Capt. Pants 4,284 Posted December 29, 2023 Well I wasn't expecting that line-up! No excuses though and judging by the matches coming up 3 pts is really needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 477 Posted December 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said: An odd line up. I assume Duffy injured and Rowe rested? Odd one dropping Rowe with Sainz also missing though. Let's hope this isn't an indication that Rowe is about to be sold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 512 Posted December 29, 2023 It’s BINGO. NAMES IN A HAT Start the machine let the balls roll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,820 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: Let's hope this isn't an indication that Rowe is about to be sold Or prehaps it's beacuase he's already started in and played in two matches this week? Edited December 29, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 439 Posted December 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, RobJames said: Any team selection is as much about combating any threats from them, as it is about posing ones of our own When you start with Hernandez, you have little intention of posing a serious threat to the opposition. When you start with Gibson , you are inviting trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 477 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Or prehaps it's beacuase he's already started in and played in two matches this week? Who knows, I don't understand Wagners decisions at the best of times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,800 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, unique said: When you start with Hernandez, you have little intention of posing a serious threat to the opposition. When you start with Gibson , you are inviting trouble. Add to that when you start with Fassnacht you might as well play with 10 men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 517 Posted December 29, 2023 It's a squad time of year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted December 29, 2023 Insane. Staggeringly insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,487 Posted December 29, 2023 4 games in 10 days and people are complaining it's not the same players again and again. Even if some are it's not a huge squad. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 477 Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, TIL 1010 said: Add to that when you start with Fassnacht you might as well play with 10 men. I actually think that Fassnacht should be in that second striker slot playing through the middle instead of Barnes. Little known fact about Fassnacht is that he has played almost 50 games as a centre forward and has a 1 in 2 scoring record in those games. He doesn't have the turn of pace needed to play out wide in this system. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,680 Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, KiwiScot said: 4 games in 10 days and people are complaining it's not the same players again and again. Even if some are it's not a huge squad. The rotation excuse doesn't wash. Rowe 'rested' despite coming off at halftime, Barnes seems to start no matter what, McLean played 90 minutes and is shoved back into midfield the first chance we get etc etc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,946 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, daly said: Glad Duffy out I've slagged Duffy off as much as anyone on here, and in general I wish we'd never signed him, but he had a really good game at West Brom. That sort of backs-to-the-wall game with lots of balls in from the wings suits him. I thought Millwall would suit him, too, if they're still playing their up-and-under style. Unlike Southampton. I don't think he should be anywhere near the pitch in that game against far more sophisticated opponents. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,680 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: I actually think that Fassnacht should be in that second striker slot playing through the middle instead of Barnes. Little known fact about Fassnacht is that he has played almost 50 games as a centre forward and has a 1 in 2 scoring record in those games. He doesn't have the turn of pace needed to play out wide in this system. He's gash though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted December 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, Monty13 said: Tough choice between him and Nunez For a CM role it's not a tough choice at all. The choice really was Gibson or Nunez. And to pick Gibson is unimaginably stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 477 Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, king canary said: He's gash though. Barnes isn't exactly Pele though is he. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyJonnyRowe 477 Posted December 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Or prehaps it's beacuase he's already started in and played in two matches this week? Only played half of one of them didn't he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barham Blitz 664 Posted December 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, daly said: Glad Duffy out As am I. But Gibson and Batth together is still the slowest possible combination available without him. Generally a bit of an odd overall selection. Although I'll hopefully be proved wrong ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,820 Posted December 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: I actually think that Fassnacht should be in that second striker slot playing through the middle instead of Barnes. Little known fact about Fassnacht is that he has played almost 50 games as a centre forward and has a 1 in 2 scoring record in those games. He doesn't have the turn of pace needed to play out wide in this system. Well Wagner does seem to love playing players in positions they really should not be in for some reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Well Wagner does seem to love playing players in positions they really should not be in for some reason Like Gibson in the starting XI. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,417 Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Well Wagner does seem to love playing players in positions they really should not be in for some reason You mean like Long in goal? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,864 Posted December 29, 2023 Looks like Wagner has gone for pure Brexit-ball to combat Millwall, hence the added physicality. I imagine Rowe, Sainz and Nuñez will be back for Southampton, when we need to keep the ball. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,680 Posted December 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, JonnyJonnyRowe said: Barnes isn't exactly Pele though is he. No, he is also gash. If McLean is back in midfield then one of Sara or Nunez should be in that position. Wagner won't budge for his weird 'two false striker' formation though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted December 29, 2023 1-1 I reckon. Surprised to see Rowe left out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,487 Posted December 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, king canary said: The rotation excuse doesn't wash. Rowe 'rested' despite coming off at halftime, Barnes seems to start no matter what, McLean played 90 minutes and is shoved back into midfield the first chance we get etc etc Of course it washes. You just don't like the selection. Rest some players, keep others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 789 Posted December 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, KiwiScot said: 4 games in 10 days and people are complaining it's not the same players again and again. Even if some are it's not a huge squad. Exactly. I can't work out whether people don't understand sport science and the need to rest players during a busy period or just like to ignore the facts and have a good old moan. Some players will be knackered and on the edge of an injury, some won't and team selection reflects that. It's not rocket science! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,068 Posted December 29, 2023 He needed to shuffle the pack with games coming thick and fast so I'm not surprised its an interesting starting 11. Yes McLean is undroppable, no I don't get it either, but Sargent is back and for that we should all be over the moon. We've arguably just re-signed the best no.9 in the league for our second half of the season play-off push. Onwards and upwards. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,209 Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, king canary said: The rotation excuse doesn't wash. Rowe 'rested' despite coming off at halftime, Barnes seems to start no matter what, McLean played 90 minutes and is shoved back into midfield the first chance we get etc etc As I said above. It never seems to apply to Sara either.  Edited December 29, 2023 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,541 Posted December 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: But if he's resting players, why is Barnes there? He has looked every minute of his 34 years recently. I guess he has looked fit during training? Plus, the next game he may be dropped? Who knows with Wagner. Barnes has missed some great chances recently. Just hope he buries one this evening. An early goal would be excellent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites