Talks have been held about Wagners future

[Highland Canary 76]

There is no toxicity only apathy among the fan base. The disconnect will take years to correct. Of course he’s staying - only the backlash following the December humiliation might change matters by which time we’ll likely be in the relegation positions.

[S_81 797]

1 minute ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

...shame it will have to come to this, they could have relieved Wagner whilst maintaining a bit of dignity in tact

....but seems it will have to now turn personal,nasty and possibily even violent to get these f#cking imcompetent amatuers to act

It’s won’t ever happen. The crowd is too passive in the majority. A bunch of day trippers. The minority need to make their feelings known. Bar some empty seats at the end I’d say they failed to do so on Saturday. 

[cambridgeshire canary 6,720]

2 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

...shame it will have to come to this, they could have relieved Wagner whilst maintaining a bit of dignity in tact

....but seems it will have to now turn personal,nasty and possibily even violent to get these f#cking imcompetent amatuers to act

'Possibly even violent'

 

With the new police laws about online content I really wouldn't say and post that unless you fancy getting a knock at your door from your local PC Plod

Edited November 6, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary

[nutty nigel 7,537]

I don't think a 12 month rolling contract means it doesn't have accountability clauses. I think it only means the contract negotiated continually rolls forward. Happy to be corrected by the businessmen on here.

[Virtual reality 709]

Worth highlighting its the international break afterwards so maybe they will act then. It could be a case of working on targets now so someone is ready to come in over the break. 

[nutty nigel 7,537]

1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

'Possibly even violent'

 

With the new police laws about online content I really wouldn't say and post that unless you fancy getting a knock at your door from your local PC Plod

It's ok. There's no hatred to see there...

[splutcho 173]

I would love to have a 5 minute conversation with the board right now. They have just guaranteed another loss on Saturday like they guaranteed one yesterday by not sacking him last week. They are tossing away time and points for no reason. Is it stubbornness? Idiocy? 

 

I'm raging.

[S_81 797]

Just now, nutty nigel said:

I don't think a 12 month rolling contract means it doesn't have accountability clauses. I think it only means the contract negotiated continually rolls forward. Happy to be corrected by the businessmen on here.

Yeah you’d hope so. I suspect he’s gone in January and they’re stalling for time, solely focussed on the financials. 

[Mason 47 1,379]

Just now, nutty nigel said:

I don't think a 12 month rolling contract means it doesn't have accountability clauses. I think it only means the contract negotiated continually rolls forward. Happy to be corrected by the businessmen on here.

I think we sorted this on another thread somewhere, not sure where though.

The 12-month rolling deal is essentially a 12-month contract with extras. It rolls onto a new 12 months or terminates on completion, so Wagner essentially only has a contract til January at this time 

[OnDaBall 137]

Knapper out! I'm getting it in early, what a complete farce.

[Capt. Pants 4,234]

3 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

...shame it will have to come to this, they could have relieved Wagner whilst maintaining a bit of dignity in tact

....but seems it will have to now turn personal,nasty and possibily even violent to get these f#cking imcompetent amatuers to act

We will do what is necessary.

Clearly we have to quickly turn our attentions in getting shot of Delia and Co. They're becoming a danger to our club in their old age.

We need new owners, a complete new BOD, new decision makers.

[Coneys Knee 957]

I think it’s a dangerous game they’re playing for themselves as every game they leave Wagner in charge builds resentment towards them. We all know Wagner is gone at some Point in the near future. They could ease the pressure on themselves by getting rid. Keeping him will, I’m convinced, only act to turn more people against the ownership. Dangerous and somewhat ignorant move by the so called “leaders” of this club. 
 

The heat simply has to be turned up against delia and MWJ, forget Wagner and Webber, they are dead men walking. It’s our only chance.

[Coneys Knee 957]

2 minutes ago, S_81 said:

Yeah you’d hope so. I suspect he’s gone in January and they’re stalling for time, solely focussed on the financials. 

No way will Wagner make it to January. I’d be very surprised, even with this board, if he lasted another week.

[Midlands Yellow 3,986]

Just now, Capt. Pants said:

We will do what is necessary.

Clearly we have to quickly turn our attentions in getting shot of Delia and Co. They're becoming a danger to our club in their old age.

We need new owners, a complete new BOD, new decision makers.

We have done for quite a while, it’s a complete farce. No way would Delia and the gang get away with it at most other clubs. 

[S_81 797]

1 minute ago, Coneys Knee said:

I think it’s a dangerous game they’re playing for themselves as every game they leave Wagner in charge builds resentment towards them. We all know Wagner is gone at some Point in the near future. They could ease the pressure on themselves by getting rid. Keeping him will, I’m convinced, only act to turn more people against the ownership. Dangerous and somewhat ignorant move by the so called “leaders” of this club. 
 

The heat simply has to be turned up against delia and MWJ, forget Wagner and Webber, they are dead men walking. It’s our only chance.

Totally this. Delia and Co are showing utter contempt for their fan base. Knowingly offering up a substandard product. It’s disgusting. I have absolutely zero idea why someone would travel away to Cardiff to support that. Yet alone to Carrow Road. Enabling this kind of behaviour 

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

13 minutes ago, S_81 said:

But here is the crux of the issue - he isn’t going to be sacked. Knapper is seemingly going to give him a go. For how long we don’t know. Of course eventually he’ll be sacked - as it’s evident he’s useless. But it should be evident to all involved already! We are going to allow Wagner to carry on losing and dragging us into a genuine relegation battle. What an act of self harm 

There is no suggestion of that in the article.

[S_81 797]

1 minute ago, Coneys Knee said:

No way will Wagner make it to January. I’d be very surprised, even with this board, if he lasted another week.

He’s in the job until Knapper starts. And I guarantee you that guy will want to feel he’s given him a chance. Wagner could well deliver our worst ever result against Ipswich. 

[S_81 797]

1 minute ago, PurpleCanary said:

There is no suggestion of that in the article.

He was involved in the talks today. He’s the new Sporting Director. Wagner remains in post. My conclusion from that is he will run his own rule over the situ once in post. Wagner is here for weeks yet if so 

[canarybubbles 1,915]

If this discussion happened after Sunderland, why have they only released information about it now? It couldn't possibly be that they knew the Blackburn game would turn toxic, could it?

They despise us, don't they? If they could replace us with cut-outs and somehow still get our entrance money, they would. Webber and Dean Smith just didn't bother to hide it, unlike that terribly nice Saint Delia, that loving, caring, pseudo-socialist. Fake as a nine-bob note, as we used to say once upon a time.

[Commonsense 624]

26 minutes ago, Virtual reality said:

I believe he always has one year on his contract so it will cost the same whenever we sack him. 

How dare you  ? Posting facts on here and spoiling the incessant ranting of certain posters!

[TIL 1010 4,748]

I expect Danny Batth will be asking if it will be worth getting on the team bus for Cardiff.

Edited November 6, 2023 by TIL 1010

[Midlands Yellow 3,986]

1 minute ago, Commonsense said:

How dare you  ? Posting facts on here and spoiling the incessant ranting of certain posters!

Nothing to rant about is there! Everything is just great. 

[nutty nigel 7,537]

7 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

I think we sorted this on another thread somewhere, not sure where though.

The 12-month rolling deal is essentially a 12-month contract with extras. It rolls onto a new 12 months or terminates on completion, so Wagner essentially only has a contract til January at this time 

Thanks, I thought it always had 12 months to run. But whatever it is I believe there will be accountability clauses that roll over with it. 

[S_81 797]

11 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

I think we sorted this on another thread somewhere, not sure where though.

The 12-month rolling deal is essentially a 12-month contract with extras. It rolls onto a new 12 months or terminates on completion, so Wagner essentially only has a contract til January at this time 

The tight ba5tad owners are letting the guy drag us downwards rather than pay out a few months. They’ll happily accept a loss at Portman Road therefore. But the fans see through it - and should know who to blame. 
 

[mannings bandy legs 388]

11 minutes ago, splutcho said:

I would love to have a 5 minute conversation with the board right now. They have just guaranteed another loss on Saturday like they guaranteed one yesterday by not sacking him last week. They are tossing away time and points for no reason. Is it stubbornness? Idiocy? 

 

I'm raging.

Its called could'nt carelessness. There,just invented a word. The cook always says she loves our fans.If you love someone,set them free!!

[Commonsense 624]

9 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

We have done for quite a while, it’s a complete farce. No way would Delia and the gang get away with it at most other clubs. 

2 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said:

Nothing to rant about is there! Everything is just great. 

How would you know. Sat in the Midlands, never venturing to Carrow Road?

[Midlands Yellow 3,986]

Just now, Commonsense said:

 

Silly man, I was there in September. 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

I do love a Brian Rix Whitehall farce by the Carrow Road Thespians.

[The Dog 16]

I fear it is because we can’t afford the pay off for the whole backroom staff, who all need to be cleared out not just Wagner.  They are all culpable for the inept tactics we repeatedly try and use each week. 
The cost of getting rid of the whole Huddersfield gang will be a big figure and it’s clear to see from the accounts we haven’t got any money. 

Any self respecting manager would not want Hughes and co to be forced upon them as their backroom staff.

Edited November 6, 2023 by The Dog

[Channon’s Windmill 326]

Wow, this clubs decision making is as slow and cumbersome as ….our usual CBs. By the time we actually make a positive decision we will be below Rotherham.