Coneys Knee 953 Posted October 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: I remember people saying Tettey's legs were suspect. About 5 years ago. It's just an excuse to justify his exclusion when you can't rely on anything else. Exactly this. There is absolutely nothing to suggest his “legs have gone”. Mario plays the game with his brain in any case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted October 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, king canary said: Top of the thread should be Farke. Without Mario this lat week we're 15th and I think people might be asking some questions. Then all credit to Farke for his game management. Converted 2 draws into 2 wins with his substitutions 👍 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted October 24, 2020 Dug us out again! Absolute wand of a left foot on him, surely a candidate to start in the number 10 role behind Pukki who is now back amongst the goals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted October 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, ricardo said: I happy to admit that Farke knows his players capabilities a bit better than me. You were probably happy to admit the same of Neil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyboybunters 26 Posted October 24, 2020 Not many better free kick takers at the club over the last 30 years in my opinion 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) As Adrian Coote said on Canary Call, If you start Vrancic, are you going to get a full, impactive, 90 minutes out of him, or would you feel he would be subbed off at 60-70 mins? He has the right attributes to hurt tiring teams in the last quarter Edited October 24, 2020 by Crabbycanary3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said: My sister wants his babies. Well she can get in the f*cking queue behind me now. I want to see the dream team in central mid - Tettey and Vrancic. That's a quality man sandwich. OTBC Here you go Disco.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabbycanary3 said: As Adrian Coote said on Canary Call, If you start Vrancic, are you going to get a full, impactive, 90 minutes out of him, or would you feel he would be subbed off at 60-70 mins? He has the right attributes to hurt tiring teams in the last quarter ****. That free kick didn't go in because the opposition was tired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: ****. That free kick didn't go in because the opposition was tired. Err no, but that wasn't the point. This isn't American Football, where you bring a kicker on either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooty57 403 Posted October 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: ****. That free kick didn't go in because the opposition was tired. Maybe not, but it's far easier to draw a tired player into giving away a free kick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, sonyc said: Here you go Disco.... Haha! Cheers Sonyc! OTBC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, sonyc said: Well....he was a massive part in us winning us promotion, got the goal to win the title and in a week he alone has won us 6 points! Great player - have been boring my son every week telling him (in detaii😀) why Vrancic should be starting, likewise Tettey. Both Skipp and Rupp have shown some positives this season but IMO there is no doubt at all that Vrancic and Tettey are part of our strongest 11. At the start of the season I would have said Emi was as well, but at the moment I think you've got to question why he is starting when Vrancic has delivered more in a few late substitute appearances than Emi has in 4 starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted October 24, 2020 If you don't get a Vrancic on the pitch from the start he can't score after 4 minutes like he did away at Leeds. Class free kick players change games and it's not as if he is just a free kick specialist, he scores with left or right from virtually anywhere around or in the penalty area, plus his range of passing is inspirational. You get games where he might not do so well, but that is true of any player. I know judging players' contributions is mostly worked out by looking at "stats" these days, but sometimes stats don't give you the whole picture. Those many points he won us two seasons ago were not just from the bench, he can produce something from nothing at any time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, lake district canary said: If you don't get a Vrancic on the pitch from the start he can't score after 4 minutes like he did away at Leeds. Class free kick players change games and it's not as if he is just a free kick specialist, he scores with left or right from virtually anywhere around or in the penalty area, plus his range of passing is inspirational. You get games where he might not do so well, but that is true of any player. I know judging players' contributions is mostly worked out by looking at "stats" these days, but sometimes stats don't give you the whole picture. Those many points he won us two seasons ago were not just from the bench, he can produce something from nothing at any time. That was 2 years ago Lakey. 2 years is a long time in football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted October 24, 2020 Not for me - happy with him doing 20-minute cameos. He’s not a starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boris 56 Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, city4eva said: Was a fantastic free kick, but Looked like he dived to win it with VAR today was totally different game ! So many incidents can be decided different also pure dive by Mario and also back ball few yards back from foul spot. Smart player and finally back to normal service since PL nightmare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabbycanary3 said: As Adrian Coote said on Canary Call, If you start Vrancic, are you going to get a full, impactive, 90 minutes out of him, or would you feel he would be subbed off at 60-70 mins? He has the right attributes to hurt tiring teams in the last quarter I'd be perfectly happy for him to be subbed at 60-70 mins after he has won the game for us - far less stressful than watching 80 minutes of us struggling before we ask him to pull another iron out of the fire 🙄 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,657 Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Boris said: with VAR today was totally different game ! So many incidents can be decided different also pure dive by Mario and also back ball few yards back from foul spot. Smart player and finally back to normal service since PL nightmare. I don’t see what var would have changed - never enough in it for the penalty to be overruled and given, and it wouldn’t have changed a f/k situation. It doesn’t look at yellow cards so Gibson’s for a perfectly reasonable tackle would have remained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Midlands Yellow said: I’d gel his hair and polish his boots for free tonight. That sounds like a very dodgy euphemism. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Coneys Knee said: Mario will leave this club with cult hero status I reckon He's had cult status in this house since I first saw him play , he's all ability, no pace , no strength , just pure skill and vision. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted October 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: I'd be perfectly happy for him to be subbed at 60-70 mins after he has won the game for us - far less stressful than watching 80 minutes of us struggling before we ask him to pull another iron out of the fire 🙄 What Coote was referring to was in the first quarter of a game, teams are tighter and are 'looser' in the last quarter. He is not head and shoulders above all are other players that he can influence a game for 90 minutes, otherwise he wouldn't be here 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Carrow 376 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabbycanary3 said: As Adrian Coote said on Canary Call, If you start Vrancic, are you going to get a full, impactive, 90 minutes out of him, or would you feel he would be subbed off at 60-70 mins? He has the right attributes to hurt tiring teams in the last quarter Whoa whoa. Three wins on the spin and you're trying to take people's only reason to moan away?! Shame on you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted October 24, 2020 Well we can not keep waiting for the last minute for Vrancic to save us so we need him to start or the other players to create / score in the 90 mins so for me the form man starts if the others can not do what he does Vrancic has saved us twice and won us 4 pts if we had drawn them games a lot of fans would not of been happy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,783 Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: Well we can not keep waiting for the last minute for Vrancic to save us so we need him to start or the other players to create / score in the 90 mins so for me the form man starts if the others can not do what he does Vrancic has saved us twice and won us 4 pts if we had drawn them games a lot of fans would not of been happy My real concern is Emi's lack of goals, fluffing a golden chance today again although he did set up Pukki. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted October 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Crabbycanary3 said: What Coote was referring to was in the first quarter of a game, teams are tighter and are 'looser' in the last quarter. He is not head and shoulders above all are other players that he can influence a game for 90 minutes, otherwise he wouldn't be here I know what Coote was referring to and IMO it is completely irrelevant - what Vrancic brings to the team is fantastic creative passing and terrific dead ball skills. Both of these things are important in all phases of the game, not just the last ten minutes, and both are things which have been largely absent in our starting line ups this season (and many of last season's for that matter). Clearly at the moment he is head and shoulders above the rest of our midfield - that will hopefully not always be the case but until Emi finds his form of 2 years ago, or Todd finds his form of last year, or one of the newcomers steps up considerably then he is delivering in 10 minutes what the rest are all failing to deliver in 90 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted October 24, 2020 Team for Brentford on Tuesday seems straight forward for me now...moreso with the ban for Idah Not sure if Brentford away was the place for Pukki and Hugill anyway, but if they both started, there'd be no striker to come off the bench in the last 20 mins After his goal today, time to restore Pukki back up top.. This opens up the possibility of bringing Vrancic in without distrupting the Skipp/Rupp partnership.. Krul Aarons Hanley Gibson Quintilla Rupp Skipp Buendia Vrancic Cantwell Pukki McGovern Zimmermann Tettey McLean Steipermann Placheta Hugill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sooty57 said: Maybe not, but it's far easier to draw a tired player into giving away a free kick. Let's be honest, no one really gave away a free kick, we finally received the benefit of a ****e ref. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted October 24, 2020 We've just won 2 games by using him as sub so why change? He's started this season like he finished the season before last. If fitness is an issue it makes sense to bring him on when the opposition is tiring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabbycanary3 said: That was 2 years ago Lakey. 2 years is a long time in football. Class is permanent and he undoubtedly has that. I would play him from the start in a game and see if he can win us the game and if he tires bring on a fresh player after 60/70 minutes - we have plenty of talent on the bench. Also, good performances ought to be rewarded - and he has won us two matches now on the trot. In the normal scheme of things he would be rewarded with a start in the next match - and if you want to keep a player motivated, that is something that needs to be born in mind...unless of course Farke wants to keep him fired up by not starting him...... Whatever, I think that he should start a match now and if it goes well he stays in the team as long as we keep getting results - if he doesn't do well then fair enough put him back to the bench to be that impact player. I'd rather win games with him scoring or making the goals earlier in a match than waiting for 80 minutes for Mario time every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big O 225 Posted October 24, 2020 It was quite interesting to see Buendia go and play deep for the last 15 minutes. He is a very effective player if we get him on the ball centrally as of course is Vrancic. Cantwell also played quite well when he went for 10 and it’s a shame about Idah as he added pace and directness we lacked. Brentford are decent and play good football and we will need to be disciplined our self or we could be exposed so it’s a tough selection, I’ll be controversial but I would bring Tettey for Skipp and placheta for Hudgil and play Buendia more central. krul aarons, Hanley, Gibson, Quintilia tettey rupp, Buendia cantwell, Pukki, Placheta thoughts ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites