cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted October 22, 2023 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted October 22, 2023 He’s as much to blame as the rest! Too old too slow! Should have kept Omobamdele. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samwam27 606 Posted October 22, 2023 Its hardly an inspirational statement from.someone whos just scored an own goal. Thats 2 in 2 games now and thats the sort of cr*p we're all fed up with. We're in desperate need to break up the Duffy n Gibson partnership and try something different, but it worries me Wagner cant see that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coneys Knee 1,049 Posted October 22, 2023 I like Duffy but the Gibson/duffy pairing is a liability. Duffy/Batth plus a youngster with pace is the way to go for me. Farm out Gibson in January, promote Warner into the first team reckoning and then find the best combination. From the little I saw of him at Fulham, under the guidance of an experienced head, Warner really could be our next Max Aaron’s full debut from nowhere moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,150 Posted October 22, 2023 Warner did look capable enough at Fulham - we are definitely leaking goals too frequently so something needs to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Branston Pickle said: Warner did look capable enough at Fulham - we are definitely leaking goals too frequently so something needs to change. Agree, might just need that mix of experience and youth at the back like Sarge & Barnes, Hanley/Gibson have bee here long enough to see the shortcomings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 302 Posted October 22, 2023 Need to put someone like Skipp in front of the CBs, no protection other than Mclean scampering around 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,150 Posted October 22, 2023 Tbh it started well without the need for cdm - Sara and a Kenny worked well in rotation. I wonder, perhaps Barnes/Sargent being injured has enforced changes and hit us in areas we didn’t foresee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,736 Posted October 22, 2023 The way we play just give too many opportunities to the opposition, it’s suicidal. I actually personally think Duffy and Gibson are doing a decent job given the absolute lack of protection given to them by the rest of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldy09 196 Posted October 22, 2023 NEVER MIND -WAGNER PROUD ON HOW CITY PLAYED- its only going to get better -top 6 by christmas 😚 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,764 Posted October 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Monty13 said: The way we play just give too many opportunities to the opposition, it’s suicidal. I actually personally think Duffy and Gibson are doing a decent job given the absolute lack of protection given to them by the rest of the team. I think you're right. We seem to average giving teams 20 shots a game. Even if that's outside the area and half chances, it gives hope and momentum to the opposition. Duffy has made a few too many mistakes directly leading to goals for me, but he's been good in some games. I dont think Gibson has done much wrong this season, but he's one that's going to get blame regardless because fans refuse to base opinions on what they actually see now rather than what they've seen before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 452 Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Samwam27 said: Its hardly an inspirational statement from.someone whos just scored an own goal. Thats 2 in 2 games now and thats the sort of cr*p we're all fed up with. We're in desperate need to break up the Duffy n Gibson partnership and try something different, but it worries me Wagner cant see that Looking back at the og for me the blame lies totally with Long. Keepers should not be beaten at the near post like that. On the Duffy/ Gibson partnership clearly Wagner doesn't rate Batth? Come to that where's Warner? A decent game at Fulham not seen since 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyc24_uk 79 Posted October 22, 2023 Problem is, Duffy seems to offer more and I'd say is definitely the better of our two central defenders but seems to always make at least one glaring mistake per game. 90% good defender, 10% catastrophe. He's got to cut those out and maybe needs some specific coaching on keeping his focus on the game and positioning himself better. Gibson makes fewer obviously horrendous mistakes but is just generally cr@p throughout and offers very little. In terms of overspending on a poor player, he's got to be one of the worst signings of the Webber era - Yes the likes of Tzolis didn't work out but he had a lot of potential; Rashica had a decent reputation and looked like a good buy before he decided he didn't care; Gibson we basically knew exactly what we were getting - someone who was barely good enough to sit on Burnley's bench, and that's exactly what we paid £8m for! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 2,199 Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Don’t be Krul said: Looking back at the og for me the blame lies totally with Long. Keepers should not be beaten at the near post like that. On the Duffy/ Gibson partnership clearly Wagner doesn't rate Batth? Come to that where's Warner? A decent game at Fulham not seen since It's interesting that no one has commented on Long. I agree with you - that first goal (which was so important in giving the Leeds players hope) was largely down to him IMO. I thought we had signed an up-and-coming young Chilean goalie? And we've hardly been short of plenty of our own promising youngsters between the sticks. So why has this guy who the Millwall fans warned us about ended up our number two? Because he's old, and nowadays we seem to think old equals good? Judging by that goal yesterday, McGovern was better, and he was our number three. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 4,272 Posted October 22, 2023 I genuinely can't believe after his performance at Fulham that we haven't even seen Warner on the bench since. It's just awful management Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: It's interesting that no one has commented on Long. I agree with you - that first goal (which was so important in giving the Leeds players hope) was largely down to him IMO. I thought we had signed an up-and-coming young Chilean goalie? And we've hardly been short of plenty of our own promising youngsters between the sticks. So why has this guy who the Millwall fans warned us about ended up our number two? Because he's old, and nowadays we seem to think old equals good? Judging by that goal yesterday, McGovern was better, and he was our number three. The fact that Millwall fans were celebrating him being sold says it all. If I didnt know better I would say Webber bought him knowing he was bad as a way get revenge before he leaves us.. Edited October 22, 2023 by cambridgeshire canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted October 22, 2023 Long was poor yesterday I thought. I fear for us if he is in for a while. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,174 Posted October 23, 2023 18 hours ago, hogesar said: I think you're right. We seem to average giving teams 20 shots a game. Even if that's outside the area and half chances, it gives hope and momentum to the opposition. Duffy has made a few too many mistakes directly leading to goals for me, but he's been good in some games. I dont think Gibson has done much wrong this season, but he's one that's going to get blame regardless because fans refuse to base opinions on what they actually see now rather than what they've seen before. Warner played well At fulham i know one game but against better strikers he will face most weeks in champs , he also has Energy and pace ,slot him alongside Gibson , the only problem is that big hole in front of them which every team knows now a CDM who sticks to his task would make a whole world of difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted October 24, 2023 Yeah about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,239 Posted October 24, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 19:11, cambridgeshire canary said: If I didnt know better I would say Webber bought him knowing he was bad as a way get revenge before he leaves us.. Probably your most stupid post ever. Which, is quite an achievement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7HAR1980 137 Posted October 25, 2023 On 23/10/2023 at 00:19, hogesar said: I think you're right. We seem to average giving teams 20 shots a game. Even if that's outside the area and half chances, it gives hope and momentum to the opposition. Duffy has made a few too many mistakes directly leading to goals for me, but he's been good in some games. I dont think Gibson has done much wrong this season, but he's one that's going to get blame regardless because fans refuse to base opinions on what they actually see now rather than what they've seen before. So if you were to base your opinion on what you are seeing now compared to what you've seen before, what's your opinion of Kenny McLean now? Bearing in mind, we seem to average giving teams 20 shots a game including (but not solely) shots outside the box? Both our centre back pairing have the tendency for making awful mistakes potentially leading to chances. This gives no one any confidence whatsoever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,798 Posted October 28, 2023 Oh dear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7HAR1980 137 Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Oh dear Notice I was totally ignored by Hoggy too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Jedi 610 Posted October 28, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 15:19, cambridgeshire canary said: Was he talking about his own goals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,359 Posted October 28, 2023 He's scored more than Hwang to be fair, he's trying to do his bit! 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Jedi 610 Posted October 28, 2023 He’s setup a penalty now, nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FCC 94 Posted October 28, 2023 Does his talking on the pitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted October 28, 2023 Can’t remember a defensive performance as bad as that in many a year- he was hopeless today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: Can’t remember a defensive performance as bad as that in many a year- he was hopeless today It doesn't help the manager's cause when Forshaw and Duffy, players who he wanted in and selected, put in the most dreaful performances for many a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 302 Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said: It doesn't help the manager's cause when Forshaw and Duffy, players who he wanted in and selected, put in the most dreaful performances for many a season. Both were shocking today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites