Robornio 107 Posted January 12 Ben the kNapper, wake up and do your damn job! This is woeful. And if it wasn’t for a single piece of brilliance and Hull being dire, we’d be in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertociNCFC 99 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Petriix said: Totally outnumbered in central midfield where he doesn't have the natural game to read the danger and break up play. Should be playing a more advanced role where he could use his skills. He needs a rest I think, even though he is playing out of position he has misplaced quite a few simple passes, not that others haven't done the same but i've noticed a hell of a lot from him tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,689 Posted January 12 17 minutes ago, Hardhouse44 said: Indeed and totally against the run of play. There was no ‘run of play’. It’s been poor stuff from both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Pete 1,920 Posted January 12 Personally, I welcome our new tactic of kick 'em out the game, then just give it to Jonny. We may finish with nine men at this rate, though. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,678 Posted January 12 No doubt if there was VAR that would have been a red for Giannoulis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,801 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Pyro Pete said: Personally, I welcome our new tactic of kick 'em out the game, then just give it to Jonny. We may finish with nine men at this rate, though. Remember the days when we were always the team getting bullied and kicked about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,183 Posted January 12 Gianoullis giving me the heeby jeebies - would seriously consider replacing him with McCallum at half time. Absolutely brilliant goal from Rowe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 517 Posted January 12 When we are a goal up it must be because the opposition are poor. Both teams are playing this out in midfield and it's scrappy. It doesn't make us awful. Not a red btw. Silly stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 439 Posted January 12 If Wagner has a brain he should take Giannoulis off at half-time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,689 Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: We've been poor but Hull are no better. Apart from the one flash of genius it's been awful. A good job Ricardo doesn't have to write a report! To be fair the pitch looks stodgy/bobbly, but you’d definitely expect better from two sides apparently looking towards the playoffs (however unlikely). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,183 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, king canary said: No doubt if there was VAR that would have been a red for Giannoulis. If there was VAR Millwall's clearly offside goal would have been ruled out and our perfectly good goal against Southampton would have been allowed and we would have 3 more points than we do now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 784 Posted January 12 Red card all day long for Giannoulis. With four already booked the chances of us finishing with 11 are slim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,006 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Remember the days when we were always the team getting bullied and kicked about? Exactly. We're now dishing some back and it's getting the tut-tut treatment. If we're lacking confidence a bit, turn games into an absolute scrap and force the opposition to stay in front of you. Challenge them to find a premium through ball in very tight spaces. Still need another central mid in there, or even three centre-halves just to gunk up the middle more but yeah, for all the times we've been a bit soft, this bit of clogging is not a bad thing to see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 717 Posted January 12 Can’t help thinking we will throw this lead by getting a man sent off. Dimi should already be gone to be fair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted January 12 Suspect the ref has been made aware he dropped an absolute clanger in not sending Gianoulis off, and as he's having a poor game anyway I'd get McCallum on for him at HT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 517 Posted January 12 An elbow would be a red. An arm is just contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,136 Posted January 12 Absolute shambles, but that pitch is just embarrassing. The worst pitch in the top 4 leagues? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,678 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Thirsty Lizard said: If there was VAR Millwall's clearly offside goal would have been ruled out and our perfectly good goal against Southampton would have been allowed and we would have 3 more points than we do now. ...OK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,339 Posted January 12 A half that sums us up under Wagner. No decent possession, a bit of threat on the counter and a goal due to individual quality. But no control over the gsme and so easy to play through. we are winning despite the coach not because of hi or his tactics which are sh*t as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Starr 520 Posted January 12 (edited) It's so frustrating. We are better than this. We have quality players who are being held back by limited coaching. It's got to stop. With the shackles off, I feel like we'd storm into the play offs. You know what's coming though. We'll sit back, put men behind the ball. Scrap as much as we can, lose discipline, go down to 10 men and eventually we will tank. Edited January 12 by Michael Starr 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,252 Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, king canary said: No doubt if there was VAR that would have been a red for Giannoulis. He’s always been a liability coupled with flashes of brilliance. Can’t see him getting a new deal, way too unreliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,183 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, king canary said: ...OK? True though isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,252 Posted January 12 Just now, Michael Starr said: It's so frustrating. We are better than this. We have quality players who are being held back by limited coaching. It's got to stop. With the shackles off, I feel like we'd storm into the play offs. You know what's coming though. We'll sit back, put men behind the ball. Scrap as much as we can and eventually we will tank. I agree, said it another thread but most Championship clubs would be envious of an attack including Rowe, Sargent, Sainz and Sara. Our overall squad isn’t top material but we have real talent that’s being wasted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 517 Posted January 12 I want a change of coach. But. A lot if this stuff is just confirmation bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,153 Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: Pretty turgid first half, Rowes goal the only real bit of quality by either side. Midfield need to get into the game. The defence has done a good job keeping Hull at bay but the midfielders need to get their foot on the ball to relieve a bit of pressure now and again and give the strikers something to hold up or run on to. Sargent and Barnes completely reliant on scraps at the moment What midfield? We're playing a 424 with two number 10's in the middle of the park but also setting the team up to stick 10 men behind the ball and asking our defenders to create all of our moves and forwards to do most of the defending. It's all so backwards and overly complicated. Do the basics right, square pegs in square holes, work hard, keep things simple and then when you've got that down and it's working start to implement new ideas. We're trying to be too clever as usual and as a result we look so disjointed and confused. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,678 Posted January 12 Just now, Thirsty Lizard said: True though isn't it? Yes but also irrelevent to whether we were a bit lucky to not be down to 10 men in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
River End Rocker 46 Posted January 12 Our tactics are do reliant on good fullbacks and a holding midfielder, yet those positions are our greatest problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percy varco 200 Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, unique said: If Wagner has a brain he should take Giannoulis off at half-time. It appears he has a brain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,277 Posted January 12 Yippee another 45 mins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted January 12 Wagner in doing something sensible shocker..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites