Making Plans 936 Posted February 10 Should never play in the same team again. Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolf Harris 31 Posted February 10 Who else could of played? Duffy out and Batth is legless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 389 Posted February 10 31 minutes ago, Making Plans said: Should never play in the same team again. Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Amazes me how people still believe Hanley is a good defender. ..and don't start about the yellow card for keeping hold of ball!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 389 Posted February 10 Just now, Rolf Harris said: Who else could of played? Duffy out and Batth is legless. Rather have Barnes there. At least you'd see some fist pumping!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 527 Posted February 10 We play these two so is it a coincidence we concede two goals against a really poor team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 881 Posted February 10 QPR are not a really poor team, not now. They came into todays game of the back of two wins and a draw. They more than matched us for large parts of the game today. Yes we should have been able to old on to the lead, but as things stand a play off place is still doable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,138 Posted February 10 Hanley didn't look up to scratch to me today, it's not his fault as he's been out a long time with a bad injury and hasn't had much game time, infact he was supposed to be out till March so he's done well but he was poor today. Gibson can play the ball out but he wasn't as his best either so with QPR pressing us well on a small pitch we looked pretty hopeless playing out today. Wagner is not going to change how he plays and if we get a new coach in the summer you can guarantee he'll want to pass out from the back too so this area has got to be looked at in the summer. Most people who complain about playing out from the back are more concerned with our ability to do it as opposed to the idea of it, we need better ball playing CB's in the summer. Gibson and Batth will likely be let go and I think one of Hanley or Duffy should go too depending on Hanley's recovery and we need 3 cb's in who are comfortable with the ball at their feet or we're just going to keep causing ourselves issues. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted February 10 But the point is, we are not playing OUT from the back quick enough 3 or 4 minutes at a time of sideways/backwards is unecessary and tedious We must have wasted 20 minutes of game time doing it and most of the time it got us nowhere 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sufyellow 222 Posted February 10 Why are we looking at the central defenders? I think stopping the crosses were horrendous, and for the second time this season we concede from giving the opposition a free throw in to a totally unmarked player. Dimi being part of that both times . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 881 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, Making Plans said: But the point is, we are not playing OUT from the back quick enough 3 or 4 minutes at a time of sideways/backwards is unecessary and tedious We must have wasted 20 minutes of game time doing it and most of the time it got us nowhere It does allow the opposition enough time to close us down and ensure that the rest of our players are marked tightly. The latter being something we seem to have an aversion to. When the opposition move the ball out of defence they always have a couple of unmarked options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 224 Posted February 10 59 minutes ago, RobJames said: QPR are not a really poor team, not now. They came into todays game of the back of two wins and a draw. ~ Against: Blackburn (W) [Â 18th] Huddersfield (D) [21st] Millwall (W) [18th] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWC 240 Posted February 10 Hanley my mom today. As for Gibson, ............. Eeek!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 504 Posted February 10 Imagine Hanley, Duffy, Gibson, Stacey, Batth, Sorensen in The Premiership It would be embarrassing     1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 881 Posted February 10 (edited) 12 minutes ago, daly said: Imagine Hanley, Duffy, Gibson, Stacey, Batth, Sorensen in The Premiership It would be embarrassing Damn that ruling that stops us signing anyone if we get promoted, so well done you for reminding us all of that fact. Though some might recall you being one of the whiners talking of us possibly getting relegated "Oh look the weather co ck is now facing the other way - or should I refer to the weather vane in case some mistake what I am talking about" Edited February 10 by RobJames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,301 Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, daly said: Imagine Hanley, Duffy, Gibson, Stacey, Batth, Sorensen in The Premiership It would be embarrassing     Indeed, add to that, Hernandez, Barnes, Fassnacht and Giannoulis, that’s a lot of players we need to replace! That’s why I still say Wagner is doing far better than people give him credit for! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,286 Posted February 10 Duffy is by far our best centre back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 504 Posted February 10 24 minutes ago, RobJames said: Damn that ruling that stops us signing anyone if we get promoted, so well done you for reminding us all of that fact. Though some might recall you being one of the whiners talking of us possibly getting relegated "Oh look the weather co ck is now facing the other way - or should I refer to the weather vane in case some mistake what I am talking about" Didn’t think we had any MONEY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted February 10 35 minutes ago, K Lo said: Against: Blackburn (W) [ 18th] Huddersfield (D) [21st] Millwall (W) [18th] Does that mean they don’t count?!  It is definitely the case that QPR are a much harder prospect than they were earlier in the season. Oddly enough, I felt we did far less faffing in the first half today, more in the second (which we ‘won’). We definitely overdo it at times - you can only assume data backs up playing that way - but I think mixing it up more would be better for our collective heart rates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,676 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Christoph Stiepermann said: Hanley didn't look up to scratch to me today, it's not his fault as he's been out a long time with a bad injury and hasn't had much game time, infact he was supposed to be out till March so he's done well but he was poor today. Gibson can play the ball out but he wasn't as his best either so with QPR pressing us well on a small pitch we looked pretty hopeless playing out today. I'm normally a Gibson defender (ha, pun) - but him and gini were dreadful on the left-side of defence. Hanley was considerably better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 446 Posted February 10 3 hours ago, Making Plans said: Should never play in the same team again. Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards Sideways, backwards As it happens I thought that Jake Clarke-Salter was QPRs best player today. Only 26, and found himself in the Championship relegation zone for one of the leagues smallest clubs, somehow, despite being really highly rated when a kid at Chelsea, 12 England U21 caps and 3 time FA Youth Cup winner. With about 8 years of football ahead of him (probably) I seriously think we should go in for him when we release Gibson and Baath if he's affordable in terms of transfer fee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazzaJet 254 Posted February 10 Formed a brilliant defensive partnership in Farke’s second promotion campaign but both past it now. Although Gibson’s out of contract this summer I think there may a possibility that he might still be offered a new one if we fail to get promoted, if an offer comes in for Hanley this summer I would take it whilst we can still get some money for him 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,246 Posted February 10 Individually Hanley and Gibson are fine but as I said on another thread I get nervous when they play together. We always look like conceding when happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,735 Posted February 10 2 hours ago, RobJames said: QPR are not a really poor team, not now. They came into todays game of the back of two wins and a draw. They more than matched us for large parts of the game today. Yes we should have been able to old on to the lead, but as things stand a play off place is still doable. "They're not poor they're only 22nd in the table and bottom of the form table" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,526 Posted February 10 I posted on the match thread that Brad Hills on loan at Accrington has been given the captaincy and has featured strongly in central defence all season. It's a proper footballing experience for him in League 2. To be 19 and on loan and given the captaincy is quite a big deal. It shows they have a massive faith in him and just has to be good for us if he's considered capable. Tomlinson has also nailed down a right back slot (often but not all the time) at Bradford City. There are some reasons for us to be cautiously hopeful we have at least some stand in's for next season if we don't go up and we refresh our defence. I suppose we just have to wait to see what the club decides. There is Warner too and I'm expecting at least one to make the grade. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 224 Posted February 11 4 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: Does that mean they don’t count?! ~ No, it means that it's not as significant as if they'd beaten Leicester & Southampton and drawn against Leeds. Thought that would be obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted February 11 (edited) 3 minutes ago, K Lo said: No, it means that it's not as significant as if they'd beaten Leicester & Southampton and drawn against Leeds. Thought that would be obvious. Really. You astound me. Â Of course you entirely miss the point/context by quoting that snippet -Â but well done you! Edited February 11 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 224 Posted February 11 13 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Really. You astound me. Â Of course you entirely miss the point/context by quoting that snippet -Â but well done you! How did I miss the point ? Your additional comment didn't modify what I addressed. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston 53 Posted February 11 12 hours ago, hogesar said: I'm normally a Gibson defender (ha, pun) - but him and gini were dreadful on the left-side of defence. Hanley was considerably better. What game were you watching . Hanley had a real mare assisted by Dimi . Gibbo would get blamed even if he hadn't played . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 764 Posted February 11 14 hours ago, RobJames said: Damn that ruling that stops us signing anyone if we get promoted, so well done you for reminding us all of that fact. Though some might recall you being one of the whiners talking of us possibly getting relegated "Oh look the weather co ck is now facing the other way - or should I refer to the weather vane in case some mistake what I am talking about" I must have missed all those summer signings in 2019 then!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 352 Posted February 11 13 hours ago, hogesar said: I'm normally a Gibson defender (ha, pun) - but him and gini were dreadful on the left-side of defence. Hanley was considerably better. I would have to disagree about Hanley there, he has mitigation in that he has been out injured for so long but he was beaten to the ball easily for QPR's second - and there had been a warning as there was a very similar situation a bit before that where the forward got a header in that just went wide. Also picked up a very silly yellow which could have put him in a difficult situation if he had been forced into a "tactical" foul to stop a break. One of his more forgettable games, for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
