And now Nigel Pearsons been sacked

[cambridgeshire canary 7,805]

Ainsworth and now Pearson.. Seems all the club are happy to sack but us!

 

Edited October 29, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary

[The Real Buh 3,765]

We are as a club crippled by mediocre management and leadership at all levels.

We’re run by a by a bunch failures.

Edited October 29, 2023 by The Real Buh

[Feedthewolf 5,885]

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,830]

5 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

Clubs a shambles, can't even get the correct badge on our own corner flags these days! 🤷

[Feedthewolf 5,885]

8 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Clubs a shambles, can't even get the correct badge on our own corner flags these days! 🤷

I did try to find an image with the new crest on the corner flag, but no dice... 😉

[MORDENCANARY 71]

Yet Bristol City have no parachute payments and are above City in the League.The club is sleepwalking into League One

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[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

A place and a point above us...but sufficiently low enough for their board to feel they have to act.

Looks as though once again it will fall upon the fans to make it turn nasty to force ours to act

[Commonsense 802]

1 hour ago, The Real Buh said:

We are as a club crippled by mediocre management and leadership at all levels.

We’re run by a by a bunch failures.

Yes just look at how successful Bristol city have been over the last 5 years compared to us! They’ve clearly been ahead in all departments as demonstrated by their results and league positions!

[The Real Buh 3,765]

5 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

Yes just look at how successful Bristol city have been over the last 5 years compared to us! They’ve clearly been ahead in all departments as demonstrated by their results and league positions!

This isn’t to do with Bristol City specifically it’s about other teams ability to make decisions.

We are crippled in our leadership team. Nothing can or will be done with the absolute failures at the top of the club.

[Commonsense 802]

22 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

This isn’t to do with Bristol City specifically it’s about other teams ability to make decisions.

We are crippled in our leadership team. Nothing can or will be done with the absolute failures at the top of the club.

Wagner has been in charge for well under a year. Dean Smith, who was worse, lasted just over a year. Should we embark on a continuous race to emulate Watford and replace the manager every few months.

As to your point about other teams ability to make decisions, I suggest you look at the Bristol City forum. Their fans are furious about the sacking and very angry at the owner. It’s a decision that most clearly did not want.

[The Real Buh 3,765]

1 minute ago, Commonsense said:

Wagner has been in charge for well under a year. Dean Smith, who was worse, lasted just over a year. Should we embark on a continuous race to emulate Watford and replace the manager every few months.

As to your point about other teams ability to make decisions, I suggest you look at the Bristol City forum. Their fans are furious about the sacking and very angry at the owner. It’s a decision that most clearly did not want.

With the ownership and leadership team we have it doesn’t matter who we appoint as football manager. 

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

11 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

Wagner has been in charge for well under a year. Dean Smith, who was worse, lasted just over a year. Should we embark on a continuous race to emulate Watford and replace the manager every few months.

As to your point about other teams ability to make decisions, I suggest you look at the Bristol City forum. Their fans are furious about the sacking and very angry at the owner. It’s a decision that most clearly did not want.

Maybe getting the right coach would help the situation. Not one who has just been sacked. Lambert, Neil, Farke all came from potential success not defeat.

[Indy 3,477]

2 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Maybe getting the right coach would help the situation. Not one who has just been sacked. Lambert, Neil, Farke all came from potential success not defeat.

That’s a great point! 

[makham 82]

3 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Ainsworth and now Pearson.. Seems all the club are happy to sack but us!

 

Maybe we've just been waiting to see if either Gareth or Nigel became available. Might see some swift action now with no compo to pay to get either in. 🤔 

[Yellow Green Army 248]

Hope not! Rather stick with Wagner 

[Commonsense 802]

3 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Ainsworth and now Pearson.. Seems all the club are happy to sack but us!

 

Even for you calling 2 clubs in a24 team league all of them is stretching it. Especially as at one of the clubs the fans are unhappy with the sacking!

[Monty13 2,738]

1 hour ago, Commonsense said:

Wagner has been in charge for well under a year. Dean Smith, who was worse, lasted just over a year. Should we embark on a continuous race to emulate Watford and replace the manager every few months.

As to your point about other teams ability to make decisions, I suggest you look at the Bristol City forum. Their fans are furious about the sacking and very angry at the owner. It’s a decision that most clearly did not want.

It isn’t about the time they’ve had it’s what they’ve done with it. 

[Ernie Wise 112]

3 hours ago, MORDENCANARY said:

Yet Bristol City have no parachute payments and are above City in the League.The club is sleepwalking into League One

They ought to be! They have been bankrolled by Steve Lansdown one of the founders of Hargreaves Lansdown. He is a billionaire who has paid for the major renovations to Ashton Gate and has put substantial amounts into the playing budget. 

[Google Bot 3,937]

Give it a few more weeks and you may be able to add Rooney.

[The Bristol Nest 598]

Lansdown loves his rugby. Pearson identified what a mess they were in when he arrived at Bristol City and reorganised the club top to bottom. More of a manager than a coach. I am surprised by the decision but they are an entitled club. 

[By Hook or Ian crook 943]

Wagners done it’s just a matter of when not if. Once the fan base turns there is no coming back. 

[hogesar 10,779]

Whilst in my opinion it's probably the wrong decision, there seems to be a common consensus that not sacking Wagner = not making a decision. That's not true, it's still a decision. If anything, it's the "braver" one because sacking him is the easy approach in terms of keeping fans happy. I might not agree with it, but it's still a decision.

[Walcombe canary 82]

Definitely Brave not to sack Wagner - Especially if it all goes wrong on Sunday

And, plenty of Bristol City supporters here in Somerset. Yet to meet one that is happy with Nigel Pearson's sacking.

[Davidlingfield 72]

There is one simple reason why we won’t sack Wagner - we can’t afford to.

He is on a rolling 12 month contract so we can’t pay his settlement in one chunk.

[Mike w 50]

too scared to bite the bullet

[hogesar 10,779]

28 minutes ago, Davidlingfield said:

There is one simple reason why we won’t sack Wagner - we can’t afford to.

He is on a rolling 12 month contract so we can’t pay his settlement in one chunk.

Absolute rubbish just like it was when everyone said the same thing about Smith, and Farke, and Neil. It's always been a select few decide we can't afford it when we demonstrably can.

[stratton canary 164]

8 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Absolute rubbish just like it was when everyone said the same thing about Smith, and Farke, and Neil. It's always been a select few decide we can't afford it when we demonstrably can.

So true fella 👍 

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

43 minutes ago, Davidlingfield said:

There is one simple reason why we won’t sack Wagner - we can’t afford to.

He is on a rolling 12 month contract so we can’t pay his settlement in one chunk.

Which runs out in January. Sometimes you cannot afford not to sack a coach.

[Davidlingfield 72]

1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said:

Which runs out in January. Sometimes you cannot afford not to sack a coach.

It’s a rolling contract - it’s always a 12 month pay off, regardless of when he is sacked.

[Google Bot 3,937]

As I see it, Webber has to redefine what he expects from Wagner if we want to see a change.

People need to remember that the head coach is operating to an agreed model with the players available, he's not a manager but rather it's a job role.  Therefore, if Webber (Or whoever is making decisions) was to change that model it's then up to Wagner to decide if he's willing to implement it.   

If he's not willing to implement it, then his employment at this club comes down to the legalities and contract obligations on whether he can walk and get compensated, or has to be dismissed.

I don't see anyone at this club willing the head coach to deviate from the agreed plan for short-term results, and at that point how can you justify sacking the guy who's starved of the right players?   

The only way he goes is with fan fall-out and his job becomes untenable, and although most people are of the 'anything is better than this' mentality, they need to really think things through on a longer term basis.

The reactive part of me wants him gone as finding the current period hard to take and just want some relief, but i'm also understanding if we want to dig in and wait for players to return.  Ripping up the pages again, could send us further backwards and drop players moral furhter.