Barnes

[lake district canary 4,836]

Not seen him back to his best yet since his return from injury, but he needs the right players around him to get the best from him. I'm convinced he has the ability, desire and legs to be important to us this season and next. 

Maybe Sargent will help. A front three of Sargent/Idah or Hwang and Barnes could be brilliant. But we need Sainz and Rowe starting every match too. 

Come on Barnes, let's be aving you! 

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

Dont think he's helping us as either a no.10 , or as a no.9 where he misses big chances

...aside from occasionally clattering the opposition , what we have is an ineffective ' no 9 and a half'

Legs seem to have gone and should be rested in Monday

I think Hwang playing off Sargent would be better now

[Harry53 229]

No forget him. We have Idah ( who has been improving), and Josh back,  we don't need him. I would rather keep Hwang as he has pace and good agility.

Barnes is past his sell by date.

[Capt. Pants 5,018]

Legs have gone; can't run can't jump. Seems to have one or two issues going on in his head as well.

Needs time away from the first team squad to reflect and get fit or get out.

[Haus 267]

5 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Legs have gone; can't run can't jump. Seems to have one or two issues going on in his head as well.

Needs time away from the first team squad to reflect and get fit or get out.

He's on a two year contract and will only decline more.  We are stuck with him 

[Cowboy 240]

10 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Legs have gone; can't run can't jump. Seems to have one or two issues going on in his head as well.

Needs time away from the first team squad to reflect and get fit or get out.

Quite. He looks like a throwback to the 1980s in terms of fitness and physique. I'd like to know what his running stats are since he joined. If you're going to play someone as out of shape as that, he needs to be a creative focal point which he plainly isn't. But that might have been an approach ten years ago - it's not the way to go in modern football anyway, it's too easy to overload and exploit for modern, fit, progressive teams who are well coached and switched on. Has he really got another year and a half on his contract, ffs?

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

Him and Hugill would have been a good partnership. 

[rock bus 1,063]

I actually feel a bit sorry for him.

Seems clear to me that he has probably realised he is a spent force. He’s come from a club where he was loved, being part of a squad that is successful and playing great football. I am sure he played a part in that success from a influencing factor if not actual play.

I expect he came to us with the right intentions of showing he ‘still had it” and could bring us success. Sadly the reality is that he no longer has the skills or legs for the modern game. He has also joined a club which is a complete shambles and a squad of players who are probably as bemused as us fans.

Mentally this means he is just a frustrated and angry player who is now literally just thrashing out at people.

Wagner needs to pull him from the starting 11 and try to just use him from a coaching and supporting level on the training field. Let him regain his pride by focusing on trying to teach Idah how to actually play as a strong centre forward. If he could do that then it would still have been a good signing.

[yellowrider120 920]

49 minutes ago, Haus said:

He's on a two year contract and will only decline more.  We are stuck with him 

Appalling decision by the 'wonderful Stewart'. Will never forgive him for his arrogant comment about the previous regime 'doing something' with the money against the wall when he has done same only to a much worse extent!"'

[yellowrider120 920]

55 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Legs have gone; can't run can't jump. Seems to have one or two issues going on in his head as well.

Needs time away from the first team squad to reflect and get fit or get out.

Utter arrogance springs to mind. He clearly doesn't want to be here either if his recent jibes about the media and his sullen attitude to those who pay his wages are anything to go by.  

[Ulfotto 800]

Let’s be honest no one will move for a one year deal. The idea of Barnes mentoring Sargent and Idah who both need toughing up is a good one.

 

[Capt. Pants 5,018]

2 minutes ago, Ulfotto said:

Let’s be honest no one will move for a one year deal. The idea of Barnes mentoring Sargent and Idah who both need toughing up is a good one.

 

Not really. He will just drag them down to his level. I'd rather have Holty doing that all day long.

[......and Smith must score. 1,600]

44 minutes ago, rock bus said:

I actually feel a bit sorry for him.

Seems clear to me that he has probably realised he is a spent force. He’s come from a club where he was loved, being part of a squad that is successful and playing great football. I am sure he played a part in that success from a influencing factor if not actual play.

 

I doubt he would be feeling loved if he was still at Burnley.

After cakewalking the Championship they look all at sea now and the players must be taking a lot of flak. If he can't cut the mustard at our level this season he would be really woeful in the PL.

[norfolkngood 1,174]

i would try ( i know not many will want him ! )  move him on ,

he is not the future next season he will be worse than this season legs wise ,

he is i imagine on big wages what we could use to give Rowe and Sara a Pay rise to keep them here ,

or his wages could pay for 2 younger hungry strikers wages  who have a bit of pace and goal threat 

[Dean Coneys boots 1,533]

He was meant to bring experience- all he has is thuggery. How he did t get sent off yesterday is insane- he was literally picking up oppo by the shirt and dumping him onto the ground. Legs have gone - shouldn’t be starting, nor should Onel. 

[Corbs1 167]

I watched him with grudging admiration at Burnley, thinking he’s their type of player, certainly not one of ours. Sadly with loss of Farke and identity we end up with a team not suited to our way. I’d have gone for Kamara, knowing he would struggle early doors. But we’re where we are so hoping Sarge and Barnes can re-foster some linkage. Last night I watched with concern as he seemed to play into the Millwall Den trap. Terrible ref, but that was a red for me. 

[Indy 3,477]

4 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Not seen him back to his best yet since his return from injury, but he needs the right players around him to get the best from him. I'm convinced he has the ability, desire and legs to be important to us this season and next. 

Maybe Sargent will help. A front three of Sargent/Idah or Hwang and Barnes could be brilliant. But we need Sainz and Rowe starting every match too. 

Come on Barnes, let's be aving you! 

To be honest Lakey he was ****e a few games before his injury, the start of the season alongside Sargent was his decent showing! He looks a fragment of the player at Burnley and more a liability than anything positive! I wouldn’t be sad to see him & Hwang gone, both utterly poor signings given the wages we must be paying!

[canarybubbles 2,200]

4 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Not seen him back to his best yet since his return from injury, but he needs the right players around him to get the best from him. I'm convinced he has the ability, desire and legs to be important to us this season and next. 

Maybe Sargent will help. A front three of Sargent/Idah or Hwang and Barnes could be brilliant. But we need Sainz and Rowe starting every match too. 

Come on Barnes, let's be aving you! 

He's a thug, more interested in picking fights than in playing football. My opinion is that we might have got something from yesterday's game if he hadn't turned the second half into World War II, which was exactly what Millwall would have wanted.

I realise that all good teams need a 'hard man'. But they need a hard man with brains, not some neanderthal who has anger issues.

[Mason 47 1,926]

Barnes is a player that can add to a side already playing well but offers little to a team out of form. We have a great number of these players currently.

I'm a firm advocate of dropping the #9.5 position (I like this term and am stealing it) in favour of an advanced midfielder and using Barnes as the Hugill. 

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

Should be released imo

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,633]

7 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Should be released imo

No way.

[unique 466]

“Not seen him back to his best yet……”

Get used to it… you won’t.
 

A pale shadow of his former self. Another addition to our legion of players with an unerring ability to not threaten the opposing goal..

 

[Ken Hairy 4,272]

31 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

No way.

Yes way dude. 

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,830]

Unfortunately it does seem to be becoming more and more clear that he's just past his sell by date. If he was the Barnes of 5 years ago we'd have a player on our hands, as it is as many have said we have a glorified cheer leader on the pitch when we could try Hwang/Fass/Gibbs/Sara a.n other in the 10 (9.5) position and actually have someone who gives more than a knock out. 

Really disappointing because I actually like Barnes and that type of forward but he's just lost a lot. Surely there's a younger version out there in league one? 

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,633]

14 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Yes way dude. 

Why pay up his contract and release him? He’s far more use to us than that! 

Give him a break. Some of the comments about him are shocking. 

[canarybubbles 2,200]

7 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Unfortunately it does seem to be becoming more and more clear that he's just past his sell by date. If he was the Barnes of 5 years ago we'd have a player on our hands, as it is as many have said we have a glorified cheer leader on the pitch when we could try Hwang/Fass/Gibbs/Sara a.n other in the 10 (9.5) position and actually have someone who gives more than a knock out. 

Really disappointing because I actually like Barnes and that type of forward but he's just lost a lot. Surely there's a younger version out there in league one? 

Well, if he is past his sell by date, he's got a nice little earner for the next 18 months. I genuinely sometimes wonder if Webber deliberately screwed up this summer's recruitment just to spite us for not acknowledging his genius.

[Indy 3,477]

8 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Unfortunately it does seem to be becoming more and more clear that he's just past his sell by date. If he was the Barnes of 5 years ago we'd have a player on our hands, as it is as many have said we have a glorified cheer leader on the pitch when we could try Hwang/Fass/Gibbs/Sara a.n other in the 10 (9.5) position and actually have someone who gives more than a knock out. 

Really disappointing because I actually like Barnes and that type of forward but he's just lost a lot. Surely there's a younger version out there in league one? 

That’s true for all the old duffers we signed this summer!

[......and Smith must score. 1,600]

8 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Unfortunately it does seem to be becoming more and more clear that he's just past his sell by date. If he was the Barnes of 5 years ago we'd have a player on our hands…..

If he was the Barnes of five years ago he wouldn’t be scuffing around in the Championship

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,830]

6 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

If he was the Barnes of five years ago he wouldn’t be scuffing around in the Championship

Very true and proves my point that we'd have a player on our hands but we have a shadow of that Barnes now. 

[canarybubbles 2,200]

23 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said:

Why pay up his contract and release him? He’s far more use to us than that! 

Give him a break. Some of the comments about him are shocking. 

He was signed to provide experience and guidance to our young players, not to teach them how to get into fights and wrestle opponents to the ground. In theory he is there to teach players like Sainz not to be stupid and lose their head, but then behaves even more stupidly than they do and effectively condones their behaviour by example. He turns the second half of yesterday's game into a war, which did nothing to help our chances of getting something out of the game. He is a technically limited, unintelligent, third-rate thug who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near our promising youngsters, and probably not our first team either. That we are reduced to signing someone like him shows how much our club has declined over the past two and a half years.

Edited December 30, 2023 by canarybubbles