By Hook or Ian crook 917 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Dean Coneys boots said: We given the ball away Soooo cheaply What’s a ball? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 625 Posted October 28, 2023 As things stand we're 17th. Fortunately the bottom three already look cut adrift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike w 46 Posted October 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: We have too many players of L1 quality and it shows - decline of the quality in squad is huge over last three years. We are just not that good League 1, you having a laugh, more like National League and I am provbably doing them an injustice (NL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,469 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Of all the games to gjve Fisher his full league debut...put him up against the best winger in the league ..and leagues top scorer. Beggars belief He's doing okay. On Stacey's last couple of performances it's probably not a bad choice from Wagner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,821 Posted October 28, 2023 Fisher loves a slide tackle don't he? Red card waiting to happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,649 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, ZLF said: Those last 11 games last season were meant to be down to naivety and poor players. Well kenny and Gibson are back, boosted by the experience of forshaw duffy and stacey, yet the same fundamental problems are here this season as last.  Heads dropping, poor effort, ineffective midfield and defence. Wagner has had his squad changes and ignored the need to dominate the middle of the park.   We were sh!t then amd are now but worse we have a slow aging squad.  Time to change  As harsh as this sounds... I don't think Gibson is a linchpin player. He has his good games and he can pass, but I've never been entirely convinced since we were promoted to the premier league. As for the age... last season we deffo had too young a squad with the majority of players 24 and under, which is outside of the peak for footballers, or 30+. I think we only had two-three players between those age brackets and one of those was Gunn. We needed more players 25/26-31 and we have them. The issue now is more that we are playing with our 3rd and 4th choice strikers and arguably our 3rd choice CB in Gibson every week. The quality of our squad was always going to drop, but you have to inject enthusiasm into that squad with either a manager that can galvanise the players or new players who bring that attitude to the squad, or, BOTH. Barnes clearly is a big influence on the pitch and that is exactly the sort of player we need more of. Wagner's contract is up at the end of the season isn't it? If that's the case he wouldn't be too expensive to dispatch and at this point I can see it happening because again, you can't change the players at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,406 Posted October 28, 2023 There is a LOT that beggars belief - playing forshaw as box to box and Kenny deep- not changing CB- leaving Stacey out- persisting with tactics that haven’t worked since sarge was injured- refusing to play Baath- selling omo. He has to go now surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted October 28, 2023 Don't know why I have this on a large screen. You only need half a screen at the moment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbrenn 61 Posted October 28, 2023 No one asking for stream this week!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 873 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Dean Coneys boots said: There is a LOT that beggars belief - playing forshaw as box to box and Kenny deep- not changing CB- leaving Stacey out- persisting with tactics that haven’t worked since sarge was injured- refusing to play Baath- selling omo. He has to go now surely? Nope. He’s here for a while yet. Sadly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,821 Posted October 28, 2023 Why are the players just slowly jogging around? Dont think any of them have even tried running yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,512 Posted October 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Disappointed with Forshaw today but notable that he’s playing the box to box role and Kenny is sitting deep which is bizarre tactics again.  Not watching. Seriously? That is really weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy 123 Posted October 28, 2023 Sunderland have two very good wingers so Norwich give them the freedom of Roker park to receive the ball. Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 644 Posted October 28, 2023 Binners winning AGAIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRB2 34 Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Why are the players just slowly jogging around? Dont think any of them have even tried running yet lost the dressing room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Hook or Ian crook 917 Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: He's doing okay. On Stacey's last couple of performances it's probably not a bad choice from Wagner. Jack Clarke is Sunderland’s best player. Probably not the ideal game to be thrown into. Certainly not an easy introduction to this level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7HAR1980 110 Posted October 28, 2023 Someone please wake up McLean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,704 Posted October 28, 2023 Binners ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 635 Posted October 28, 2023 A lot of people like to say the players aren't good enough and that may be true but do you really believe this is all a coach can get out of them? They've been sent out there today with pretty much no game plan other than to sit deep. Our build up play at the start of the year was good, the players could do it then. As soon as teams figured out how to stop us though we've shown no signs of adaptation, that to me is a failure of coaching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike w 46 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, cambridgeshire canary said: Why are the players just slowly jogging around? Dont think any of them have even tried running yet Its in Wagner DNA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 873 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, CANARYKING said: Binners winning AGAIN Going up, sadly. And it’s going to be painful in December unless something changes for us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 873 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, 7HAR1980 said: Someone please wake up McLean Has stopped playing since the window closed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,284 Posted October 28, 2023 This is really poor. We don't even bother to press. Give the  ball away so easy.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 439 Posted October 28, 2023 There cannot possibly be three worse teams in this division than this useless shower? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7HAR1980 110 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, S_81 said: Has stopped playing since the window closed And got his new contract. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
overthebordercanary 142 Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, CANARYKING said: Binners winning AGAIN Yet hogesar, branston pickle, terminally yellow etc will say we still won't lose to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 873 Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Why are the players just slowly jogging around? Dont think any of them have even tried running yet It’s called Wagnerball apparently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 320 Posted October 28, 2023 Why is it going to be comfortable jn Nov then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 873 Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, unique said: There cannot possibly be three worse teams in this division than this useless shower? There are at this point. But give it a few weeks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,284 Posted October 28, 2023 Red card soon I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
