kit based on the requirements and subsequent sign-off from the FA surely? I'm quite patriotic but it doesn't bother me a great deal, but I get the argument that if it was done to certain other countries there would be outrage and the more I hear people pushing that I can feel me start to feel that anger. However, as a design I quite like it. It's not supposed to be a flag but a homage to it, isn't it? i.e. when have we ever had a flag on the kit to start with? The identification has always been the four lions from what I can remember. Edit: Just had a look online at old kits and this come up from 2010, why was there no outrage then? Is it because we hadn't all turned into arseholes trotting around americanisms like 'snowflake', 'woke', and 'butthurt', perhaps? Edited March 22 by Google Bot 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,801 Posted March 22 16 minutes ago, Satriales said: Can't believe nobody has mentioned the new kit controversy yet. Even Keir is upset! (Of all people) https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-starmer-backs-calls-for-nike-to-scrap-new-england-football-kit-over-redesigned-st-george-cross-13099453 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,460 Posted March 22 If we are going to criticise the kit, based on the flag, why is there any blue in it at all? The flag is red and white, for the badge the roses are red and the lions on all other heraldic devices are gold, so the kit should be a combination of red, white and gold! No-one (other than me) ever got worked up about that in the past did they? All this nonsense with prats like Barton leading the charge and even Starmer playing the patriot. What a load of **** and storm in a tea cup. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,006 Posted March 22 19 minutes ago, Satriales said: Can't believe nobody has mentioned the new kit controversy yet. What's controversial about it? Nike decided to fiddle a bit with a flag from a saint born in modern-day Turkey who served in the Roman army and LeeAnderthal went apoplectic for absolutely no reason whatsoever, as far as I can see. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 696 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, TheGunnShow said: What's controversial about it? Nike decided to fiddle a bit with a flag from a saint born in modern-day Turkey who served in the Roman army and LeeAnderthal went apoplectic for absolutely no reason whatsoever, as far as I can see. The worst part for me is they are charging £125. Insane. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 696 Posted March 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, shefcanary said: If we are going to criticise the kit, based on the flag, why is there any blue in it at all? The flag is red and white, for the badge the roses are red and the lions on all other heraldic devices are gold, so the kit should be a combination of red, white and gold! No-one (other than me) ever got worked up about that in the past did they? All this nonsense with prats like Barton leading the charge and even Starmer playing the patriot. What a load of **** and storm in a tea cup. With Starmer making a comment, this inevitably means the PM/No. 10 will make a comment as well. Edited March 22 by Satriales Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,428 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Satriales said: The worst part for me is they are charging £125. Insane. Yep. Just read that. Absolutely ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,006 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Satriales said: The worst part for me is they are charging £125. Insane. Agreed. Looks like another attempt at stoking up a culture war for the easily misguided whilst the elephant in the room, namely the pricing, goes uncommented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,428 Posted March 22 I might watch it as it's Brazil. But no interest apart from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,006 Posted March 22 8 minutes ago, shefcanary said: If we are going to criticise the kit, based on the flag, why is there any blue in it at all? The flag is red and white, for the badge the roses are red and the lions on all other heraldic devices are gold, so the kit should be a combination of red, white and gold! No-one (other than me) ever got worked up about that in the past did they? All this nonsense with prats like Barton leading the charge and even Starmer playing the patriot. What a load of **** and storm in a tea cup. Meanwhile, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands join the chat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,800 Posted March 22 I shall be there...was looking forward to seeing a front 4 of Kane Saka Foden Bellingham dismantle Brazil....now it looks as though only 50% of that quartet will be playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,081 Posted March 22 33 minutes ago, Satriales said: The worst part for me is they are charging £125. Insane. Incredible. Who in their right mind would pay that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 545 Posted March 22 54 minutes ago, Google Bot said: I can't see how the blame is on Nike as everyone is implying, they're making the kit based on the requirements and subsequent sign-off from the FA surely? I'm quite patriotic but it doesn't bother me a great deal, but I get the argument that if it was done to certain other countries there would be outrage and the more I hear people pushing that I can feel me start to feel that anger. However, as a design I quite like it. It's not supposed to be a flag but a homage to it, isn't it? i.e. when have we ever had a flag on the kit to start with? The identification has always been the four lions from what I can remember. Edit: Just had a look online at old kits and this come up from 2010, why was there no outrage then? Is it because we hadn't all turned into arseholes trotting around americanisms like 'snowflake', 'woke', and 'butthurt', perhaps? It wouldn’t happen with other countries because the mistake would never have occurred in the first place. Funny how we are the United Kingdom when it suits and England when it doesn’t. I have no interest in international football unless it’s a World Cup or Euros. And even then I am probably the least patriotic Englishmen out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 545 Posted March 22 And anyone who pays £125 for a shirt that probably cost £5 to be made by a child in Bangladesh wants to have a serious word with themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,745 Posted March 22 I don't get why people are going on about Patriotism when the real issue is just the fact that flag looks cr*p and naff, has no meaning beyond getting people to argue about that instead of the ridiculous prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,360 Posted March 22 56 minutes ago, Wings of a Sparrow said: I might watch it as it's Brazil. But no interest apart from that. Yes, but they're not all that these days. Could be a pretty tame match all told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
One Flew Over... 33 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said: 4 lions on our chests😂 The flag wavers have been out in force on talk radio this morning. One Taxi Driver was so upset he could barely work. Bless. Reminded me of this..! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYHn2rRrAE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted March 22 Not particularly bothered about the match, couldn't give a tu'penny toss about the flag debate. Quite like the away kit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 399 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Satriales said: With Starmer making a comment, this inevitably means the PM/No. 10 will make a comment as well. He just has Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 517 Posted March 22 It's a funting disgrace. I blame the Welsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,006 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Google Bot said: I can't see how the blame is on Nike as everyone is implying, they're making the kit based on the requirements and subsequent sign-off from the FA surely? I'm quite patriotic but it doesn't bother me a great deal, but I get the argument that if it was done to certain other countries there would be outrage and the more I hear people pushing that I can feel me start to feel that anger. However, as a design I quite like it. It's not supposed to be a flag but a homage to it, isn't it? i.e. when have we ever had a flag on the kit to start with? The identification has always been the four lions from what I can remember. Edit: Just had a look online at old kits and this come up from 2010, why was there no outrage then? Is it because we hadn't all turned into arseholes trotting around americanisms like 'snowflake', 'woke', and 'butthurt', perhaps? Here's your answer. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,493 Posted March 22 How dare they change the colours of a flag? This has never happened before 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,303 Posted March 22 I'll be watching the game I support England.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,316 Posted March 22 Good news, Nike have decided to follow UKIP's lead and put their logo through the middle of the pound sign in order to show respect back to the country. Hopefully that will calm things down and we can move, nice to see a good solution. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 94 Posted March 22 3 hours ago, TheGunnShow said: What's controversial about it? Nike decided to fiddle a bit with a flag from a saint born in modern-day Turkey who served in the Roman army and LeeAnderthal went apoplectic for absolutely no reason whatsoever, as far as I can see. would it be the same if they changed the Irish flag to pink orange purple I found it offensive if it does not offend you thats fine its a free world I do like the colour mix but do a lion instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites