Worthy Nigelton 1,080 Posted November 12, 2021 Shambles of a PL season twice now. Sacked a manager he should have backed. Signed crap players. Now humiliatingly getting turned down by an unemployed manager half the fan base didnt want anyway. What a clown. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) *according to the representatives of Frank Lampard, as reported through Sky Sports News. What could possibly be wrong here. Edited November 12, 2021 by 1902 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said: Shambles of a PL season twice now. Sacked a manager he should have backed. Signed crap players. Now humiliatingly getting turned down by an unemployed manager half the fan base didnt want anyway. What a clown. How do you know it’s not us that made the decision? My feeling was that Lampard had a change of heart the very moment the Rangers job came available on Wednesday. A safe appointment for him to build his reputation and a 50% starting chance of winning the league with a couple of European games to boot too. Was 10/1 overnight, is now the second favourite. Took the 10/1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danbury Yellow 126 Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Of the country? Edited November 12, 2021 by Danbury Yellow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,485 Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: How do you know it’s not us that made the decision?   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 124 Posted November 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: How do you know it’s not us that made the decision? My feeling was that Lampard had a change of heart the very moment the Rangers job came available on Wednesday. A safe appointment for him to build his reputation and a 50% starting chance of winning the league with a couple of European games to boot too. Was 10/1 overnight, is now the second favourite. Took the 10/1. Great bet Alex. Got a strong feeling be could end up there as well. Makes more sense for him. Gerrard has grown a very strong reputation from his time there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,155 Posted November 12, 2021 If he'd rather manage a club with Championship level players and play against teams who would struggle to stay in L1 every week then I think that shows how confident he is in his abilities. I didn't want him from the start, but I think he'd be better off at rangers where he only has to manage about 10 real, competitive games a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: Â Â Possibly because Lampard asked for assurances, resources or conditions that we weren't prepared to give. We don't know if we made an offer, and we don't know if that offer was a "take it or leave it" from us because we have other irons in the fire. Also where did those big-hitters get their news from? Probably the same source. Why call something a shambles until you know the full story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,365 Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) The chances are that SW is a ruthless b*stard and not very nice bloke but to be fair to him he's getting all this flak about our failure to land these ' names ' when there's not a shred of evidence that any of them were seriously considered in the first place. All this talk of FL turning us down when the truth may well be he was never offered the job at all. The media are implying that he turned down an offer. I'll bet there was never an offer to turn down. We're more likely to end up with someone from an obscure Scandinavian league who we've never heard of before. Edited November 12, 2021 by ......and Smith must score. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnDaBall 137 Posted November 12, 2021 I think this is all a work of genius by Webber. Lampard was clearly a smoke screen to keep other clubs from our true target. Either that or Delia just wanted to meet Frankie in person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivvo 257 Posted November 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, 1902 said: Possibly because Lampard asked for assurances, resources or conditions that we weren't prepared to give. We don't know if we made an offer, and we don't know if that offer was a "take it or leave it" from us because we have other irons in the fire. Also where did those big-hitters get their news from? Probably the same source. Why call something a shambles until you know the full story? Jeez mate, I thought you’d been on this forum for long enough to know this 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 12, 2021 Just now, Rivvo said: Jeez mate, I thought you’d been on this forum for long enough to know this 🤣 Sorry, momentarily forgot where I was. Should probably get that checked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,952 Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, OnDaBall said: I think this is all a work of genius by Webber. Lampard was clearly a smoke screen to keep other clubs from our true target. Either that or Delia just wanted to meet Frankie in person. Or Frankie wanted to nibble her croutons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: Or Frankie wanted to nibble her croutons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,573 Posted November 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, 1902 said: Sorry, momentarily forgot where I was. Should probably get that checked out. If it's any consolation, Norwich Twitter is even worse at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Robert N. LiM said: If it's any consolation, Norwich Twitter is even worse at the moment. Rather you than me mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,573 Posted November 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, 1902 said: Rather you than me mate. Had a brief look but headed very swiftly back to the shores of reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canaries north 151 Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, 1902 said: Possibly because Lampard asked for assurances, resources or conditions that we weren't prepared to give. We don't know if we made an offer, and we don't know if that offer was a "take it or leave it" from us because we have other irons in the fire. Also where did those big-hitters get their news from? Probably the same source. Why call something a shambles until you know the full story? The shambles for me is that we sacked a manager without someone ready to walk in the door. If you don't have a manager ready to walk in the door how do you know the manager you can get is better than the one leaving. Don't get me wrong I believe Farke had to go but how can we not have someone ready to take over. We had to know this was coming either after Chelsea or at least Leeds. We should have been in position to announce a new manager 24 hours after Farke was removed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 12, 2021 43 minutes ago, Canaries north said: The shambles for me is that we sacked a manager without someone ready to walk in the door. If you don't have a manager ready to walk in the door how do you know the manager you can get is better than the one leaving. Don't get me wrong I believe Farke had to go but how can we not have someone ready to take over. We had to know this was coming either after Chelsea or at least Leeds. We should have been in position to announce a new manager 24 hours after Farke was removed. So, your suggestion is that we started interviewing before we had fired Farke and tried to keep it under wraps? Given the structure of the club it's clearly not a standard managerial position, so we were always going to have to have a selection process in place which would take time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, OnDaBall said: I think this is all a work of genius by Webber. Lampard was clearly a smoke screen to keep other clubs from our true target. Either that or Delia just wanted to meet Frankie in person. Just a PR exercise to make it look like we explored the expensive options before appointing Russell Martin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 399 Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alex Moss said: How do you know it’s not us that made the decision? My feeling was that Lampard had a change of heart the very moment the Rangers job came available on Wednesday. A safe appointment for him to build his reputation and a 50% starting chance of winning the league with a couple of European games to boot too. Was 10/1 overnight, is now the second favourite. Took the 10/1. Completely agree with this and hope you lumped on at 10/1. He's 10/3 now Edited November 12, 2021 by Don’t be Krul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 656 Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said: Shambles of a PL season twice now. Sacked a manager he should have backed. Signed crap players. Now humiliatingly getting turned down by an unemployed manager half the fan base didnt want anyway. What a clown. I think you need to think carefully. I’m pleased that Lampard wasn’t a shoe in as he clearly thought he would be. It will take time to weigh up the candidates properly. Due diligence is important here. I personally would have kept Farke, but it’s very much a case of damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. What we need is a manager who believes in Norwich, not one who sees us as a way back onto the managerial Merry-go-round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damn that Ralph Coates! 47 Posted November 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Don’t be Krul said: Completely agree with this and hope you lumped on at 10/1. He's 10/3 now yes i agree too. Rangers job vacated because Villa acted, and that is FL safer bet. Not Webber's fault it all went Pete Tong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,080 Posted November 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Commonsense said: I think you need to think carefully. I’m pleased that Lampard wasn’t a shoe in as he clearly thought he would be. It will take time to weigh up the candidates properly. Due diligence is important here. I personally would have kept Farke, but it’s very much a case of damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. What we need is a manager who believes in Norwich, not one who sees us as a way back onto the managerial Merry-go-round. My point isnt about Lampard's suitability more Webber's incompetence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Don’t be Krul said: Completely agree with this and hope you lumped on at 10/1. He's 10/3 now Just a fiver, Krully! But the timeline all adds up for me, that job just screams Lampard I feel and I reckon he’s seen that as a safe and attractive option! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danke bitte 967 Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Robert N. LiM said: Had a brief look but headed very swiftly back to the shores of reason. Where Lakey holds court…😊 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Fred 526 Posted November 12, 2021 The Villa sporting director made it look easy why can’t we have him as our sporting director Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,300 Posted November 12, 2021 I'm hoping Webber will pull a rabbit out of the 'Favre 'hat yet. But if he doesn't then I can see another change on the horizon. You only had to look at the faces of Smith and the BOD at the Brentford match to see what they thought of sacking Farke. This won't go down well. Hopefully a quality appointment very early next week. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,003 Posted November 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said: Shambles of a PL season twice now. Sacked a manager he should have backed. Signed crap players. Now humiliatingly getting turned down by an unemployed manager half the fan base didnt want anyway. What a clown. That is certainly how I see it, and surprised it has taken this long for anyone to start a 'Webber out' thread - must admit I nearly did as soon as I heard that Lampard & Smith were being talked to. Of course, there is probably a lot going on that we know nothing about but everything we do know so far indicates that its a complete bl**dy shambles and a series of very poor judgements by Webber. The sooner Webber goes the better IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,605 Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Just a PR exercise to make it look like we explored the expensive options before appointing Russell Martin. Oh dear. Someone's unhappy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites