Brewers fans have their say on Attanasio

[cambridgeshire canary 6,742]

 

[Soldier on 160]

Hypothetically if he were to sell the brewers that would be very good news for us potentially. They are worth over a billion dollars ??

[PurpleCanary 5,563]

7 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

This is from the fans' forum:

Looking back, most of us can agree that the mid-2000s up through the 2011 NLCS run, we were on an upward trajectory; drafted and developed plenty of young talent, made a few big moves (Sabathia, Greinke, etc.) and changed the narrative about the franchise. After a few not so great years, Melvin's final year, trading assets for rebuilding pieces, and into the Stearns era, also felt like the team was on an upward trajectory. Yelich and Cain acquisitions, the 2018 NLCS run, division titles, the "pitching lab", etc.

It feels like for about a year or so now the tide is turning though. Trading an elite closer at the trade deadline while leading the division, to save money on payroll. Stearns' "bites of the apple" comment. Attanasio threatening to move the team if the stadium deal didn't get done. And now our biggest rival steals our highly-regarded, Milwaukee-native manager. We haven't even gotten to the Burnes (or Adames? and forget about Woodruff) trades yet.

My point is not to be all doom and gloom. We're still much better off than we were 20-25 years ago. But it sure feels like we're entering (or have entered) a phase where ownership is just mailing it in, letting the franchise value go up while not really caring about the fans or team all that much. Not Rockies or Athetics level of dgaf at all, but more like a Minnesota Timberwolves "we're happy to make the playoffs! Yay!" type of mentality.

[Satriales 655]

'ownership is just mailing it in' isn't something we wan't to hear about the new owner!

[shefcanary 2,410]

1 minute ago, Satriales said:

'ownership is just mailing it in' isn't something we wan't to hear about the new owner!

Maybe because his focus is all on NR1? Wishful thinking on my part of course!  

[501Canary 0]

2 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

The fans are pissed because they didn't try and sign their manager to a new contract, instead allowed him to go to their rivals.  Definitely not a smart business move. 

[canarydan23 4,060]

9 minutes ago, 501Canary said:

The fans are pissed because they didn't try and sign their manager to a new contract, instead allowed him to go to their rivals.  Definitely not a smart business move. 

Can he jump in and let our manager go to a rival?

[Robert N. LiM 4,394]

Attanasio Out!

It was so much better when we were fan owned. Just like I always said.

Here, Large Vince et al. Ctrl+C for your future use.

[hogesar 9,693]

Ah, would be an unfortunate but somewhat humorous irony if all those that have been consistently derogatory towards Delia because she's not rich enough start moaning about our new rich owner before he's even started...

[PurpleCanary 5,563]

3 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

This is from the fans' forum:

Looking back, most of us can agree that the mid-2000s up through the 2011 NLCS run, we were on an upward trajectory; drafted and developed plenty of young talent, made a few big moves (Sabathia, Greinke, etc.) and changed the narrative about the franchise. After a few not so great years, Melvin's final year, trading assets for rebuilding pieces, and into the Stearns era, also felt like the team was on an upward trajectory. Yelich and Cain acquisitions, the 2018 NLCS run, division titles, the "pitching lab", etc.

It feels like for about a year or so now the tide is turning though. Trading an elite closer at the trade deadline while leading the division, to save money on payroll. Stearns' "bites of the apple" comment. Attanasio threatening to move the team if the stadium deal didn't get done. And now our biggest rival steals our highly-regarded, Milwaukee-native manager. We haven't even gotten to the Burnes (or Adames? and forget about Woodruff) trades yet.

My point is not to be all doom and gloom. We're still much better off than we were 20-25 years ago. But it sure feels like we're entering (or have entered) a phase where ownership is just mailing it in, letting the franchise value go up while not really caring about the fans or team all that much. Not Rockies or Athetics level of dgaf at all, but more like a Minnesota Timberwolves "we're happy to make the playoffs! Yay!" type of mentality.

Just highlighting that for Parma's "equity gain" benefit...🤩

[GenerationA47 755]

29 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Ah, would be an unfortunate but somewhat humorous irony if all those that have been consistently derogatory towards Delia because she's not rich enough start moaning about our new rich owner before he's even started...

Her fault for choosing him.

 It’s all pre-written!

[Northluck C 30]

Clicked on this thread expecting to see Burton Albion fans having their say on Attanasio…

[Google Bot 3,278]

1 hour ago, canarydan23 said:

Can he jump in and let our manager go to a rival?

May I even propose a swap?

[NorthCarolinaYellow 197]

Okay, okay. American chiming in here with a lot more context that is missing from the above comments by a Brewers fan. Caveat: I'm a Cubs fan and kind of hate them. But anyways ...

 

1. The Brewers have been and ARE a whiny little bunch. They perpetually live in the shadow of the Chicago Cubs and so have "Little Brother Syndrome." Milwaukee is kind of a dump and they don't have much exciting going on their lives.

2. Despite this, and also despite historically not being all that great by MLB standards ... they've developed a sense of entitlement in recent years. Why? Because they've actually been winning and doing well BECAUSE THE ATTANASIO FAMILY ARE GOOD OWNERS. They have the Brewers punching well above their weight through a combination of shrewd business moves, exploitation of the relative weakness of their division (National League Central), and ...

3. Craig Counsell. A Milwaukee native, former Brewers player (and a solid one), and their manager since 2015 (his only ever managerial gig). Widely regarded as one of the best in the game and has been much coveted.

4. Yesterday, in an absolute shocker, the Chicago Cubs stole Counsell out from under the Brewer's feet for BIG MONEY. Can't blame him, or the Cubs, who have ambitions and MUCH more money.

5. The Brewers fans, and everyone else, are rightly shocked. And they're pissed. They'll be fine. They'll go back to being mostly irrelevant.

6. Overall, it is incredibly hard to win baseball games and win a World Series. A "good" baseball team will only win 60% of its games. What happens when the ball leaves the bat is highly unpredictable, leading to lots of variability in the outcomes of games. This year ZERO of the top 5 MLB teams by win % made it to the World Series. That's even an outlier by baseball standards but highlights the central point: Winning in baseball is hard and "Oh if the Attanasios had just signed that one player we would have won the World Series!!" speak is garbage.

 

I'll remain on the sidelines for any and all questions about baseball! 

[Mello Yello 2,296]

Brewers droop....

[repman 635]

1 hour ago, 501Canary said:

The fans are pissed because they didn't try and sign their manager to a new contract, instead allowed him to go to their rivals.  Definitely not a smart business move. 

They certainly did try, their initial offer would still have made him the highest paid manager in the sport today whereas the Cubs have given him the biggest contract in history, all in a period where the manager position in baseball feels less important than ever.

[Robert N. LiM 4,394]

1 hour ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

I'll remain on the sidelines for any and all questions about baseball! 

Very helpful, cheers.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Robert N. LiM

[Capt. Pants 4,252]

Perhaps had he not loaned us all that money they could have kept Counsell.

One thing for certain he won't be popular here long, if at all; owners never are really as fans always like spending other people's money and they never spend enough. 

[501Canary 0]

Let's Go CUBBIES!

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

2 hours ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

Okay, okay. American chiming in here with a lot more context that is missing from the above comments by a Brewers fan. Caveat: I'm a Cubs fan and kind of hate them. But anyways ...

 

1. The Brewers have been and ARE a whiny little bunch. They perpetually live in the shadow of the Chicago Cubs and so have "Little Brother Syndrome." Milwaukee is kind of a dump and they don't have much exciting going on their lives.

2. Despite this, and also despite historically not being all that great by MLB standards ... they've developed a sense of entitlement in recent years. Why? Because they've actually been winning and doing well BECAUSE THE ATTANASIO FAMILY ARE GOOD OWNERS. They have the Brewers punching well above their weight through a combination of shrewd business moves, exploitation of the relative weakness of their division (National League Central), and ...

3. Craig Counsell. A Milwaukee native, former Brewers player (and a solid one), and their manager since 2015 (his only ever managerial gig). Widely regarded as one of the best in the game and has been much coveted.

4. Yesterday, in an absolute shocker, the Chicago Cubs stole Counsell out from under the Brewer's feet for BIG MONEY. Can't blame him, or the Cubs, who have ambitions and MUCH more money.

5. The Brewers fans, and everyone else, are rightly shocked. And they're pissed. They'll be fine. They'll go back to being mostly irrelevant.

6. Overall, it is incredibly hard to win baseball games and win a World Series. A "good" baseball team will only win 60% of its games. What happens when the ball leaves the bat is highly unpredictable, leading to lots of variability in the outcomes of games. This year ZERO of the top 5 MLB teams by win % made it to the World Series. That's even an outlier by baseball standards but highlights the central point: Winning in baseball is hard and "Oh if the Attanasios had just signed that one player we would have won the World Series!!" speak is garbage.

 

I'll remain on the sidelines for any and all questions about baseball! 

So Brewers fans are like us.

[Nexus_Canary 1,020]

2 hours ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

Okay, okay. American chiming in here with a lot more context that is missing from the above comments by a Brewers fan. Caveat: I'm a Cubs fan and kind of hate them. But anyways ...

 

1. The Brewers have been and ARE a whiny little bunch. They perpetually live in the shadow of the Chicago Cubs and so have "Little Brother Syndrome." Milwaukee is kind of a dump and they don't have much exciting going on their lives.

2. Despite this, and also despite historically not being all that great by MLB standards ... they've developed a sense of entitlement in recent years. Why? Because they've actually been winning and doing well BECAUSE THE ATTANASIO FAMILY ARE GOOD OWNERS. They have the Brewers punching well above their weight through a combination of shrewd business moves, exploitation of the relative weakness of their division (National League Central), and ...

3. Craig Counsell. A Milwaukee native, former Brewers player (and a solid one), and their manager since 2015 (his only ever managerial gig). Widely regarded as one of the best in the game and has been much coveted.

4. Yesterday, in an absolute shocker, the Chicago Cubs stole Counsell out from under the Brewer's feet for BIG MONEY. Can't blame him, or the Cubs, who have ambitions and MUCH more money.

5. The Brewers fans, and everyone else, are rightly shocked. And they're pissed. They'll be fine. They'll go back to being mostly irrelevant.

6. Overall, it is incredibly hard to win baseball games and win a World Series. A "good" baseball team will only win 60% of its games. What happens when the ball leaves the bat is highly unpredictable, leading to lots of variability in the outcomes of games. This year ZERO of the top 5 MLB teams by win % made it to the World Series. That's even an outlier by baseball standards but highlights the central point: Winning in baseball is hard and "Oh if the Attanasios had just signed that one player we would have won the World Series!!" speak is garbage.

 

I'll remain on the sidelines for any and all questions about baseball! 

Doesn't half of that sound painfully like us???

 

[FenwayFrank 2,459]

2 hours ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

Milwaukee is kind of a dump and they don't have much exciting going on their lives.

Like Ipsw*ch then

[Cowboy 197]

2 hours ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

6. Overall, it is incredibly hard to win baseball games and win a World Series. A "good" baseball team will only win 60% of its games. What happens when the ball leaves the bat is highly unpredictable, leading to lots of variability in the outcomes of games. This year ZERO of the top 5 MLB teams by win % made it to the World Series. That's even an outlier by baseball standards but highlights the central point: Winning in baseball is hard and "Oh if the Attanasios had just signed that one player we would have won the World Series!!" speak is garbage.

Helluva job to win a World Series with teams from all those other nations piling in! 😜

[Google Bot 3,278]

Brewers fans vandalised a sign relating to the out-going coach:

...Unless it was Mark himself, of course! 

[Soldier on 160]

3 hours ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

Okay, okay. American chiming in here with a lot more context that is missing from the above comments by a Brewers fan. Caveat: I'm a Cubs fan and kind of hate them. But anyways ...

 

1. The Brewers have been and ARE a whiny little bunch. They perpetually live in the shadow of the Chicago Cubs and so have "Little Brother Syndrome." Milwaukee is kind of a dump and they don't have much exciting going on their lives.

2. Despite this, and also despite historically not being all that great by MLB standards ... they've developed a sense of entitlement in recent years. Why? Because they've actually been winning and doing well BECAUSE THE ATTANASIO FAMILY ARE GOOD OWNERS. They have the Brewers punching well above their weight through a combination of shrewd business moves, exploitation of the relative weakness of their division (National League Central), and ...

3. Craig Counsell. A Milwaukee native, former Brewers player (and a solid one), and their manager since 2015 (his only ever managerial gig). Widely regarded as one of the best in the game and has been much coveted.

4. Yesterday, in an absolute shocker, the Chicago Cubs stole Counsell out from under the Brewer's feet for BIG MONEY. Can't blame him, or the Cubs, who have ambitions and MUCH more money.

5. The Brewers fans, and everyone else, are rightly shocked. And they're pissed. They'll be fine. They'll go back to being mostly irrelevant.

6. Overall, it is incredibly hard to win baseball games and win a World Series. A "good" baseball team will only win 60% of its games. What happens when the ball leaves the bat is highly unpredictable, leading to lots of variability in the outcomes of games. This year ZERO of the top 5 MLB teams by win % made it to the World Series. That's even an outlier by baseball standards but highlights the central point: Winning in baseball is hard and "Oh if the Attanasios had just signed that one player we would have won the World Series!!" speak is garbage.

 

I'll remain on the sidelines for any and all questions about baseball! 

Thanks for posting. Useful to have a bit of balance .

[Barham Blitz 653]

7 hours ago, Satriales said:

'ownership is just mailing it in' isn't something we wan't to hear about the new owner!

Maybe somebody has suggested he can get away with a 90% focus on work and he has developed a sudden interest in mountain climbing as a result...

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,220]

5 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

Just highlighting that for Parma's "equity gain" benefit...🤩

Indeed. Both sides can do Due Diligence.

Parma 

[Fuzzar 1,702]

5 hours ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

What happens when the ball leaves the bat is highly unpredictable. 

Much like Shane Duffy's boot then. 

[Thirsty Lizard 3,166]

17 hours ago, Fuzzar said:

Much like Shane Duffy's boot then. 

Unpredictable???

I thought Duffy O.G was the usual result...........................

[Mr Angry 1,563]

On 07/11/2023 at 16:34, NorthCarolinaYellow said:

 Milwaukee is kind of a dump and they don't have much exciting going on their lives.

 

Can't have been that bad, Happy Days was set there.